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A04468	A defence of the Apologie of the Churche of Englande conteininge an answeare to a certaine booke lately set foorthe by M. Hardinge, and entituled, A confutation of &c. By Iohn Iewel Bishop of Sarisburie.	Jewel, John, 1522-1571.; Jewel, John, 1522-1571. Apologia Ecclesiae Anglicanae. English.; Harding, Thomas, 1516-1572. Confutation of a booke intituled An apologie of the Church of England.	1567 (1567)	STC 14600.5; ESTC S112182	1,137,435	832

sua Antichristum praecurrit I speake it boldely Who so euer calleth him selfe the Vniuersal Prieste or desireth so to be called as doth the Pope in the Pride of his harte he is the forerenner of Antichriste And when Iohn then Bishop of Constantinople had firste entred his claime vnto this title S. Gregorie made answeare vnto the same Ex hac eius Superbia quid aliud nisi propinqua iam esse Antichristi tempora designantur By this Pride of his what thinge els is signified but that the time of Antichriste is euen at hande Againe he saithe vpon occasion of the same Rex soperbiae propè est quod dici nefas est Sacerdotum est praeparatus exercitus The Kinge of Pride that is Antichriste is comminge to vs and an Armie of Priestes is prepared whiche thinge is wicked to be spoken S. Hierome saithe Antichristus omnem Religionem suae subijciet Potestati Antichriste shal cause al Religion to be subiecte to his Power I wil not here take vpon me to discrie either the Person or y● dwelling Place of Antichriste Who so hath eies to sée let him sée These Circūstances agree not vnto many S. Paule saith Antichriste woorketh the Mysterie or secrete practise of Iuiquitie Whereupon the Glose saith Mystica est Impietas Antichristi id est Pieratis nomine palliata The wickednesse of Antichriste is Mystical that is to saie It is not plaine open or easy to be espied of euery body but cloked vnder the name of Godlinesse And for as mutche as M. Hardinge thinketh wee misallege these Writers and violently force them to our side whether thei wil or no S. Bernarde saithe thus Bestia illa de Apocalypsi cui datum lest os loquens Blasphemias bellum gerere cum Sanctis Petri Cathedram occupat tanquam Leo paratus ad praedam That Beaste that is spoken of in the Booke of Reuelations vnto whiche Beaste is geuen a mouthe to speake Blashemies and to keepe warre againste the Sainctes of God is novve gotten into Peters Chaire as a Lion prepared to his praie Ioachimus Abbas saide aboue three hundred yéeres sithence Antichristus iam pridem natus est Romae altiùs se extollet in Sede Apostolica Antichriste is already borne in Rome and shal auaunce him selfe higher in the Apostolique See Arnulphus in the Councel of Remes saith thus Quid hunc Reuerēdi Patres in sublimi Solio residentem veste purpurea aurea radiantem quid hunc inquam esse censeris Nimirùm si charitate destituitur solaque scientia inflatur extollitur Antichristus est in Templo Dersedens sese oftendens tanquam sit Deus What thinke you Reuerend Fathers of this man be meaneth the Pope sittinge on highe in his Throne glitteringe in purple and clothe of Golde What thinke you him to be Verily if he be voide of Charitie and be blowen vp and auaunced onely with knowledge then is he Antichrist sitting in the Temple of God and shewing out him selfe as if he were God The Bishoppes in the Councel at Reinspurg saie thus Hildebrandus Papa sub specie Religionis iecit Fundamenta Antichristi Pope Hildebrande vnder a coloure of holinesse by forebiddinge Priestes mariage hath saide the Fundation for Antichriste Dante 's an Italian Poëte by expresse woordes calleth Rome the Whoore of Babylon Fanciscus Petrarcha likewise saithe Rome the Whoore of Babylon The Mother of al Idolatrie and Fornication the Sanctuarie of Heresie and the Schole of Errour I knowe these woordes wil séeme odious vnto many Therefore I wil