between Residence and Restraint to complain to his Majesty that if the Laws of England and Ireland as his Lordship sayes be the same the Passage is open by 4 Jacob. which Repeals 5 Rich. 2. unless the King by Proclamation or a Ne Exeat Regno on special Causes lay a restraint That to the Lord Esmond 's Commission if there was one that Record ought to be produced That for the Lord Roche there was an Information but that was ceased before the denial of the Licence That the true reason why Mac-Carty was denied licence was that he should not complain of his Suit which he said Mr. Little confessed upon taking his Petition as was deposed upon Oath by one John Meaugh John Meaugh And as to Parry 's Sentence it declares something said to be the Cause but not the whole To his last that this is not Treason though they are not individual Treasons yet they are the multiplication of acts of Arbitrary Power and his obtaining power to hinder Subjects access to his Majesty is taking such a Soveraign Power that Non sentit parem nec superiorem Mr. Maynard added That they laid the stress upon this that it was to prevent Complaints of his injustice to his Majesty and that his intention might make that ill which in it self was not so To which Mr. Glyn supplyed That his Design was introducing a Tyrannical Government and before he goes about his work he puts off all means of Redress The 17th and 18th Articles being for the present waved Mr. Artic. 19. Whitlock proceeded to the 19th Article shewing That as he had Exercised Tyrannical Power over the Lives Liberties and Estates of the Irish so over the Consciences of the Scottish Subjects in Ireland by a new Oath and that he said he would root out the Scottish Nation if he returned to Ireland To prove this Sir James Montgomery was sworn who deposed Sir James Montgomery That the Lord-Deputy sent for most of the principal of the Scottish Nation to Dublin by Letters and being come the Lord Viscount Montgomery being indisposed with a Cold the Lord came to his Lodgings where they were to attend him he communicated to them the disorders of Scotland and wished them to do something to vindicate themselves from being of the Confederacy that then the Bishops of Down and Raffo proposed the joyning in a lawful Oath as the others had in an unlawfull and to Petition the Lord-Deputy for it the Bishop of Down offered to draw it but my Lord put it upon the Bishop of Raffo that he took the Liberty to tell his Lordship it was amiss to consider of it To which he replyed Sir James you may go home and Petition or not Petition if you will but if you do not or who do not or to that purpose shall do worse That 2 Petitions were drawn one down right railing the other bitter enough and when it was desired to be softned answer was made the Lord-Deputy had seen it and did approve it that with little alteration the Petition was Signed and Delivered an Oath was framed which my Lord himself administred to them that Commissions came down immediately to administer it to all men and women above 16 years of Age and certifie the names of refusers that many fled out of the Countrey some absconded others were apprehended and he thinks censured some left their Corn on the Ground but being asked about the Papists he did not hear that the Oath was tendred to them or that they were called Then the Oath was Read which see before in the beginning of these Collections Maxwell Sir John Clotworthy Mr. Maxwell sworn deposed to the same Effect Then Sir John Clotworthy sworn deposed That upon the imposing it being a Commissioner he knew multitudes fled left their Corn on the Ground Cattle and Dwellings Richard Salmon deposed Rich. Salmon a School-master That at the Proceedings against Mr. Stuart he being willing to take the first part of the Oath as to Allegiance and Supremacy but the later part as to Ecclesiastical Duties he durst not my Lord told him they had other Oaths for that but this was for both and those who were obedient to Ecclesiastical Orders he would lay his hand under their Feet to do them good but whosoever would resist he would prosecute to the blood That my Lord said further They had made him forget himself by putting him into some passion That they were Traitors and Rebels and that if his Majesty would Honour him so much as to send him back again he would eradicate Root and Branch of all that Nation out of the Kingdom of Ireland saving the Lords and others that had taken the Oath That Mr. Steward was Fined 5000 his Wife 5000 his 2 Daughters 3000 l. a piece and James Gray 3000 as he remembers That Gray was not worth 100 l. Mr. Stuart maintaining him in Prison John Loftus sworn John Loftus deposed to the Fines and the words about the Scottish Nation Mr. Whitlock Summed up the Evidence concluding This was to take a Power far above Law to bind their Consciences that it shewed my Lord's Intention to alter Laws with all his Force and Cruelty The Earl then made his Defence The Earl's Desence That their Lordships and particularly the Lord Steward who was General of the Army against the Scots knew the posture of the King's affairs their fears of the Scots in Ireland and their Confederacy with the Covenanters one being condemned and Executed for Plotting to deliver Knockfergus to a Great man in Scotland To prevent this Lord Dillon there was a debate of Council-Board which was attested by the Lord Dillon and that the whole proceeding about the Oath was concluded on as necessary for the preservation of the State Sir Philip Manwaring and Sir Adam Loftus affirmed the same Sir Philip Manwarin Sir Adam Loftus and that none of the Gentlemen who took the Oath appeared refractory My Lord added They did it chearfully save only Sir James Montgomery which he remembers to their Honour that there being an Expression in the Petition Offering their Lives and Fortunes for vindicating the Regal Power which he said might be turned too strictly upon them he qualified it with these words In equal manner and measure with other his Majestie 's Subjects which as my Lord Montgomery will he is assured justifie were put in by him The Petition and the Act of State were then read being to this Effect By the Lord-Deputy and Council WENTWORTH Where We have lately made an Act of Council in these words WHereas divers Lords Spiritual and Temporal Knights The Act of State and Petition about the Oath in Ireland and others inhabiting in this Kingdom have lately exhibited a Petition to Vs in these words following To the Right Honourable the Lord Deputy and Council c. The Humble Petition of c. The Petition recites The horror apprehended by the Petitioners His Majesties
he goes into Ireland you will find his Temper and Spirit not a whit Allayed but now being further from His Majestie 's Person he is higher in his Power and in his Will It is true that Kingdom was annexed to this many years ago but they that now possess the greatest part of it are Subjects of this Kingdom descended from them that went from hence thither Yet he tells them in a solemn Speech not suddenly but solemnly That Ireland is a Conquered Nation and the King might do with them what he would and that their Charters were nothing worth and bind the King no longer than he pleases Surely My Lords We might see what he would do if he had Power But God be blessed we find not the disposition any where resented by His Majesty and we hope that such Councels shall never have Access to so good and gracious an Ear. 4. The next thing he stays not in words but will be as good as his word if he can and he begins high For that we presents next is a Peer of the Kingdom thrust out of his Possession by my Lord of Strafford 's Order and when he Sues at Law for recovery of his Right my Lord Threatens him Truly Threatnings are not good in such a case where a man Sues for Justice And from him that ought to Administer Justice and further him in it yet he Threatens him Imprisonment to which Peers are not ordinarily liable First my Lord tells him He will not have Law nor Lawyers question his Orders he might debar the Lawyers in some Cases but why a man should have a Spleen at the Law that his Orders should not be examined by that I know not And he goes higher for when there was an occasion to speak of an Act of State he tells him That he will make him and all Ireland know that as long as he had the Government there any Act of State made or to be made should be as binding as an Act of Parliament My Lords He cannot go higher in Speeches than this That an Act of State of his own making and his own Power should be as binding as an Act of Parliament Nay he tells them in Parliament That they were a Conquered Nation and must expect Laws as from a Conquerour 5. Next we shall shew divers Instances wherein he exercises Power over the Lives Lands and all that is the Subjects deduced into several Articles viz. the 5th the 6th the 7th and the 8th In particular one I shall be bold to open That is the Case of my Lord Mountnorris another Peer of that Kingdom and a great Officer there Some words fell from that Lord speaking of one that had trodden on my Lord of Strafford 's Toe That he hoped the Party did it not in Revenge for he had a Brother that would not have sought such a Revenge For these words spoke at a private Table half a year yea seven months before my