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A55393 Quo warranto, or, A moderate enquiry into the warrantablenesse of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons where also some other questions are discussed : viz. concerning [brace] ministerial relation, election, ordination : being a vindication of the late Jus divinum ministerii evangeliei ... from the exceptions of Mr. John Martin, Mr. Sam. Pette, Mr. Frederick Woodal ... in their late book, intituled The preacher sent / by Matthew Poole ... Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679. 1659 (1659) Wing P2850; ESTC R33938 110,108 175

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to_o understand_v it_o in_o our_o brethren_n sense_n 1._o they_o be_v say_v to_o ordain_v to_o they_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d not_o to_o themselves_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o it_o shall_v have_v be_v if_o the_o people_n have_v do_v it_o and_o although_o it_o be_v true_a that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v sometime_o take_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o that_o be_v but_o seldom_o and_o then_o also_o it_o be_v for_o the_o most_o part_n aspirate_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o the_o common_a use_n of_o the_o word_n by_o which_o our_o brethren_n will_v have_v we_o guide_v in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o therefore_o we_o expect_v the_o like_a from_o they_o in_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i_o say_v the_o common_a use_n of_o the_o word_n be_v otherwise_o and_o especial_o this_o be_v considerable_a if_o you_o take_v notice_n of_o other_o circumstance_n which_o oblige_v we_o to_o this_o sense_n as_o namely_o 2._o the_o same_o person_n be_v say_v to_o ordain_v in_o several_a city_n and_o church_n therefore_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v mean_v of_o they_o that_o have_v a_o authority_n over_o several_a church_n 3._o they_o ordain_v etc._n etc._n who_o go_v away_o commend_v the_o people_n to_o the_o lord_n and_o sure_o that_o be_v the_o apostle_n it_o be_v a_o lamentable_a shift_n to_o say_v that_o the_o disciple_n be_v speak_v of_o in_o the_o forego_n verse_n and_o therefore_o it_o may_v be_v understand_v of_o they_o true_o they_o be_v speak_v of_o and_o so_o be_v the_o apostle_n speak_v of_o and_o see_v both_o be_v speak_v of_o we_o must_v inquire_v to_o who_o this_o must_v be_v refer_v and_o for_o that_o the_o very_a first_o rudiment_n of_o grammar_n will_v determine_v that_o the_o reference_n must_v be_v towards_o of_o the_o same_o case_n now_o then_o in_o the_o 22._o verse_n the_o disciple_n be_v speak_v of_o in_o the_o accusative_a case_n and_o as_o passive_a under_o the_o apostle_n confirm_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d with_o which_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d by_o no_o mean_n agree_v as_o be_v active_a and_o of_o the_o nominative_a case_n but_o now_o if_o you_o understand_v it_o of_o the_o apostle_n all_o thing_n run_v handsome_o the_o same_o person_n be_v bring_v in_o as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d vers_fw-la 21._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v_o 22._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v_o 23._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v_o 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d v_o 25._o etc._n etc._n all_o of_o they_o of_o the_o nominative_a case_n and_o the_o active_a signification_n and_o whoever_o take_v out_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d from_o all_o the_o rest_n wherewith_o it_o be_v hedge_v in_o on_o both_o side_n as_o