staie spare the reste The Pope him selfe for that he sawe to whoe 's Person and credite these thinges belonged therefore in his Late Councel of Laterane gaue straite Commaundemente to al Preachers that noman shoulde dare once to speake of the Comminge of Antichriste The Apologie Cap. 17. Diuision 1. And what marueile if the Churche were then carried awaie with errours in that time specially when neither the Bishop of Rome who then onely ruled the roste nor almoste any other either didde his duetie or once vnderstoode what was his duetie For it is harde to be beleeued whiles they were idle and faste asleepe that the Diuel also al that while either fel asleepe or els continually laie idle For howe they were occupied in the meane time and with what faithfulnesse they tooke care of Goddes House though we holde our peace yet I praie you let them heare Bernarde theire owne frende The Bishoppes saith he vvho novve haue the charge of Goddes churche are not Teachers but Deceiuers They are not Feeders but Beguilers They are not Prelates but Pilates These wordes spake Bernarde of that Bishop who named him selfe the higheste Bishop of al and of the other Bishoppes likewise whiche then hadde the place of gouernemente Bernarde was no Lutherane Bernarde was no Heretike he had not forsaken the Catholike Churche yet neuerthelesse he did not lette to cal the Bishoppes that then were Deceiuers Beguilers Pilates Nowe when the people was openly deceiued and Christian mennes eies were craftily bleared and Pilate sate in Iudgement place and condemned Christe and Christes Members to Swerde and Fiere O good Lorde in what case was Christes Churche then But yet tel me of so many and so grosse errours what one erroure haue these menne at any time refourmed Or what faulte haue they once acknowledged and confessed M. Hardinge VVhy Sirs are ye so wel learned and so holy of life your selues that ye take vpon you to iudge the Bishop of Rome Christes chiefe officer in earthe and al other men before the time of your Apostates and Renegate Frters to haue ben both impious for not doing theire dutie and ignorant for not knowinge what was theire dutie VVas al Vertue so farre bannished al necessarie knowledge and Christian learninge so cleane put out that wee muste nowe beginne to learne how to beleue and howe to liue a Christian life of sutche light preachers Wicked vowbreakers lewde Lecherous Lurdens and detestable blasphemers as your deuilishe rable is S. Bernardes wordes to Eugenius be these Age indagemus adhuc diligentiùs quis sis c. VVel goe too Let vs somewhat more diligently examine what manner a man thou art what person thou bearest for the presente time in the Churche of God VVho art thou The greate Preieste the highest Bishop Thou arte the chiefe of al Bishoppes thou arte the heire of the Apostles for primacie thou arte Abel for Gouernement Noë for Patriarkship Abraham for holy order Melchiscdech for dignitie Aaron for Auctoritie Moyses for iudgemente Samuel for power Peter for thy anointinge Christe Thou art he●to whom the Keies were deliuered to whom the Shepe were committed There be also other porters of Heauen and Pastours of flockes But thou so mutche farre passinge al other as thou haste inherited bothe names mutche more indifferent They haue theire flockes assigned vnto them