Lord of Strafford calls a Council of War and judges his Lordship to death My Lords It is no wonder that he would make the King 's little Finger so heavy that could make his own Toe heavy enough to tread the Life of a Peer under his Feet And he did not only give Sentence in that Case but caused Execution to be done in another Case upon one D. who was condemned by Martial Law and hanged at Dublin where there was no War at all Other particulars will follow when I fall upon proof 9. Then he comes to make Laws and that is in the 9th Article By the Laws of England and Ireland too the Ecclesiastical Power is distinct from the other it not extending to the Imprisonment of the Person but is to attend the King's Courts and to receive directions from thence yet he makes a Warrant to the Bishop of Downe and he made it to others too That if any of the poorer sort did not appear upon the Bishop's Citation or not obey when they did appear they should be Attached and Imprisoned Here he makes a Law of himself and subjects the Liberties of the Subjects to his own Pleasure but this was for the poorer sort of People though Justice sees no difference in matters of Estate betwixt Poor or Rich But when he hath brought it on the Poor he will afterwards bring it on the Rich. 10. The next is a Power of laying Impositions on the Subjects First he is a Farmer of the Customs he puts excessive Rates upon the Commodities that which is worth but 5 s. as the Hydes he will have valued at 20 s. and the Wool which is worth 5 s. he will have it valued at 13 s. 4 d. and by this he takes away in effect whatsoever the Commodity is worth for the Customs come very near the Value Another particular in this I shall be bold to open and I hope his Lordship will provide to give an Answer He hath advanced by this the King's Customs and a Rent of 1350 l. is encreased to the Crown But it will appear to your Lordships that the Crown hath lost and he only hath gained And whereas my Lord of Strafford says there was no other Defalcations in his Patent than in the former that will fall out to be otherwise for this is the State of the bargain There was a former Rent of 9700 l. which the Duke of Buckingham paid out of this Farm On the Earl of Strafford 's Patent that Rent is reserved and as much as came to 1350 l. more but in lieu of 1350 l. advanced to the King my Lord of Strafford hath in his Grant the Surplusage of Wines which were not in the Duke's Patent worth 3400 l. a year besides a Rent paid for the Term of the Wine of 1400 l. And whereas there was no defalcation of the Customs of London-Derry and Colerane in the Duke's Lease which amounted to 1500 l. a year my Lord of Strafford must have a defalcation for them And then the Seizures which were 500 l. a year and for Knockvergus and Straniford 2500 l. a year so here is above 5000 l. a year less to the Crown in lieu of the advance of 1350 l. a year besides the increased Customs amounting to 12000 l. a year And yet he again hath far exceeded this proportion We say further he doth not only impose on the Subjects but takes away that which is the Subjects utterly and entirely as in the case of the Flax. It is true the Employment of it belongs to Women but it is the greatest Commodity one of them of that Kingdom and of greatest profit the Revenue of the Custom of it being 800 l. a year and this he hath gotten into his own hands and possession This he got from the Natives and took it to himself He doth for that purpose issue out a Proclamation That they shall use it in such a way wherein the Natives were unskill'd and if it were not so done it should be seized and it was seized
afterwards is very high but no thanks to him that the Sentence of Death was not executed it was the Grace and Goodness of His Majesty that would not suffer my Lord Mountnorris a Person of that Eminence to be put to death against Law But the other was hanged and as appears against Law and though my Lord pretends the party was burnt in the hand yet that was not proved nor material and for him to do this in time of Peace when the Courts of Justice were open it argues a desire in his Breast to arrogate a Power above Law And in truth I may not omit some observations that my Lord made this day He hopes His Majesty would be pleased to grant him a Pardon I perceive he harboured in his thoughts that he might hang the King's Subjects when he would and then get a Pardon of course for it The Lord bless me from his Jurisdiction My Lords give me leave to go back again here is Power over the Lives and Liberties of the Subject but he exercised likewise a Tyrannical Power over his Estate Your Lordships may be pleased to remember the fourth Article where he judges my Lord of Cork's Estate in neither Church-land nor Plantation-land and therefore had no pretence of a Jurisdiction for it is a Lay Fee devolved by Act of Parliament to the Crown yet he deprives him of his possession which he had continued for Twenty nine years upon a Paper-Petition without Rules of Law And whereas my Lord of Cork went about to redeem himself the Law being every man's Inheritance and that which he ought to enjoy he tells him He will lay him by the heels if he withdraw not his Process and so when he hath judged him against an express Act of Parliament and Instructions and bound up a great Peer of the Realm he will not suffer him to redeem that wrong without a threat of laying him by the heels and he will not have Law nor Lawyers question his Orders and would have them all know an Act of State should be equal to an Act of Parliament which are words of that nature that higher cannot be spoken to declare an intention to proceed in an Arbitrary way The next was my Lord Mountnorris his Case and Rolstone And here I must touch my Lord with misrepetition Rolstone preferred a Petition to my Lord-Deputy my Lord-Deputy himself Judges his Estate and deprived him of his possession though he cannot produce so much as one example or precedent though if he had it would not have warranted an illegal action but he cannot produce a precedent that ever any Deputy did determine concerning a man's private Estate and if he hath affirmed it he proved it not some Petitions have been preferred to him but what they be non constat But though never any knew the Deputy alone to determine matters of Land yet he did it To the Seventh Article was produce no Evidence but my Lord of Strafford cannot be content with that but he must take upon him to make defence for that which is not insisted upon as a charge but since he will do so I refer it to the Book in Print where he determines the Inheritance of a Nobleman in that Kingdom that is my Lord Dillon by a Case falsly drawn and contrary to his consent and though he deprives him not of his possession yet he causes the Land to be measured out and it is a danger that hangs over his head to this day And had we not known that we had matter enough against my Lord of Strafford this should have risen in judgment against him but I had not mentioned it now if he had not mentioned it himself The Eighth Article contains several charges as that of my Lord Chancellor How he imprisoned him upon a Judgment before himself and the Council how he inforced the Seal from him when he had no Authority nay though it were excepted by his Patent that he should no way dispose of it but he looked not to Authority further than might make way to his Will Another concerns the prime Earl of that Kingdom my Lord of Kildare whom he imprisoned and kept close prisoner contrary to the King 's express command for his deliverance and in his answer my Lord acknowledges it but sayes That that Command was obtained from the King upon a mis-information These things I would not have mentioned if he had passed them over but since he gives them in give me leave to mention and say we had a ground to put them into Charge and could have proved them if there had been need punctually and expresly and I believe little to my Lord's advantage But your Lordships I think do remember my Lady Hibbots Case where the Lady Hibbots contracts with Thomas Hibbots for his Inheritance for 2500 l. executes the Contract by a Deed and Fine levied deposits part of the Money and when a Petition was exhibited to the Lord-Deputy and Council for the very Estate your Lordships remember how this came in Judgment before my Lord-Deputy there was but a Petition delivered there was an answer made and all the suggestions of the Petition denyed yet my Lord spake to Hibbots himself that was willing to accept the Money not to decline the way that he was in by Petition Five hundred pound more will do him no hurt to carry into England with him and yet without examination of a Witness a Decree was made to deprive this Lady of her Estate and the purchasing of this Land by my Lord of Strafford was proved by two Witnesses though not absolutely yet by confession of Sir Robert Meredith and others whose names were used in Trust for my Lord of Strafford and that it proved according to my Lord of Strafford's Prophecy for the man had five hundred pounds gain above the Contract with my Lady Hibbots But after the Lands were sold for Seven Thousand Pounds so that the Lady Hibbots offence was her making of a bargain whereby to gain Five hundred pounds but there was no offence in my Lord to make a bargain for Three thousand pounds and to gain Four thousand pounds presently this you see proved by Hibbots the party and by Mr. Hoy the Son of the Lady Hibbots So that here is a determination of a Cause before the Council-Table touching Land which was neither Plantation nor Church-Land without colour of the Instructions contrary to Law to Statute to Practice and if this be not an exercising of an unlawful jurisdiction over the Land and Estates of the Subject I know not what is In his answer to this Case he did open it yet whether he mistook or no I know not that he had a Letter from the King but he produces none in evidence and that is another misrecital I am sorry he should mis-recite and fix it upon the Person of His Soveraign in a case of this nature Now he falls more immediately upon the Liberty of the Subject and that is by the Warrant