do_v strong_o justify_v the_o use_n and_o necessity_n of_o ordination_n to_o other_o officer_n 2._o something_o extraordinary_a and_o peculiar_a to_o wit_n that_o the_o essence_n of_o their_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o this_o ordination_n but_o in_o the_o immediate_a appointment_n of_o god_n which_o therefore_o can_v be_v apply_v to_o ordinary_a officer_n to_o say_v nothing_o of_o that_o which_o peradventure_o may_v be_v say_v that_o paul_n have_v the_o essence_n of_o his_o call_n from_o this_o ordination_n and_o yet_o no_o prejudice_n to_o that_o other_o assertion_n that_o paul_n have_v his_o office_n neither_o of_o nor_o by_o man_n gal._n 1._o for_o though_o man_n be_v use_v as_o instrument_n in_o the_o dispensation_n of_o the_o rite_n belong_v to_o paul_n ordination_n yet_o to_o speak_v proper_o it_o be_v not_o man_n but_o god_n that_o be_v paul_n ordainer_n for_o the_o holy_a ghost_n say_v separate_v i_o etc._n etc._n it_o be_v not_o man_n that_o nominate_v paul_n to_o be_v a_o officer_n but_o god_n do_v it_o from_o heaven_n their_o three_o argument_n be_v take_v from_o the_o nature_n of_o ordination_n ordination_n say_v they_o be_v nothing_o else_o but_o the_o solemn_a separation_n of_o a_o officer_n by_o prayer_n and_o fast_v they_o after_o add_v and_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n to_o the_o work_n whereunto_o he_o be_v call_v it_o can_v be_v imagine_v to_o consist_v but_o of_o three_o thing_n 1._o fast_v and_o that_o be_v no_o act_n of_o worship_n 2._o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n and_o that_o be_v not_o essential_a to_o ordination_n then_o and_o it_o be_v questionable_a whither_o it_o be_v still_o continue_v or_o not_o 3._o prayer_n which_o therefore_o must_v be_v the_o act_n give_v essence_n to_o ordination_n see_v the_o other_o do_v not_o now_o upon_o all_o this_o they_o build_v a_o double_a argument_n 1._o ordination_n consist_v in_o a_o action_n perform_v to_o god_n only_o i._n e._n in_o prayer_n therefore_o it_o can_v give_v the_o essence_n of_o a_o external_a call_n to_o office_n from_o man_n 2._o that_o action_n which_o can_v be_v perform_v in_o faith_n before_o a_o man_n have_v his_o outward_a call_n to_o office_n can_v give_v he_o that_o outward_a call_n but_o ordination_n be_v such_o a_o action_n etc._n etc._n for_o how_o can_v a_o man_n pray_v in_o faith_n for_o his_o blessing_n upon_o a_o person_n in_o a_o work_n of_o a_o office_n before_o he_o can_v conclude_v that_o he_o be_v so_o much_o as_o outward_o call_v to_o that_o office_n for_o answer_v 1._o for_o the_o last_o clause_n i_o also_o will_v ask_v our_o brethren_n one_o question_n suppose_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o ministerial_a call_n do_v consist_v in_o election_n and_o that_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v use_v for_o the_o person_n to_o be_v elect_v before_o his_o election_n which_o i_o know_v our_o brethren_n will_v not_o diflike_a in_o this_o case_n i_o ask_v they_o their_o own_o question_n how_o can_v they_o pray_v in_o faith_n for_o a_o blessing_n upon_o that_o person_n in_o the_o work_n of_o his_o office_n before_o he_o have_v the_o call_v to_o the_o office_n whatsoever_o they_o shall_v reply_v with_o reason_n will_v serve_v for_o our_o use_n as_o well_o as_o they_o 2._o in_o such_o case_n our_o prayer_n have_v as_o most_o frequent_o in_o many_o other_o case_n a_o tacit_n condition_n that_o god_n will_v bless_v he_o in_o the_o work_n viz._n if_o he_o shall_v be_v set_v apart_o for_o it_o i_o may_v pray_v in_o faith_n that_o god_n will_v go_v with_o i_o in_o a_o journey_n that_o god_n will_v bless_v i_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o lord_n day_n etc._n etc._n although_o i_o do_v not_o certain_o know_v that_o i_o shall_v live_v either_o to_o go_v one_o step_n in_o my_o journey_n or_o to_o do_v one_o exercise_n upon_o the_o lord_n day_n 3._o all_o their_o argument_n proceed_v upon_o a_o gross_a mistake_n and_o unacquaintednesse_n with_o our_o principle_n in_o a_o word_n we_o hold_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o ordination_n consist_v in_o none_o of_o those_o three_o thing_n mention_v neither_o in_o fast_v nor_o prayer_n nor_o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n all_o which_o be_v only_o the_o modification_n of_o the_o work_n but_o in_o something_o else_o to_o wit_n in_o this_o the_o designation_n of_o fit_a person_n by_o officer_n unto_o the_o work_n which_o designation_n indeed_o be_v signify_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o deserve_o introduce_v with_o fast_v and_o prayer_n as_o be_v a_o work_n of_o great_a weight_n yet_o still_o the_o essence_n of_o it_o lie_v not_o in_o this_o 4._o for_o imposition_n of_o hand_n it_o be_v grant_v by_o most_o presbyterian_o that_o i_o