Wée are not gonne from the Churche of God M. Hardinge Wée are gonne onely from you that haue so vnreuerently abused the Churche But ye feele good ease yée saie and are wel reliued by our departure as to vse your homely comparisons a sick body is reliued by a purgation God of his mercie graunt that yée maie likewise be purged of al the reste So shal yée féele more ease and be better reliued S. Hierome saithe Hebraei dicunt quòd ea nocte qua egressus est Israel ex Aegypto omnia in Aegypto Templa destructa sunt siue terrae motu fiue ictu fulminum Spiritualiter autem dicimus quòd egredientibus nobis ex Aegypto errorum Idola corruant omnis Peruersarum Doctrinarum cultura quatiatur The Rabines or Hebrewe Doctoures saie that the same night that Israel departed out of Egypte al the Idolatrous Temples in Egypte were destroied either by Earthquake or by Lighteninge But here of wee learne in a Spiritual sense that when wee departe out of Egypte that is to saie from the companie of Idolaters the Idolles of erroure falle to the grounde and al the honoure of false Doctrine is shaken downe Sutche reliefe M. Hardinge wée trust yée shal finde by our departure Beda expoundinge these woordes of the Apocalyps Comme foorthe from her my people and be not partetakers of her sinnes saithe thus Inducit discessionem quae est ruina Babylonis cùm enim Loth discesserit à Sodomis Sodomae funditùs tollentur S. Iohn speaketh of the departure whiche is the ruine and fal of Balylon For when Loth shal departe out of Sodome then shal Sodome vtterly be ouerthrowen Againe he saithe Post haec audiui vocem Alleluia Laus Gloria Virtus Deo nostro Haec nunc ex parte dicit Ecclesia Tunc autem perfectè dicet cùm discessio facta fuerit After this I hearde a voice Alleluia Praise and Glorie and Power be to our God This songe the Churche in parte singeth already But then shal shee in deede and perfitely singe it when departure shal be made from Antichriste or Babylon The Apologie Cap. 14. Diuision 1. For if they saie It is in no wise lawful for one to leaue the felowship wherein he hathe benne brought vp they maie aswel in our names vpon our heades likewise condemne the Prophetes the Apostles and Christe him selfe For why complaine they not also of this that Loth went quite his waie out of Sodome Abraham out of Chaldee the Israelites out of Egypte Christe from the Ievves and Paule from the Phariseis For excepte it be possible there maie be a lawful cause of Departinge wee see no reasone why Loth Abraham the Israelites Christe and Paule maie not be accused of Sectes and Seditions aswel as others M. Hardinge Yet bringe ye nothing to the purpose Your proufes be so weake and hange so euil togeather that we maie wel tel you whiche Irenaeus obiected to Heretikes that ye make a rope of sande VVe saie not it is in no wise lawful for one to leaue the felowship wherein he hath benne brought vp But contrary wise if the felowship be naught and wicked euery one is bound to eschewe it ▪ Depart from Babylon my people and be not ye partakers of her sinnes saith the heauenly voice to S. Iohn Therefore the examples ye bringe helpe nothinge your cause Loth went out of Sodome Abraham of Chaldea the Israèlites of Egypte Paule from the Phariseis by Gods special warninge VVhere ye saie Christe went from the Iewes onlesse ye referre it to his steppinge aside from them for a while ye shoulde rather haue saide the Iewes went from Christe But whereto perteineth this Though ye were so malicious as to compare the Catholike Churche to Sodome to Chaldea to Egypte to the Iewes and Phariseis yet I wene ye are not so proude as to compare your selues to Loth to Abraham to Gods peculiar people to Paule to Christe himselfe These departinges we allowe and God required them yours we blame and God detesteth The B. of Sarisburie Wée compare not our selues M. Hardinge neither with Loth nor with Abraham nor with Paule leaste of al with Christe him selfe But wée humbly submitte our selues both in life and in Doctrine to be guided by theire Examples And thus I truste we maie lawfully doo without iuste note of presumption S. Chrysostome saithe Data est tibi potestas diuinitùs imitandi Christum vt possis illi similis fieri Noli expauescere hoc audiens Timēdum enim tibi potiùs est si similis illi fieri negligas Thou haste power geeuen the from God to folowe Christe that thou maiste be like vnto him Be thou not afraide to heare this