existit at quod in Recordo illo in nullo est errat ' Ide◠Consideratum est quod judicium predictum in omnibus affirmetur in omnibus suo robore effectu stet remanet dicta Causa pro Errore superius assignat ' aut allegat ' in aliquo non obstante super quo Record processum predict ' necnon process ' predict ' Curia Parliamenti ibidem in premissis habit ' è predict ' Curia Parliamenti coram Domino Rege ubicunque c. per predict ' Cur ' Parliamenti Remittentur ac predictus Carolus in Curia Domini Regis coram ipso Rege habeat Executionem judicii predicti versus prefatum Thomam juxta formam effectum judicii illius predict ' Breve de Errore super ' inde non obstante Subscribed by the Clerk of the Parliament and delivered to the Defendant in the Writ of Error 29 May 1641. to be remitted into the King's-Bench that Execution may be had upon the Judgment Mr. Monday May 31. Bills for taking away the Court of Sear-Chamber and regulating the Council Board ingrosted Tuesday June 1. Votes about the Petty Farmers of the Customs Prideaux reports the Bill for taking away the Jurisdiction of the Court of Star-Chamber as being contrary to Law and tending to the bringing in of Arbitrary Government as also a Bill for regulating the proceedings of the Council-Board upon which they were ordered to be ingrossed The House fell this day upon the business of the petty Farmers of the Customs Sir Nicholas Crisp Sir John Nulls Sir John Harrison c. and upon the Debate it was Resolved c. That the Petty Farmers of the Customs taking above three pence in the pound of Merchants Strangers and others of the King's Subjects more then by Law allowed is Illegal Resolved month June 1641. c. That the said Petty Farmers for taking above the said three pence in the pound are Delinquents Resolved c. That the said Petty Farmers are for the said offence liable and ought to make restitution Notwithstanding which in favour of Sir John Harrison Resolved That Sir John Harrison a Member of the House in regard of his great service in advancing fourty thousand pounds shall not be prejudiced as to his sitting in the House Sir John Strangeways moved in the behalf of himself and the 59 that Voted against the Bill of Attainder of Thomas Earl of Strafford that there might be some order taken for their security for that they went in fear of their Lives daily affronts and great abuses being put upon them by licentious people who resorted about the Parliament House But these mighty asserters of the Priviledges of Parliament one of the greatest whereof is freedom of Speech and liberty to Vote according to a Man's Conscience thought not fit in this Case to assert their Priviledge but to leave these worthy Gentlemen at the mercy of the Rabble who were by no means to be disobliged there being further occasion to make use of their Tumultuary Insolence in order to their thorough Reformation This day Mr. Tayler presented his Petition Wednesday June 2. desiring to be restored upon his submission but it was rejected A Debate arising about ways for raising of Mony a Motion was made Motion to bring in Plate to be Coined That in regard Mony could not be procured so suddenly as the present necessity of Affairs required there might be some Expedient thought on to bring in the Plate of the Kingdom to the Mint and it was referred to a Committee to consider of it and what way it might be done The Bill for Regulating the Clerks of the Market being Reported Bill for the Clerk of the Market ingrossed Thursday June 3. Report of the Conference with the Lords about the Bishops Bill was Ordered to be Ingrossed Mr. Pierrepoint Reports the Conference with the Lords concerning the Bill for disabling Bishops to Vote in the House of Peers That their Lordships conceive that the Commons understand not unlawfulness to have any Votes there to mean to be contrary to any Law but of convenience or inconvenience because if they had thought it absolutely unlawful they would not have made Exception of the Vniversities and of such of the Nobility as should happen to be in Holy Orders And for the Bishops Right to Sit and Vote in Parliament their Lordships conceive that both by the Common Law Statutes and constant practice there is no question of it As for inconveniencies their Lordships did not yet Vnderstand any such that might induce them to deprive the Bishops and their Successors of the Right of voting in Parliament but if there be such which they yet know not they will be willing to hear them and take it into Consideration For their Votes in the Star-Chamber Council Table or any Office in Secular Affairs they have fully consented to the desires of the Commons Their Lordships have Excepted the Dean of Westminster as being a Corporation confirmed by Act of Parliament Sexto Eliz. As also that of Durham Ely and Hexam and the several Jurisdictions of those Bishops to keep Courts-Baron there by their Stewards c. And all other Courts Executed by Temporal Officers which their Lordships conceive not to be contrary to this Bill After which the Bill for disarming Recusants being reported Bill for Disarming Recusants ingrossed Bill against New Canons Read first time was ordered to be ingrossed Then a Bill for the making void of certain Canons and Constitutions Ecclesiastical lately made and for the punishment of such Prelates and others as were the framers and makers of them was read the first time The House then Entred upon the consideration of the Scottish Articles some of which were assented to Sir Thomas Widdrington reports the Case of Sir John Corbet Friday June 4th Report of Sir John Corbet's Case upon which these Votes passed Resolved c. That the Imposition of 30 l. per annum laid upon the Subjects of the County of Salop for the Muster Masters Fee by the Earl of Bridgwater Lord Lieutenant of that County is an Illegal Charge and against the Petition of Right and that it is high presumption for a Subject to impose any Tax upon the Subject and that the taking it is at Extortion against the Right of the Subject Resolved c. That the Attachment from the Council Board by which Sir John Corbet was committed was an Illegal Warrant Resolved c. That Sir John Corbet ought to have Reparation for his unjust vexation and imprisonment Resolved c. That the Earl of Bridgwater ought to make Sir John Corbet reparation Resolved c. That the House thinks sit that the Attorney General take the Information in the Star-Chamber against Sir John Corbet off the File and that he take some Course that the Bond which he entred into to attend the Suit at the Hearing be delivered unto him Resolved c. That the Lords
look to the repair and for the decoration thereof as is also elsewhere enjoyned 2. To preserve Discipline and Holy Rites 3. To be adjuments or assistants to the Bishops in Cathedrals as be the Archdeacons abroad Part of which Assistance is as seemeth to preach for them but the Bishops will excuse them that service as too painful nay forbid it as too dangerous but though they will not busie themselves in preaching yet have they leisure to be inventive and operative in poor beggerly toys and trifles which neither bring Honour to God nor good to the Church and People their Preaching and godly Life did anciently winn the Peoples Hearts to love God and them as his Ministers whom they received as Angels of God Ambassadors from Heaven Humility Piety and Industry laid the Foundation of all those magnificent Structures Dignities Titles Places Revenues and Priviledges wherewith the Church-men were anciently endowed what hath or is likely to demolish them is easie to conjecture King James hath delivered it in these Words The natural sickness that hath ever troubled and been the decay of all Churches since the beginning of the World hath been Pride Ambition and Avarice and these Infirmities wrought the overthrow of the Popish Church in this Country and divers others but the reformation of Religion in Scotland was extraordinarily wrought by God though many things were inordinately done by such as blindly were doing the Work of God Thus far that wise and religious Prince But lest I should forget a principal part of the Office Church Musick it shall have here the first Place the rather for that as I read the first coming in thereof was to usher Antichrist for I do find in my reading that Anno Dom. 666. the Year that was designed or computed for the coming of Antichrist Vitalian Bishop of Rome brought into the Church singing