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A20683 A defence of church gouernment Dedicated to the high Court of Parliament. Wherein, the church gouernment established in England, is directly proued to be consonant to the word of God, and that subiects ought of dutie to conforme themselues to the state ecclesiasticall. Together with, a defence of the crosse in baptisme; as it is vsed in our Church, being not repugnant to the word: and by a consequent, the brethren which are silenced, ought to subscribe vnto it, rather then to burie their talents in the ground. By Iohn Doue, Doctour of Diuinity. Dove, John, 1560 or 61-1618. 1606 (1606) STC 7081; ESTC S110107 58,733 80

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as to him did appertaine as appeareth by the story of the Gospel But thus I prooue that Bishops ought to be Lords Our Sauiour being asked whether a man might put away his wife answereth negatiuely his argument of proofe being drawne from the law of nature saying Ab initio non fuit sic from the beginning it was not so Likewise the argument Mat. 19. followeth Bishops ought to be Lords and Ecclesiasticall persons to exercise ciuill authority quoniam ab initio fuit sic because frō the beginning it was so From Adam to Moses it was so from Moses to our Sauiour Christ the Apostles it was so with them it was so and from them it hath continued so vntill this time excepting onely the times of persecution when the course of the Gospel was interrupted and there was no setled state of a Church No meruaile though in time of persecution they were not held for Lords for then they were not allowed to be Citizens nor thought worthy to liue in a Common wealth The Pagan Emperours helde them for seditious persons troublers of the state and of all men most worthy of death Our question is not what then was of fact but what ought to haue beene of right It must not seeme strange that Saint Iohn or Saint Paul could not be in authority vnder Nero Domitian nor the godly Bishops vnder the ten persecutions sceing our Sauiour was not allowed any authority vnder Herod nor Pilat nor Augustus nor Tiberius No meruaile though Titus could not be held as a Lord in the Kingdome of Creete seeing that neither Iehoahaz being lawfully anoynted King of Iuda could not reigne 2. Reg. 25. 2. Rug. 24 as a King being taken captiue by Pharao nor Iehoiakim nor Sedechias being oppressed by Nebuchadnezer From Adam vnto Moses he that was the eldest of euery Gen. 1. 26 Gen. 2. 23 Gen. 4. 3. 4 familie was both the king and the priest ouer his own family among Gods people So Adam was a king because God gaue him absolute power ouer the whole world he was also a priest for hee offered sacrifice Caine and Abel brought to him their sacrifices that he might offer in their behalfe they are onely saide to haue offered as Asa the King and all the people are saide to haue offered when the Priest did offer in 2. Chr. 15 their behalfe Henoch seeing the children of God to fall daily from faith to infidelity which was the cause of the deluge published against them the sentence of excommunication saying The Lord commeth which is the most grieuous kinde of excōmunicatiō And S. Paul did borrow that form of him Iudae v. 14 where he writ Hee that loueth not the Lord Iesus let him be an athema marannatha cursed vntill the Lords comming And Moses 1. Cor. 16 did reckon vp so long a catalogue of all the eldest sonnes descended from Adam before the flood to this end that it Gen. 5. might appeare vnto whom from time to time the Lord committed the care of gouerning instructing the Church Noah a king was a preacher of righteousnesse one hundred and twenty yeares before the flood hee offered sacrifice after the flood That Iethro the father in law of Moses was both a 2. Pet. 2. 5 1. Pet. 2. 19 4. 16. Gen. 8. 20. Numb 3. 12. 12. 8. 16. 17. prince a priest likewise Iob in the land of Huz no learned man will deny And that none might offer sacrifices but the eldest and Princes of euery family it appeareth by the writings of Moses because God said he would take the tribe of Leui to be seperated for his seruice as a redemption of all the rest of the first borne of Israel In which words hee did but call to remembrance the time of nature wherein the eldest were all his that is they were consecrated for the offering of sacrifice vnto him When Melchisedech was King and Priest of Salem Ge. 14. 18 Abraham also was King and Priest ouer his own family It was saide of him Thou art a great Prince of God among vs Gen. 23. 6 Ge. 18. 19. Ge. 22. 10 Gen. 17. Ge. 26. 