thinge Thou haste more cause to feare if thou refuse to be like vnto him Likewise saithe the Anciente Father Origen Si quem imitati volumus propositus est nobis Christus ad imitandum If wee desire to folowe any man Christe is set before vs that wee shoulde folowe him But if it be so Provvde a parte in Religion and Life to folowe Christe what is he then that claimeth to him selfe Christes Authoritie and calleth him selfe euen by the name of Christe You know of whom it is written Papa potest quicquid Christus ipse potest The Pope can doo what so euer Christe him selfe can doo Yee knowe who is wel contented to heare him selfe thus saluted Touchinge Primacie thou art Abel touchinge Gouernemente thou art Noē touchinge Patriarkship thou art Abraham touchinge Order thou art Melchisedech touchinge Dignitie thou art Aaron touchinge Authoritie thou art Moses touchinge Iudgemente thou art Samuel touchinge Power thou art Peter touchinge Anointinge thou art Christe These woordes I trowe M. Harding maie sommewhat séeme to sauoure of Pride The Apologie Cap. 14. Diuision 2. And if these menne wil needes condemne vs for Heretiques bicause we doo not al thinges at theire Commaundemente whom in Goddes Name or what kinde of menne ought they themselues to be taken for whiche despise the Commaundemente of Christe and of the Apostles M. Hardinge Our frailtie concerninge life we accuse and lamente and commende our selues to Gods infinite mercie Touchinge belefe and necessarie doctrine of faithe raile ye at vs neuer so mutche we neither despise the Commaundementes of Christe nor the ‡ traditions of the Apostles The Apologie Cap. 14. Diuision 3. If we be Schismatiques bicause we haue leaft them by what name then shal thei he called themselues whiche haue foresaken the Greekes from vvhom they firste receiued theire Faithe foresaken the Primitiue Churche foresaken Christe himselfe and the Apostles euen as if Children shoulde foresake theire parentes M. Hardinge VVho so euer departe from the Catholike Churche they be Schismatikes ye haue departed from the Catholike Churche of these nine hundred yeeres ergo ye be schismatikes The firste proposition ye wil not denie The seconde your selues confesse the conclusion then muste

Dominus Leo Papa Decimus in quodam Coetu in Ciuitate Romana nescimus qualiter non tamen in Spiritu Domini Congregato Our Lorde Pope Leo 10. in a certaine Councel geathered in y● Cittie of Rome by what meane wee know not but surely not by the Sprite of God And touchinge your Late Chapter or Conuenticle whiche ye cal the Councel of Trente the Frenche Kinges Embassadoure beinge there in presence saide thus Minùs legitima minusúe libera fuisse dicuntur illa Concilia Qui aderant ad voluntatem alterius semper loquebantur The saieinge is that these were neither Lavvful nor Free Councelles The Bishoppes that were there spake not alwaies of the Spirite of God but euermore to please somme other By whiche Other he meante the Pope Christe saith vnto Peter I haue praied for thee and Paule wente vp to Hierusalem to visite Peter Ergo ye saie The Pope hath Authoritie to confirme Councelles O M. Hardinge your Logique of Louaine is marueilous hasty Yée force your Conclusions to renne in poste For what maketh either Christes praier for Peter or Paules iourney from Arabia to Hierusalem for the Confirmation of Councelles Verily here is no manner mention neither of Confirmation nor of Councel nor of Pope Whereas Christe praied namely for Peter S. Augustine saithe as he hathe benne alleged before Nunquid pro Petro rogabat pro Iacobo Iohanne non rogabat Did Christe praie onely for Peter and did he not praie for Iames and Iohn Againe he saithe Hac nocte postulauit Satanas vexare vos sicut triticum Sed ego rogaui Patrem pro vobis ne deficiat Fides vestra This might hath Sathan desired to threashe you as if yee were wheate But I haue