of Service and the use of Organs c. As we read in Plat. Baleus and others in the life of Vitalian who therefore was called the Musical Pope although at that time there was greater occasion of Sorrow the Longobards having entred and wasted Italy and therefore fasting and praying had been more proper then Musick and melodious singing Hereupon saith mine Author ignorance arose among the People lulled as it were asleep by the confused noise of many Voices This carried colour of advancing Devotion although it was no better as the case then stood then the Altar erected to the unknown God Acts 17. Hereby the Key of Knowledg was hid Luke 11. When the common People understood not what was sung and the heat of Zeal was quenched in Men of understanding whose Ears were tickled but Hearts not touched whilest as Saint Augustine complaineth of himself so most were more moved by the sweetness of the Song then by the sense of the Matter which was sung unto them working their bane like the deadly touch of the Aspis in a tickling delight or as the soft touch of the Hiena which doth infatuate and lull asleep and then devoureth if Service in the Latine or unknown Tongue whereof the simplest People understood somewhat was justly censured certainly this manner of singing Psalms and Service whereof the most learned can understand nothing is to be condemned I dislike not singing though by Musick of Organs and other Instruments but I wish that what is sung may be understood and as Justinian the Emperor commanded all Bishops and Priests to celebrate Prayer with a loud and clear voice non tacito modo that the Minds of the Hearers might be stirred up with more Devotion to express the Praises of God so wish I that Service and Psalms may be so Read and Sung that they may be understood and so edify the Mind as well as please the Ear. Now I am to declare that this Office doth neither tend to the Honour of God the propagation of Piety the advancement of Learning or benefit of the Common-weal but to the contrary as I have delivered rather to the dishonor c. But the Day being so far spent I will not assume too much boldness to press upon your Patience for further hearing thereof but will crave leave for further rendring thereof at fitter opportunity and for better conveniency In the Lords House the Lord Bishop of Winton reported the Conference delivered from the House of Commons touching the Canons made at the late Synod Then the Votes of the Commons being read The Lords Votes about the Canons the same with the Commons the Lords Voted the same verbatim viz. Resolved upon the Question That the Clergy of England convented in any Convocation or Synod or otherwise have no Power to make any Constitutions Canons or Acts whatsoever in matter of Doctrine and Discipline or otherwise to bind the Clergy or the Layety of this Land without Common consent of Parliament Resolved c. nullo contradicente That the several Constitutions and Canons Ecclesiastical treated upon by the Archbishop of Canterbury and York Presidents of the Convocations for the respective Provinces of Canterbury and York and the rest of the Bishops and Clergy of those Provinces and agreed upon with the Kings Majesties Licence in their several Synods begun at London and York 1640 do not bind the Clergy or Laity of this Land or either of them Resolved c. That these Canons and Constitutions Ecclesiastical treated upon by the Archbishops of Canterbury and York Presidents of the Convocations for the respective Provinces of Canterbury and York and the rest of the Bishops and Clergy of those Provinces and agreed upon by the Kings Majesties Licence in their several Synods begun at London and York in the Year 1640 do contain in them many matters contrary to the King's Prerogative to the Fundamental Laws and Liberties of the Realm to the Right of the Parliaments to the Property and Liberty of the Subjects and Matters tending to Sedition and of a dangerous Consequence Resolved c. That the several Grants of the Benevolence or Contribution granted to his Majesty by the Clergy of the Provinces of Canterbury and York Anno Domini 1640 are contrary to the Law and ought not to bind the Clergy This Day also a Bill against Ship-Money was read the first time Mr. Mr. Tailor discharged from the Tower Saturday June 12. Order about Disbanding the Army Tailor late Burgess of Windsor was also this day discharged from the Tower The Commons fell upon the Consideration of Disbanding the Army and it was Ordered That the Souldiers should be allowed Eight pence for every Fifteen Miles to be conducted 300 in a Company homewards and not more their Arms to be all taken from them and laid up at York Hull and other Convenient Places the Scots and English to be Disbanded at the same time A Petition was read Sir will withrington and Mr. Herbert Price Petition the House wherein Sir William Withrington and Sir Herbert Price made their humble Submission to the House and desired to be
Clergy-man no Dignitary whose Books have cost him a Thousand Pounds which when he dies may be worth to his Wife and Children about Two Hundred It will be a shameful reproach to so flourishing a Kingdom as this to have a poor beggarly Clergy For my part I think nothing too much nothing too good for a good Minister a good Clergy-man They ought least to want who best know how to abound Burning and shining Lights do well deserve to be set in good Candlesticks Mr. Hide I am as much for Reformation for purging and maintaining Religion as any man whatsoever but I profess I am not for Innovation Demolition nor Abolition Possibly the Reader will now be desirous to see this Bill which gave so much business to the Parliament and therefore I here present him with a Copy of it as I find it in the Paper-Office An Act for the Abolishing and taking away of all Arch-Bishops Bishops their Chancellours and Commissaries Deans Deacons and Chanters Arch-Deacons Prebendaries and Canons and all other their Under-Officers of the Church of England WHereas the Government of the Church of England by Arch-Bishops and Bishops The Bill against Episcopal Government and the Hierarchy of the Church their Chancellors and Commissaries Deans Arch-Deacons and others their Cathedral Officers have been found by lang experience to be a great Impediment to the perfect Reformation and Growth of Religion prejudicial to the Civâ—l Government of this Kingdom Be it therefore Enacted by the King 's most excellent Majesty the Lords and Commons Assembled in this present Parliament by the Authority of the same That from henceforth there shall be no Arch-Bishops Chancellors or Commissaries of any Bishopricks Deans Deans and Chapters Arch-Deacons Prebendaries Chanters Canons or Pety-Canons or any other of their Officers within this Church or Kingdom And every Parson that shall hereafter use or exercise any Power Iurisdiction Office or Authority Ecclesiastical or Civil by Collection of any such Name Title Dignity or Office or Iurisdiction to incur the Penalty and a Forfeiture contained in the Act of Premunires made in the 16 R. 2. That all which hereafter done by any Arch-Bishopricks their Chancellors Commissaries Deans Deans and Chapters Arch-Deacons Prevendaries Canons Petty-Canons or any other Office by Collection of any of their Dignities or Officers aforesaid shall be meérly void in Law any Statute or Ordinance heretofore made to the contrary any wise notwithstanding And that all Mannors Lands Territories Impropriations Houses Rents Services and other Hereditaments whatsoever of the said Arch-Bishopricks Deans Deans and Chapters Arch-Deacons Prebendaries Canons Petty-Canons which they or any of them have in Right of the said Churches or Dignities shall be disposed and ordered of in such manner sort and form as the King 's most excellent Majesty the Lords Temporal and Commons in this present Parliament Assembled shall appoint And be it further Enacted by the Authority aforesaid That all Ecclesiastical Iurisdiction fit to be exercised within this Church and Kingdom of England shall be committed to such a number of Persons and in such manner as by this present Parliament appointed Divers Papers were upon this occasion presented to the Consideration of the House of Commons and many even of the Presbyterians who were for altering some things yet were not for Extirpation of Root and Branch among the rest I find these two in the Paper-Office THe Agitation of change of Government in the Church A Proposition concerning Bishops and Ecclesiastical Affairs and Church Government in the House of Commons is a Business of so high a Consequence that it is necessary to prevent any Resolution by Voting their judgment alone lest that being brought up with prejudice to the Lords who are and ought to be equally interessed may also prejudice the Cause It is a doubtful Case in the heat of this dispute how farr the Commons may go in the Declaration of their Opinions in which if the Lords shall not concur it may prove a great Rock of offence between the two Houses Therefore 't is very requisite that the Lords of the Higher House do timely interest themselves in the discussion and before any Resolution in either House To this purpose the Lords may be pleased to make a Committee in their House for the Reformation of Church Affairs and Government