24 And he taught them Gods word he erected an altar and offered sacrifice To him first was committed the sacrament of circumcision and he circumcised his sonne Isaac Isaac his heire crected an altar and offered cacrifice for the exercise of his faith Iacob after him did the like taught purity of religion and how Idolls were to be abolished Ge. 35. 11. In the daies of Moses vnder the time of the law when priesthood was appropriated to one peculiar tribe of Leui and the Bishoprick to one certaine family Moses and Aaron both being priests Moses the yonger brother had the chiefe authority in ciuill businesses Aaron the elder in Ecclesiasticall causes but all supreame authority was committed to these two priests Moses and Aaron That Moses was a priest Exod. 24. 6. 7. 8. it is euident because all the whole tribe of Leui were then consecrated ●o holy priesthood whereof hee was one hee in particular offered sacrifice preached Gods word consecrated Exod. 40. Numb 20. Aaron to be an high priest and Eleazar in his place when he was dead consecrated the altar which none could doe without sacrilege but a priest Yet he was the supreame ciuil Magistrate And in his absence 40. daies he substituted Aaron the priest in his roome to heare ciuill causes and supply the place of a ciuill Magistrate Phinees the high priest Numb 25. was a Captaine in warre and busied himselfe with secular affaires and it pleased God so much that the priesthood was conferred not onely vpon him but also his posterity Samuel the Prophet who ministred before the Lord in a linnen Ephod was also the chiefe ciuil Magistrate and in his own person did ride his circuit as a Iudge euery yeare ouer all the 1. Sam 12. 18. 1. Sam. 7. 1. Sam. 8. land All the daies of the Iudges which was about two hundred ninety and nine yeares from the death of Iosua vnto Eli the priest there was no certaine supreame ciuill magistracie in any but in the high priests or Bishops among the people When the people desired a king of God they cōsulted with Samuel in that secular busines After those 299. yeares of the Iudges Eli the Bishop reigned as supreame ciuill Magistrate 40. yeares so did Samuel after him the space of 40. yeares Afterward when Saule was by him annointed King yet Samuel ruled ioyntly with Saule so long as he liued and indeed bore the greatest sway in the realme because Saule had little more then the title of a King during the life of Samuel and was to doe nothing without allowance from him How the Clergie among Gods people busied themselues with the affaires of the temporal●ie and howe much they pleased God in so doing it appeareth by these examples Numb 31 6. 26. Numb
had his calling from his Father Moses from God Aaron from Moses the Apostles from our Sauiour Timothy Titus from S. Paul so we must consider in whom this authority resteth to call men to the ministery for none of these of whom I haue spoken had any consent of the people This custome of popular election is borrowed out of the Turkes Alcaron and not of the Bible It is saide to the congregation concerning the election of Deacons Looke ye out 7. men of honest conuersation c by which it is iustified which our law doth require that they vpon whom the Bishoppe Act. 6. shall lay hands must bring with them sufficient testimony of their worthinesse but in the words following it is said whom we may appoint to this businesse And afterward verse 6. when they were found out they set them before the Apostles and the Apostles prayed and laide hands vpon them but not the people as our Bishops assisted with other ministers without the helpe of the people ordeine ministers with vs. Therefore in their obiection out of the Acts where they alleage these English words When they had ordeined Elders by Act. 14. election in euery Church c they doe but deceiue themselues For the Greeke word is cheirotoneo of cheir an hand and teino porrigo extendo noteleno to reach or stretch forth or lay on not to eleuate or lift vp so cheirotoneia is not eleuation but imposition of hands in Eccesiasticall writers These words then cheirotonesantes eautois presbuterous is manuum impositione consecrantes sibi ipsi● presbyteros when by imposition of hands they had consecrated Elders or Ministers as Moses by imposition of hands conferred the holy Ghost vpon Iosua and sanctified him to be a Magistrate and our Deut. 24. Matt. 19. Sauiour in the Gospel by laying hands on the children blessed them And th●● cheirotoneia is expressed more plainely by another Greeke word in the Acts of the Apostles concerning Act. 6. the consecration of Deacons to be epithesis ion cheiron imposition of hands where the text saith proseuxamenoi op●thecan autois tas cheiras when they had prayed they layed hands