praied to my Father not onely for Peter but for you that your Faithe maie not faile Touchinge that Paule wente vp to Hierusalem of Courtesie to sée Peter he sought not thereby y● allowance of his Doctrine as a man that otherwise stoode in doubt whether he had so long for the space of fourtiene yéeres preached Truth or Falsehedde but rather found fault with Peters dissimulatiō in Doctrine reproued him openly euen vnto the face S. Hierome saith Perrexit Hierusalem non tam vt disceret aliquid ab Apostolis quàm cum eis Euangelium quod docuerat collaturus Paule went vp to Hierusalem not so mutche to learne any thinge of the Apostles as to conferre with them touchinge the Gospel that he had preached S. Chrysostome saithe further Paulus nihil opus habebat Petro nec illius egebat voce sed honore par erat illi Nihil enim hîc dicam amplius Paule had no neede of Peter nor had any cause to craue his voice but in honoure and woorthinesse was his equal As for more I wil not saie Concerninge the Confirmation of Councelles wée haue saide otherwhere more at large Councelles were Confirmed not onely by the Bishop of Rome but also by other Bishoppes and Patriarkes and not onely by other Bishoppes but also by Kinges and Emperours The Emperoure Martianus saith Sacro nostrae Serenitatis edicto venerandam Synodum Confirmamus By the Holy Edicte of our Maiestie wee Confirme this Reuerende Councel Likewise the Bishoppes in the Councel of Constantinople besought the Emperour Theodosius Rogamus Clementiam tuam vt per Literas tuae Pietatis ratum esse iubeas Confirmesque Concilij Decretum Wee beseeche your fauoure that by your Maiesties Letters yee wil ratifie and Confirme the Decree of the Councel Touchinge the Councel of the Apostles at Hierusalem your owne Doctoure saithe Postquàm Petrus dixisset Iacobus Authoritate Pontificali ▪ protulit Definitiuam Sententiam When Peter had saide his minde Iames by his Episcopal Authoritie pronounced the Definitiue Sentence that is to saie gaue his Confirmation to the whole To conclude Councelles haue benne allowed and holden for good whether the Bishop of Rome would or no. Liberatus saith When Anatolius by consent of the Councel of Chalcedon had obteined the Primacie the Bishop of Romes Legates stoode against it theire gainesaieinge of the Iudges and Bishoppes there was not receiued And notwithstandinge the Apostolique See of Rome euen hitherto stand againste it yet the Decree of the Councel by the Authoritie and mainteinance of the Emperoure after a sorte standeth stil in force Mutche pleasant sporte yée make vs vvith puttinge in the Popes ansvveare Be it saie you that Hicke Hob and Hans haue accused the Pope VVoulde ye haue him appeare in this Courte or in that to be iudged by Iacke and Gil The whole worlde M. Hardinge hath of longe time charged the Pope with Ambition Briberie Simonie Superstition Idolatrie and open Corruption of the ordinances and wil of God If he disdeigne the iudgemente of so many and calle the whole worlde Hicke and Hob let him not marueile if the whole worlde disdeigne him If he maie be both Iudge and Partie and maie make answeare onely before him selfe I doubte not but he shal haue a good fauourable hearinge I beséech the good Christian Reader for shortenesse sake consider that I haue written before touchinge the Accusinge and Iudgeing of the Pope There shalte thou sée as Ennodius saithe That the Pope togeather with the Power of Teaching hath receiued free libertie to doo il without controlmente Therefore he saithe Neque ab Augusto neque ab omni Clero neque à Regibus neque a Populo Iudex iudicabitur The Pope that is the Iudge shal be iudged neither by the Emperoure nor by the vvhole Cleregie nor by Kinges nor by the People Sutche a Prerogatiue saithe Athanasius was sommetime claimed by the Ariane Heretiques Cùm ipsi sint rei ac Iudicio obnoxij veluti Caiaphas