and thereupon demand a Conference with the Committee of the House of Commons that the business may be handled by Consultation on both sides pari passu and gradu At this Conference the Lords may be pleased to propose these grounds 1. That neither by Example nor Reason in any Age or State Matters Ecclesiastical or Mutations in Church Affairs were ever alone determined by Lay-men 2. In the Primitive Church and most Ancient times matters of this nature were always debated in General Councils or National Synods in the blessed Reformation the business was agitated by a Choice number of Divines who communicated their proceeding with Reformed Divines abroad and admitted some Strangers into their Consultations for the satisfaction of their Brethren and Peace of the Church 3. The publick Enemy of our Religion will take infinite advantage at every Alteration and especially at any that shall be resolved above by Lay-men 4. It must of necessity produce a dangerous Schism in the Church if without all Respect of Edification and satisfaction to the Parties different in judgment any conclusion should be imposed upon both without their consent 5. It is impossible that any Resolution taken in Heat and Passion can be so permanent but that time will discover a Necessity of fresh alterations to the shame of the whole Reformation 6. It is necessary to proceed in such a way as may not be Scandalous to the Churches abroad and may give satisfaction to both Parties opposite and contending at Home and may be Honourable Durable Obliging and Fortified with the consent and agreement of the Ecclesiastick and the Authority of the Parliament To effect which it is most agreeable to true Wisdom and Policy that both Houses of Parliament determine and declare for the present that the Laws Established for Church Government shall be obeyed And because all things in the first Reformation could not be fore-seen or some things were necessarily for other respects overseen which Time and great Liberty and Light have discovered and which may now be more fitly taken into consideration That therefore both Houses may be pleased to move His Majesty for the calling of a National Synod I mean of a Select number of Divines of all three Nations subject to His Majesty equally and impartially chosen of Moderate and Learned Men of both sides in which may be discussed and resolved a setled and uniform Model of Government to be presented unto the Parliament of all the Kingdoms there to receive Strength and Approbation In which Assembly Godly Men and lovers of Peace assisted by the Spirit of God may doubtlessly be induced to receive satisfaction from one another in
hear read I shall take leave according to Custome to say something of what I have collected from the Sense of that House concerning the Crimes therein contained Here the Charge was read containing his Extrajudicial Opinions subscribed and Judgment given for Ship-Money and afterward a declaration in his Charge at an Assize That Ship-Money was so inherent a Right in the Crown that it would not be in the Power of a Parliament to take it away MY Lords Not only my Wants but my Affections render me less fit for this Employment for though it has not been my happiness to have the Law a part of my Breeding there is no man Honours that Profession more or has a greater Reverence towards the grave Judges the Oracles thereof Out of Parliament all our Courts of Justice are governed or directed by them and when a Parliament is call'd if your Lordships were not assisted by them and the House of Commons by other Gentlemen of that Robe Experience tells us it might run a hazard of being styled Parliamentum indoctorum But as all Professions are obnoxious to the Malice of the Professours and by them most easily betrayed so my Lords these Articles have told you how these Brothers of the Coyf are become fratres in malo how these Sons of the Law have torn out the Bowels of their Mother But this Judge whose Charge you last heard in one Expression of his excells no less his Fellows then they have done the worst of their Predecessors in this Conspiracy against the Common-wealth Of the Judgment for Ship-Money and those Extrajudicial Opinions preceding the same wherein they are joyntly concerned you have already heard how unjust and pernicious a proceeding that was in so publick a Cause has been sufficiently expressed to your Lordships But this Man adding Despair to our Misery tells us from the Bench That Ship-Money was a Right so inherent in the Crown that it would not be in the power of an Act of Parliament to take it away Herein my Lords he did not only give as deep a Wound to the Common-wealth as any of the rest but dipt his dart in such a poyson that so far as in him lay it might never receive a cure As by those abortive Opinions subscribing to the Subversion of our Propriety before he heard what could be said for it he prevented his own so by this declaration of his he endeavours to prevent the Judgment of your Lordships too and to confine the power of a Parliament the only place where this Mischief might be redrest Sure he is more Wise and Learned than to believe himself in this Opinion or not to know how ridiculous it would appear to a Parliament and how dangerous to himself and therefore no doubt but by saying no Parliament could abolish this Judgment his meaning was That this Judgment had abolish't Parliaments This Imposition of Ship-Money springing from a pretended necessity was it not enough that it was now grown annual but he must intail it upon the State for ever at once making Necessity inherent to the Crown and slavery to the Subject Necessity which dissolving all Law is so much more prejudicial to his Majesty than to any of us by how much the Law has invested his Royal State with a greater power and ampler fortune for so undoubted a truth it has ever been that Kings as well as Subjects are involved in the confusion which necessity produces that the Heathen thought their Gods also obliged by the same Pareamus necessitati quam nec homines nec Dii superant This Judge then having in his Charge at the Assize declared the dissolution of the Law by this supposed Necessity with what Conscience could he at the same Assize proceed to condemn and punish men unless perhaps he meant the Law was still in force for our destruction and not for our preservation that it should have power to kill but none to protect us a thing no less horrid then if the Sun should burn without lighting us or the Earth serve only to bury and not to feed and nourish us But my Lords to demonstrate that this was a suppositious imposed necessity and such as they could remove when they pleased at the last Convention in Parliament a price was set upon it For Twelve Subsidies you shall reverse this Sentence It may be said that so much Money would have removed the present necessity but here was a Rate set upon future necessity For Twelve Subsidies you shall never suffer necessity again you shall for ever abolish that Judgment Here this mystery is revealed this visour of necessity is pulled off and now it appears that this Parliament of Judges had very frankly and bountifully presented his Majesty with Twelve Subsidies to be levyed on your Lordships and the Commons Certainly there is no Priviledg which more properly belongs to a Parliament then to open the Purse of the Subject and yet these Judges who are neither capable of Sitting among us in the House of Commons nor with your Lordships otherwise then as your assistants have not only assumed to themselves this priviledg of Parliament but presumed at once to make a Present to the Crown of all that either your Lordships or the Commons of England do or shall hereafter possess And because this man has had the boldness to put the power of Parliament in ballance with the Opinion of the Judges I shall entreat your Lordships to observe by way of comparison the solemn and safe proceeding of the one with the precipitate dispatch of the other In Parliament as your Lordships know well no new Law can pass or old be abrogated till it has been thrice read with your Lordships thrice in the Commons House and then it receives the Royal Assent so that 't is like Gold seven times purified whereas these Judges by this one Resolution of theirs would perswade his Majesty that by naming Necessity he might at once dissolve at least suspend the Great Charter 32 times confirmed by his Royal Progenitors the Petition of Right and all other Laws provided for the maintenance of the Right and Propriety of the Subject A strange Force my Lords in the sound of this word Necessity that like a Charm it should silence the Laws while we are despoyled of all we have for that but a part of our Goods was taken is owing to the Grace and Goodness of the King for so much as concerns these Judges we have no more left then they perhaps may deserve to have when your Lordships shall have passed Judgment upon them This for the neglect of their Oaths and betraying that Publick Trust which for the Conservation of our Laws was reposed in them Now for the cruelty and unmercifulness of this Judgment You may please to remember that in the Old Law they were forbid to seeth a Kid in his Mother's milk of which the received Interpretation is That we should not use that to the destruction of any Creature which was