vpon them And Gual●er in his Commentary vpon that place of the Acts which before was alleaged when they had ordeined Elders by election in euery Citie after he hath iustified these popular elections vsed in the Church of Tigurie and dispraised our manner of ordination reuoketh himselfe and confesseth by the word cheirotonesantes magis verisimiliter hîc incelligi manuum impositionem non incerto populo rem tam seriam committendam that in that place imposition of hands is rather to be vnderstoode then any popular election and that a matter of so great importance as the ordination of Ministers is not to be committed to the rude and inconstant common people He commeth now to his ob Sol and obiecteth in our behalfe as we doe our selues commonly alleage that it cannot stand with the state of a Kingdome that there should be a popular gouernment of the Church And he answereth himselfe that it is not requisite that the gouernment of the Church should bee answerable to the gouernement of the Realme To which his answer I reply that if the gouernment of the Church be not answerable to the gouernment of the Realme then our assertion is true that this popular gouernment cannot stand with the state of a Kingdome because the King is by the people excluded out of the Church gouernment With vs Bishops are the Kings Lieutenants in Ecclesiasticall causes and all Ecclesiasticall Courts are the Kings Courts they be held immediately vnder the King his authority in causes Ecclesiasticall being subalternate and immediately subordinate vnto our Sauiour Christ Now for as much as they which hold with the lay Eldership and popular gouernment doe claime their authority immediately from God without the King they derogate from the Kings authority in Ecclesiasticall causes and in Church matters they hold him for no King Lastly whereas we obiect that popular gouernment with vs cannot be but tumultuous and hee answereth that no tumults can arise by their gouernment considering foure circumstances First that it is Gods ordinance Secondly that it is to be executed by no greater multitude then a parish Thirdly that the Church guides being seperated from the people determine the matter and prepare it onely the people consent with them Fourthly if any few be violent and vnruly the next Iustices are to keepe the peace among them It is but an answerlesse answer For first that popular gouernment is not Gods but mans ordinance as I haue shewed Secondly it is apparant that diuers parishes with vs be so populous that they consist of many thousands and are as large in compasse as some Diocesse in other places Thirdly for the guides of the Church priuately to agree vpon the matter and to vrge the people and constraine them by the authority of Iustices of peace to yeelde vnto that which they haue decreed is as much as to make it no popular election at all because then free consents are denied them and all authority resteth in the guides of the Church For if there be no tumult it is wholly in the power of the Church Magistrates to conclude and establish what they list and the people must agree to it if there be a tumult the Magistrates of the Church are to command the Iustices to execute what their selues would haue done so that the people are vsed but as ciphers and haue no liberty in themselues So this is as good as no election Of Lord Bishops and Ecclesiasticall persons exercising ciuill authoritie THe common obiection is that our Sauiour being the chiefe Bishop was not held for a Lord neither had hee any outward pompe or glory in this world To which I answer if so be they inferre this conclusion vpon that example therefore Bishops must not be Lords the weakenesse of that argument will appeare by the like for they may as well conclude against Kings that because our Sauiour being a King yet was no Lord had no pompe nor glorie-therefore Kings must not be Lords c. I could answer further Tit. 2. that he was a Lord and so the Apostle doth call him a great Lord and the head of the Church and the Prince of Eph. 4. 15. Apoc. 1. the kings of the earth and because he is head of the Church all Kings doe holde their Crownes vnder him That the world did not acknowledge him for a Lorde it was their blindnesse Hee came to be crucified and had the world knowne him non Dominum gloriae crucifixissent they had not crucified the Lord of glory And yet in his state of humility hee had an honourable retinew to attend vpon him to the number of eighty two his twelue Apostles and seuenty Disciples Matth. 1● Luk. 10. Iudas was his treasurer or pursbearer he sent Philip to the market to buy bread he imployed his Disciples in such seruices