know_v of_o that_o it_o be_v not_o so_o essential_a to_o ordination_n as_o that_o they_o will_v pronounce_v that_o ordination_n null_n which_o want_v it_o although_o they_o conceive_v in_o be_v a_o rite_n institute_v by_o christ_n can_v without_o sin_n be_v neglect_v by_o man_n whether_o imposition_n of_o hand_n ought_v to_o continue_v in_o the_o church_n be_v excentricall_a to_o our_o present_a question_n and_o therefore_o i_o shall_v wave_v it_o leave_v only_o this_o memorandum_n for_o the_o reader_n consideration_n that_o the_o great_a argument_n use_v for_o the_o abolition_n of_o it_o because_o it_o be_v use_v in_o those_o day_n for_o the_o collation_n of_o the_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v to_o i_o very_o little_a cogency_n in_o it_o both_o because_o by_o the_o same_o reason_n preach_v must_v be_v now_o lay_v aside_o because_o when_o peter_n preach_v the_o holy_a ghost_n fall_v upon_o they_o that_o hear_v he_o act_v 10._o 44._o and_o because_o it_o continue_v all_o along_o in_o the_o old_a testament_n notwithstanding_o this_o that_o sometime_o it_o be_v use_v in_o those_o time_n for_o the_o collation_n of_o extraordinary_a gift_n as_o deut._n 34._o 9_o and_o joshua_n be_v full_a of_o the_o spirit_n of_o wisdom_n for_o moses_n have_v lay_v his_o hand_n upon_o he_o but_o i_o must_v recall_v myself_o and_o remember_v that_o it_o be_v not_o now_o my_o task_n to_o meddle_v with_o that_o point_n but_o only_o to_o show_v that_o our_o brethren_n argument_n be_v not_o unanswerable_a and_o now_o that_o we_o have_v see_v the_o weakness_n of_o their_o argument_n allege_v to_o prove_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o ministerial_a call_n consist_v in_o election_n not_o in_o ordination_n i_o shall_v consider_v whether_o we_o can_v find_v strong_a argument_n to_o prove_v the_o contrary_a that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o the_o election_n of_o the_o people_n but_o in_o the_o ordination_n of_o the_o minister_n chap._n xiii_o i_o shall_v confine_v myself_o to_o one_o argument_n which_o i_o shall_v desire_v our_o brethren_n to_o chew_v upon_o which_o be_v this_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n must_v lie_v in_o the_o act_n of_o those_o only_a who_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o give_v it_o but_o the_o people_n neither_o be_v nor_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v necessary_o require_v to_o be_v in_o capacity_n to_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n ergo_fw-la the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_n do_v not_o lie_v in_o the_o act_n of_o the_o people_n i._n e._n not_o in_o election_n for_o the_o major_n it_o be_v a_o plain_a case_n wherever_o god_n put_v a_o man_n upon_o a_o work_n he_o require_v that_o he_o be_v fit_a for_o it_o god_n will_v have_v no_o man_n to_o undertake_v any_o work_n of_o magistracy_n ministry_n etc._n etc._n for_o which_o he_o be_v not_o fit_a the_o teacher_n must_v be_v apt_a to_o teach_v etc._n etc._n and_o if_o it_o be_v one_o of_o the_o work_n of_o a_o minister_n to_o send_v forth_o other_o minister_n than_o god_n require_v this_o of_o he_o that_o he_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o do_v it_o and_o so_o doubtless_o if_o election_n be_v the_o privilege_n of_o the_o member_n of_o the_o church_n as_o such_o and_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o ministerial_a call_n lie_v in_o it_o then_o by_o divine_a appointment_n this_o be_v a_o necessary_a qualification_n for_o every_o church-member_n to_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o give_v it_o for_o the_o minor_a which_o be_v this_o that_o the_o people_n neither_o be_v nor_o by_o divine_a appointment_n be_v necessary_o require_v to_o be_v in_o a_o capacity_n to_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o call_v to_o the_o ministry_n this_o i_o shall_v prove_v from_o those_o thing_n which_o be_v requisite_a to_o put_v man_n into_o such_o a_o capacity_n and_o thus_o i_o argue_v authority_n and_o ability_n to_o judge_v of_o the_o fitness_n of_o a_o minister_n be_v necessary_a to_o make_v a_o man_n capable_a of_o give_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o minister_n call_v but_o people_n neither_o