bind us to it Wherefore Master Whitlock my humble Motion is That we may draw up a short and round Manifesto to wait upon and affirm the Kings Declaration to be still managed by Advice of Parliament which will be safe for our selves more powerful and effectual for the Prince Elector I cannot tell what the present Age thought of it and account it one of the greatest blessings of Heaven that I was not then capable of thinking but certainly Posterity will see by this Speech a most notorious and manifest Collusion in these People who notwithstanding all the glorious pretences and zeal for this deplorable Family in which the Honour and Interest of the King and Nation were by their own Confession so deeply concerned yet never intended any more assistance to this distressed Protestant Prince then a few good and great words which was a cheap way and still reserving to themselves a starting hole to assist the King in this Affair only so long as he would follow their advice Mr. Hide Reports the Results upon the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy whereupon it was Resolved Votes concerning the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy c. That all the Lands Possessions and Rights of the Deans Deans and Chapters shall be committed to the hands of Feoffees to be nominated by this Bill Resolved c. That the Lands and Possessions of the Arch-Bishops and Bishops of England and Wales except Impropriations and Advousons shall by this Bill be given to the King Resolved c. That the Impropriations and Advousons belonging to the Arch-Bishops and Bishops of England and Wales shall be committed to the hands of Feoffees in the same manner as the Lands of Deans and Chapters are appointed to be And because the Prelates and Papists were to be coupled together in the Opinions of these People both in Guilt and Sufferings it was by Vote Reselved Vote against Papists c. That the Committe of 48 propound to the Select Committee of the Lords that no Papist hereafter may have the keeping of any Castle Fort Chase Forrest Park or Walk within England or Wales and that such as are in possession of such Castles c. As aforesaid may be outed thereof according to Law Post Meridiem It was Ordered by the Commons Order about Mr. Randal a Minister formerly ordered to Bedlam That one Mr. Randal a Ministerâ— now in the Goal at Ailesbury in the County of Bucks for words spoken against the Honour of this House who was by a former Order appointed to be removed from thence to Bedlam it is now Ordered that the said Mr. Randal shall be discharged and set at liberty presently upon the sight hereof The further Debate upon Mr. Saturday July 10. Further Votes about the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy Hide 's Report about the Bill for abolishing Episcopacy was this day reassumed whereupon it was Resolved c. That a competent Maintenance shall be allowed out of the Lands and Possessions of the Cathedral Churches for the support of a fit number of Preaching Ministers for the Service of every such Church and a proportionable allowance for the Reparation of the said Churches Resolved c. That such Ecclesiastical Power as shall be Exercised for the Government of the Church shall be transferred by this Act unto the hands of Commissioners to be named by this Act. The further consideration of this matter to be referred till Monday 9 of the Clock Bill for Tonnage and Poundage being passed Mr. Solicitor was ordered to carry it up to the Lords and to move their Lordships that the Royal Assent may be had with as much speed as may be and to move the Lords to expedite the Bill against Pluralities and for disarming Recusants This day Thomas Pain the Attorney Breach of Priviledge giving the Lye to a Peer that gave the ill Language to the Earl of Thannet who charged the said Pain with some Words which were reported to be spoken by him he told the said Earl That it was False and a Lye divers times together which being proved upon Oath it was Ordered That the said Pain be committed to the Custody of the Gentleman-Vsher for the present and this House will take the misdemeanor into further consideration Report of the Conference about the Ten Heads The Earl of Bristol reported the effect of the last meeting with the Select Committee of both Houses concerning the 10 Heads and delivered some Queries and Propositions which the House of Commons made viz. Whether the Colledge of Capuchins at Somerset-House should be sent away out of this Kingdom for they are conceived to be busie Men in giving Intelligence to Forreign States and the House of Commons are induced to believe so because they understand That the Letters of the Capuchins which were Imported and Exported in one Week came to 3 l. 10 s. the Carriage Next they conceive That there are some things contained in the Articles of Treaty of Marriage with France which are contrary to Law Concerning the Education of the Prince they said they would consult further of it Concerning Licenses granted to Recusants They desire His Majesty may be moved that none may be granted hereafter Concerning the removing of the Popish Recusant Ladies from the Court they say they mentioned no particulars but spoke in the General Concerning Pensions They desire that the King may be moved That no Papist beyond the Seas may have any Pension Touching that which concerns the Queen they conceive they have had no full answer yet Concerning their Explanation who are Active Papists they mean those Recusants that are Rich and have most Power in the Countries where they Live as well Peers as others which they desire may be disarmed according to Law Concerning the Popes Nuncio they say the House of Commons are preparing a Bill Concerning the Lord Lieutenants and Deputy Lieutenants considering the State of this Kingdom as it now stands the House of Commons desires they may be such Persons as both Houses approve of and that they may be enabled the more for the defence of this Kingdom there will be a Course taken for Supplying them with Monies out of the Subsidies and the House of Commons desires that the King may be moved to let them have such Powder out of His Majesties Stores as may be spared and they will pay after the Rate of ten Pence per Pound for it as soon as they can get money and further to move His Majesty that the Arms which have been taken from the several Counties may be restored to them and if His Majesty can spare any Arms out of His Store they will buy them to furnish these Southern parts The new Bill for Tonnage and Poundage being read the Third time in the Lords House and being put to the Question Another Bill for Tonnage and Poundag passed the Lords House An Order of the Lords for Relief of a Feme-Covert and her Children against a Husband refusing to
the honour and safety of the Kingdom This day the Bill Entituled An Act for the securing the True Religion The Bill for securing the true Religion c. rejected the Safety and Honour of His Majesties Person the just Rights of the Subject and the better discovery and punishment of Popish Recusants was read a Second time and after a long Debate of the House it was Resolved by the major part That this Bill be Rejected The Reader is to understand that under the glorious Title with which this Bill was guilded the main matter of it was the taking away the Peerage of the Bishops in Parliament which since they could not effect by the former Bill they thought to slide in under these specious pretences of preserving Religion c. but the House of Lords had too many Wise and Noble Just and Honourable Persons in it yet for the Faction to effect their Design After this the Lord Mayor of London and the Aldermen c. were called in to give an Answer to the Proposition for lending 40000 l. and the Lord Mayor signified That he hath already prepared 34500 l. part of the 40000 l. and the full Sum will be made up this night and further he acquainted the House that he hath received 18000 l. of the Poll-mony For which service and readiness in this business the Speaker gave the Lord Mayor and Aldermen and the rest thanks from this House The Earl of Bath reported the effect of the Conference about disbanding that the Commons delivered these four Resolutions Earl of Bath reports the Conference about disbanding 1. That the Ninth day of August next shall be the day appointed for the marching away of the Scots Army 2. That the mony due for relief of the Northern Counties is ready and that if they shall desire any reasonable assistance for the conveying of it they will be ready to assist them in the best manner they can 3. The House of Commons desires that the English Lords Commissioners may move the Scots Commissioners to put off the time for the payment of the 80000 l. part of the Brotherly Assistance till the first day of September next and that notwithstanding they will pay it sooner if they can 4. That after the Scots have declared their Assent of disbanding that then our Army shall be disbanded with all possible speed and the Horse to be first disbanded Upon which it was Ordered That this House doth agree with the House of Commons in all the aforesaid Resolutions and do further Order That the Lords Commissioners do resume the Treaty with the Scots Commissioners and prepare it for a Conclusion