iudicandi munus inuadunt Whereas they thē selues be guilty and in danger of Iudgement they plaie the parte of Caiphas and take vpon them to be iudges them selues In like manner Chrysostome sathe Figura ibi duntaxat Iudicij erat re autem ipsa erat Latronum impetus There was onely a face of Iudgemente but in deede it was a biunte or violence of Theeues Yee saie further The Pope maie saie to our condemnation that God saithe vnto the Iewes what is it that I ought to haue donne to my vinsyarde but I haue donne it And thus yée geue the Pope power to callenge the Churche of God to be his owne Euen so Nero that wicked Tyran when he had wasted and consumed the Cittie of Rome and burnte it with here he called the same neuerthelesse by his owne name Neronopolis Neroes tovvne One of your Doctoures saithe Huius Communitatis non est Dominus nisi Christus vel Papa There is no Lord of this common slate that is to saie of the Churche but either Christe or the Pope As if Christe and the Pope were iointepourchasers But in deede Christe onely is the Prince of Pastours And

Hieromes place discussed * This vvas no parte of the questiō * Vntruth For the B. of Rome is equal vvith the other foure Patriarkes as shal appeare Epist 84. Amonge Bishoppes is difference of Povver vvith likenesse of Honour Equalitie of Bishoppes The diuersitie bitvveene Bishops vvherein it consisteth a Vntruth For Christe neuer gaue the Pope any sutche charge b Vntruth For Christe neuer gaue sutche order c Vntruth For it hath not alvvaies benne obserued De Simplicitate Praelatorum d Vatruth impudente aboue measure ●rasm in Schol. in Epist ad Euagrium Hierony ad Euagrium August in quaes veter Noui Testament quae 101. Pope Leo. Hieronym in Epist ad Titum Cap. 1. Hieronym eod loco August Epist 19. ff Li. 2. De Iurisdict omnium Iudicum 16. q. 6. Consuetudo In Mar●gine Concil Aphrica Ca. 105. Superbum saeculi typhum Inter Decretaé Bonifacij 2. * Instigante Diabolo Leo Epist 89. Leo Epist 89. Leo Epist 52. Leo Epist 89. Leo in cadem Epist Leo in Sermo De Natali Petri Pauli Leo in Sermo 3. In Anniucrsario die Assumptionis Equalitie of Bishoppes Epist Iulij 1. Extra De Elect. Fundamenta Concil Aphrica Cap. 105. Gregor Lib. 4. Epist 36. Cyprian Lib. 1. Epist 3. Nisi paucis desperatis perditis Concil Aphrican Cap. 92. 1. Petr. 5. In Concil Carthaginen Concil Constantinop 2. Ca. 36. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Cyprian De Simpl. Praelator One Bishoprike Cyprian Lib. 4. Epist 2. Cyprian Lib. 4. Epist 9. Cyprian In Oration Dominicam Cyprian De Simpli Praelat Cyprian Lib. 3. Epist 13. Hieronym in Epist ad Tit. Ca. 1. Cyprian Lib. 3. Epist 13. Basili ad Neocaesarienses The sixth Canon of the Nicene Councel declared to make againste the Defenders A Vntruth For the expresse vvordes are plaine to the contrarie 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 b Vntruth Vaine and childishe c This Exposition is like a sick● mannes dreame D O folie The vvordes are plaine Quia Episcopo Romano parilis mos est E Vntruthe For the B. of Rome neuer had Povver to allotte Prouinces but him selfe had his prouince allotted him as vvel as others A Ne Recipiatur Theodore Balsamon TheConn cel of Nice Hieronym ad Marcellam Aeneas Syluius Epist 288. Lipomanus in Praefatione Copus Dial. 1. 16● Balsamonem Virum cerie doctē Nilus De Primatu Romani Pontificis 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Ruffinus Eccle. Historiae Lib. 1. Cap. 6. Suburbicaru Ecclesiarum Concil Constantinopo 2. Cap. 36. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Nicepho Lib. 12. Cap. 13. Athanas ad Solitariam Vitam agentes Cod. De Sacrosanctis Ecclesijs Omni innouatione Concil Aphrica Cap. 105. Nilus De Primatii Papa An euil Bishop loseth not the name of a Bishop though he lose the metite of a Bishop Vide Augustin Lib. 2. contra Epist Parmen Cap. 13. Tom. 7. 