After the Conference with the Lords about the Disbanding the Commons fell into Debate concerning the Kings Journey into Scotland and it was Thursday July 29. Votes to desire a Vice-Roy during the King's absence in Scotland Resolved c. That the Lords be desired by this House in a Conference to joyn with this House in a Petition to His Majesty to appoint a Custos Regni or Locum tenens during his Absence out of this Kingdom and amongst other things in special to give him Power to give the Royal Assent in Parliament and to do such things as the King might do if he were present Resolved c. That His Majesty be likewise Petitioned That an Act of Parliament may pass to this Effect That such Commission shall not be repealed until His Majesties return from Scotland to the City of London or Westminster or be present in full Parliament Which two Resolves were communicated to the Lords at a Conference Upon Information this Day unto this House That Sir George Radcliff being now a Prisoner in the Gate-House Sir George Ratcliff has liberty to take the Air. was indisposed in his Health by reason of the closeness of the Place where he remaineth and that he was an humble Suitor to their Lordships that he might receive the Favor to go into the Fields with such Keepers as their Lordships should think fit It was Ordered That the said Sir George Radcliff shall have the Liberty by Virtue of this Order to go into Chelsey Fields or any other Fields near thereabout to take the Air for his Health at such times as he shall desire it The Earl of Bristol Reports the Scots Answer about the disbanding their Army which was read in haec verba Scots Commissioners Answer about disbanding the Army Whereas the Removal of the Scottish Army is desired against the 9th of August upon the Receipt of a Paper from your Lordships of the 22 of July we did immediately represent the same to the Lord General and Committees from whom we expect very satisfactory Answers by the Earl of Dumserling and Lord Lowdon and for hastning the disbanding we did in our Answer of the 21st of July desire that the Arrears might be then delivered and sent to New-Castle that we might finish our Accounts and pay our Debts in those Countries and be better prepared for our Disbanding but we conceive that the not timous delivery of the Arrears shall prove the greatest Impediment in our removal therefore We do remit to the Parliaments consideration to take some speedy course for sending of the whole Arrears As for the delay of the Payment of the 80000 l. we have also represented the same unto the General and Committees according to the days mentioned in our Paper of the 22 of July whereof we do expect an Answer by the Earl of Dumserling and the Lord Lowdon The Bill against Ship-Money being read a third Time this Day Act against Ship-Money passed the Lords Lord Majors Cause heard and referred and put to the Question it was resolved to pass for a Law After which the Lord Major and Aldermen and Commons of London were called in and asked Whether they had composed the Differences between themselves concerning the Election of the Sheriff But it being Answered That they had a meeting about it yet could not agree This House took the Cause into Consideration having heard the Objections on both Sides and at last appointed these Lords Committees viz. Lord Privy Seal Lord Chamberlain Earl of Bath Earl of Bedford Earl of Bristol to try if they could accommodate the difference between them and settle Peace amongst them if not to report the same to this House And their Lordships or any five or more to meet at 5 of the Clock this Afternoon in the Painted Chamber and the Lord Major and Aldermen and some of the Commons to be present Mr. Bagshaw Reports the Articles against the Bishop of Bath and Wells which were all read but are not entred in the Journal Friday July 30. But that the Reader may see they were of the same Leven with those against the Bishop of Ely and that indeed the Crime was being a Bishop I will subjoyn some Articles which an Informer one Mr. James a Minister in his Diocess exhibited against him whereby it will appear
Counties in this Kingdom but they conceive that their Names will be unacceptable and their Persons unwelcome and being thus Impeached to become Judges of Mens Lives and Estates will be a thing of great offence and distraction Therefore the House of Commons desired that all the Commissions granted to the Peccant Judges may be superseded and that their Names may be no more Vsed in Commissions and when the great Affairs now in agitation be dispatched they desired their Lordships to take their Impeachments into Consideration and proceed therein according to Justice Ordered That this House Consents to both these Requests of the House of Commons touching the aforesaid Judges This day the Lord Bruce was introducted with the usual Ceremonies his Patent bearing Date Aug. 2. 1641. Lord Bruce introducted The Earl of March reported to this House The Kings Answer about the Irish Acts. That His Majesty is pleased to like well of the Advice of this House concerning the staying of the Acts of Grace and Favour which were to be passed for the Kingdom of Ireland and will give order it shall be done accordingly until this House hath considered of the Letter sent to the Lord Keeper from the Speaker of the Lords House in Ireland Propositions of the Scots Commissioners and Answers of the English Lords Commissioners August 5. 1641. Propositions for the concluding the Peace with the Scots The Earl of Bristol reported the Propositions and Articles given in by the Scots Commissioners after the Lord Lowdon's return from the Parliament of Scotland which were read as followeth That the Treaty of Peace may be brought to a speedy and happy Close we do offer to your Lordships Consideration the following Particulars I. That as soon as the Scottish Army shall remove out of England to Scotland the English Garrisons of Berwick and Carlisle may remove simul semel II. Lest Malefactors who have committed Murder and the like Crimes crave the Benefit of the Act of Pacification and Oblivion for whom it is no ways intended there would be an Exception from the said Acts of all Legal pursuits intended or to be intended within the space of one year after the Date of the Treaty against Thieves * A Scotch word for Excommunicate Persons Horners Out-lawers Fugitives Murderers Broken men or their Receptaries for whatsoever Thefts Rifes Hardships Oppressions Depredations or Murders done or committed by them and all Lawful Decrets given or to be given by the Parliament or any Commissioners to be appointed by them for that effect who shall have power to Dignosce and take Cognition whether the same falls within the said Act of Pacification or Oblivion or not III. It is desired that the demand concerning the not making or denouncing War with Forreigners without consent of both Parliaments may be condescended unto by the King and the Parliament of England which is Ordained and Universally observed in all mutual Leagues which are both Offensive and Defensive and because the Wars denounced by one of the Kingdoms with Forreigners although made without consent of the other Kingdom will Engage them by necessary Consequence Or if the Consideration of this Proposition shall require longer time then the present Condition of the Important Affairs of the Parliament may permit and lest the speedy Close of the Treaty be thereby impeded it is desired that this Demand with the other Two Articles of the same Nature the one concerning Leagues and Confederations and the other concerning mutual Supply in case of Forreign Invasion may all three be remitted to Commissioners to be chosen by both Parliaments who shall have Power to Advise and Treat thereupon for the good of both Kingdoms and Report to the Parliament Respectively IV. It is desired That the Articles concerning Trade and Commerce Naturalization mutual Priviledge and Capacity and others of that nature already demanded may be condescended unto by the King and Parliament of England and namely that demand anent the Pressing of Men and Ships by Sea or Land Or if shortness of time may not permit the present determination of these Demands it is desired that the same except so many of them as are already agreed unto by the Commissioners for Trade may be remitted to Commissioners to be chosen by both Parliaments who shall have Power to Treat and Advise thereof for the good of both Kingdoms and to make Reports to the Parliament respectively and that the Charters or Warrants of the Scottish Nation for freedom of Shipping in England or Ireland from all Customs Imports Duties and Fees more then are paid by the Natives of England or Ireland granted by King James under the Great Seal of England upon the 11th day of April in the 13th year of his Reign and Confirmed by King Charles upon the 19th of April in the 8th year of his Reign may be Enacted and Ratified in this Parliament V. That the Extracts of Bonds and Decrets upon Record and Registers in Scotland may have the like Faith and Execution as the French Tabellons have in England and Ireland seeing they are of a like Nature and deserves more Credit and if this cannot be done at this time that it be remitted to the former Commission from both Parliaments VI. The manner