1. Tim. 2. A Bishop no Bishop ▪ Chryso in Matthae Homil. 43. Chrysost in eod Homil. Ambro. De Dignita Sacerdotali Cap. 4. Gregor Lib. 4. Epist 32. In Concil Constātien Session 15 Chrysost in Matthae Homil. 53. Concil Valentin sub Damas ca. 4. 2. Quae. 7. Qui nec regiminis Cyprian Lib. 1. Epist 3. Concil Trident. De Sacramente Ordinis Athanasius Ad Solitariam Vitam agentes Hieron in Soph●niam Cap. 1 ▪ Provvde Name Vniuersal Bishop * Vntruthe For it belōgeth not vnto the Pope Distin 99. Primae Sedis Gregor Lib. 4. Epist 32. 36. Platina in Bonifa●io 3. Provvde Name Distinct 98. Si Imperator In gloss Hesychius Sen. Lib. 4. 〈◊〉 17. Curerg● Dist 40. Mul●i Heruaeus De potes●ate Papae Cap. 13. Falsefieinge of a Councel M. Harding is a mery man Iohan. 5. * Vntruthe For this Canon vvil soone be founde The 26. Canon of the thirds Councel of Carthage discus sed Higheste Bishop Prince of Priestes * Vntruthe as shal appeare Vile Epistolam 〈◊〉 9. ad Petrum Iohannem Aph●ic● Episcopos * Vntruthe For this Councel namely restreineth the B. of Rome Prima Sedes vvhat it meaneth * Vntruthe ▪ grounded vpon a fable Distin 99. de Primatibus * Vntruthe grounded as the Former Dist 99. C. Proninciae * Moste manifeste moste vaine Vntruthe For the vvoordes of the Councel are these Vniuersalis autem nec etiam Romanus pontifex appelletur * A greate Vntruthe Higheste Bishop Prince of Priestes Disti 99. Primae August Contra Cresc Li. 3. Ca. 38 Artic. 4. Gregor Lib. 7 Epist 30. M. Hardinge● Amphilochius Rufinus Lib. 2. Cap. 23. Nazian Ad H●ronem Lactan. Lib. 4. Cap. 30. Hieron contra Luciferianos M. Hardinge in his Answeare to the Apologie Fol. 204. b. In Quaest Ex vtroque Testamen ▪ mixtim Qu. 10● Concil Chalced. Cap. 12. A Primate See Chrys ad Popul Antiochen Homi. 17. Concil Chalced. Ca. 28. Adri●● Papa In Capitulis ex Synodis Canonib diuer collec To. 2. Pag. 611. Al these be the VVoordes of Gregorie * Vntruthe For Platina saithe Bonifacius 3. Obtinuit à Phoca Magna tamē Contentione * There appeareth no sutche mater in al that Counc●l a Vntruthe As appear●th by the Former Authoritie of Platina b Vntruthe As further appeareth by the Answeare * Vntruthe and most Vaine fantasie For no Bishop of Constātinople euer dreamed of sutche Authoritie Vniuersal * Vntruthe For Christe neuer erected any sutche Primacie * The like vvhole Charge vvas geuen to Paule Iohn and Mathevve as shal appeare Cyprian in Con●cil Carthagin Gregor Lib. 4. Epist 38. Gregor Lib. 4. Epist 30. Gregor Lib. 7. Epist 30. Vniuersal Ma●t 23. Appianus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Chrys in Sermo De Eleemosy Chrysost in Act. Homili 53. Chrysost De Laudibus Pauli Homil. 2. Chrys in Homil. De Profectu Euangelij Chrysost ad Popul Antioche Homil. 73. Chrysost in Prologo in Iohan. Chrys in Matthae Homil. 48. Vniuersal a Abbas De Cōcess Praeben Quia diuersita b Extra De Appel ▪ Ve debitus In Gloss c Extra De statu Regulari Periculoso In Gloss d Ceremoniar Lib. 1. Cap. 4. e Paralipome Vrspergen De Disputatione Lipsica f Francis Zarabella * Vntruthe For it is knovven ▪ vvee haue them * Vntruthe For vvee haue abandoned neither the Priesthoode nor the Sacrifice that Christe appointed * Vntruthe For B. Shaxton and B. Capon taught the same * Vntruthe For he vvas chosen by Canonical Election of the Chapter as al other Bishoppes haue benne before In praescriptionibus aduersus Haereticos These be Tertullians vvoordes Epist 165. * Vntruthe By your ovvne Confession Euen he that gaue M. Hardinge Orders in the time of K. Edvvarde * Vntruths tvvo togeather in one Sentence See the Ansvveare Athanas in Apologia ● A vaine Vntruthe For if it had benne any thinge it had benne a Communion not a Masse But Athanasius saithe plainely Neque Ecclesia ibi erat neque Sacra ficbant neque tēpus mysteriorum agebatur Contra H●res ● Lib a. In Dialog● contra Luciferianos Succession Sacerdotē M.