of Safe Conduct for Transporting the Monys from England or Scotland by Sea or Land would be condescended unto in such way as the Charges be not Exorbitant and may be presently known VII The Tenor of the Commission for Conserving of Peace would be condescended unto together with the Times and Places of meeting and whole frame thereof the draught whereof when it is drawn up in England is to be represented to the Parliament of Scotland that they may make the like Commission and name their Commissioners for that effect VIII The Parliament of Scotland do join their earnest and hearty desires and craves the Parliament of England's Concurrence that none be placed about the Prince's Highness but such as are of the Reformed Religion IX That an Act of Parliament of Publick Faith for payment of the 220000 l. which is Arrear of the Brotherly assistance may be presently framed and expedited according to the Terms agreed upon X. It is desired that the Quorum to whom the Scots should Address themselves for payment of the 220000 l. be condescended upon XI That the Order for recalling all Proclamations made against His Majesties Subjects of Scotland be drawn up and intimate in due Form and Time with the Public Thanksgiving at all the Parish Churches of His Majesties Dominions XII It is desired That the Articles concerning the Castle of Edinburgh and other Strengths of that Kingdom may be understood to be that the same shall be disposed of for the Weal of the Kingdom as the King and Parliament shall think Expedient The English Lords Commissioners Answers THat upon the disbanding the Scottish Army the Garrisons of Berwick and Carlisle shall be removed according to the Articles of the Treaty in that
behalf The Second Article is condescended unto according to the Proposition added to the Act of Pacification The Third Demand concerning making of War with Forreigners with the other Two Articles concerning Leagues and Confederations and concerning mutual Supply and Assistance against forreign Invasion is agreed to be referred to Commissioners to be chosen by His Majesty and the Parliaments As likewise the Fourth Fifth and Sixth Articles concerning Trade Commerce Naturalization mutual Priviledges and Capacity and other of that Nature and the demands concerning the Extract of Bonds and Decrets and the manner of safe Conduct for Transporting the Monys from England to Scotland are all referred to be taken into Consideration by the Commissioners to be appointed by both Parliaments who shall have power to Advise and Treat thereupon and report to the Parliaments respectively It is just that the Tenor of the Commission for Conserving of Peace should be agreed on by mutual Consent but the closing of the Treaty not to stay hereupon but to be left to the Commissioners to be named To that desire concerning such as should be placed about the Prince the King hath already given a clear satisfactory Answer That there be an Act of Parliament of Publick Faith for securing the payment of 220000 l. which is Arrear of the Brotherly Assistance is just and order is given for it accordingly and it shall be Communicated with the Scottish Commissioners that it may be a perfect Security The Tenth for appointing a Quorum for attending the payment of the Mony is already moved to the Parliament and will be done as is desired The Eleventh Article is very just and order shall be given accordingly for recalling all Proclamations and for Publick Thanksgiving The Twelfth Article for the Castle of Edinburgh and other Strengths of Scotland is to be settled betwixt His Majesty and the Commissioners of Scotland or by His Majesty and the Parliament of Scotland Which being read this House approved both of the Propositions and the Answers and Ordered That they should be Communicated to the House of Commons â—o morrow morning Mr. Thursday August 5. Report of the Conference about the Custos Regni Pym Reports the Conference with the Lords concerning the Custos Regni Lord Privy Seal told them That the occasion of this Conference was the matter of a former Conference desired by this House wherein two Propositions were delivered concerning a Custos Regni Commissioners to be appointed in the Kings absence to Pass these Bills 1. The Act of Treaty 2. Any Bill for raising Mony as there shall be occasion 3. For raising of Forces for Service at Sea and Land to resist forreign Invasions or Seditions at home with all things necessarily incident thereunto 4. Any Bill for Tonnage and Poundage or other Duties upon the Exportation or Importation of Commodities 5. The Bill for the preservation of the Mines for Salt-Petre and making Gun-Powder for the defence of the Kingdom 6. A Power to Pass the Bill concerning the 8 Subsidies given by the Clergy A short Act to be drawn Authorizing the Passing of Bills to be conceived upon these Heads Lord Say said That the Lords intended not to conclude this House but that they might add what they should think necessary to be Expedited in the King's absence and that some Course might be taken that the Parliament might Sit till an Act might pass to Enable and Confirm this Commission The House was then acquainted That the Bishoprick of Durham County of Northumberland and Town of Newcastle are willing to take the Parliaments Security for Billet Whereupon it was agreed That the House is contented to pay with all speed unto the Scots Commissioners the residue of the 80000 l. which they have provided accordingly and desire that the Scots Commissioners give speedy notice thereof unto their General whereby he may apply himself to put the Army into a readiness to march away according to their promises immediately upon the receipt of the said Monys And this House desireth they will receive so much of the said Mony here as conveniently they can dispose of and the House is ready to send the Residue to Newcastle if they shall desire it This day one Mr. Smith Rector of Long-Ditton in Kent Mr. Smith a Minister sent to the Gate-house who was sent for as a Delinquent upon an Information given in against him by some of the Godly and Well Affected Party that he should say The House of Commons had undeservedly Imprisoned an honester Man than any of themselves in the Tower meaning the Arch-Bishop of Canterbury For which he was committed to the Gate-House Bill against Knighthood passed by the Lords Message from the Commons about disbanding This day the Bill to prevent vexatious proceedings touching the Order of Knighthood being read a Third time and put to the Question it was Resolved to pass as a Law A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Sir Philip Stapleton to let their Lordships know That they have considered of the disbanding of both Armies and are provided of Mony to effect it and that they have resolved to take the Publick Faith of the Scots for their disbanding Further That the House of Commons had made an Order That the Horse of the King's Army be first disbanded therefore do desire this House to joyn with them That the Horse of the King's Army be first disbanded and that forthwith To which after some Consideration the Lords agreed The Petition of the Creditors of Sir Thomas Dawes was read shewing A Ne exeat regnum awarded a gainst Sir Tho. Dawes That they stand bound with the said Sir Thomas for great Sums of Mony and they have Reason to fear that he will depart this Kingdom Hereupon it was Ordered That there shall be a Ne Exeat Regnum issued out against the said Sir Thomas Dawes The House of Commons being upon the Consideration of the King's Journey Friday August 6. Commons resolved to insist upon a Locum Tenens in the Kings absence it was Resolved c. That this House shall at a Conference with the Lords insist upon the King 's appointing a Locum Tenens during his absence The Bishop of Lincoln reports the Conference with the Commons about a Locum Tenens in the King's absence in these words That formerly the House of Commons had brought up a Proposition concerning a Custos Regni in the King's absence Conference about a locum tenens in the Kings absence of which they have received no Answer which makes them now renew it again as formerly and they do offer some more Reasons 1. Because that in the King's absence many Emergent Occasions may happen in Parliament or otherwise where necessary use may be of the King's Authority especially in these time when things are not yet so fully setled 2. That by all Presidents it doth appear That when a Parliament was Sitting in the King's absence there was a Custos
That they would not have done this but upon inevitable Necessity the Peace and Safety of both the Church and State being so deeply concerned which they do however declare to the End that neither any other Inferior Court or Councel or any other Persons may draw this into Example or make use of it for their Encouragement in neglecting the due observance of the Lords Day Which being read Sir Jo. Culpeper Ordered to carry up this to the Lords for their Concurrence was assented to Nullo Contradicente Ordered That Sir John Culpeper carry up this Order to the Lords and to acquaint their Lordships how it past Nullo contradicente and that if it pass so in their House to desire it may be so entred that it may appear to Posterity with what Vnanimous Consent both Houses of Parliament are solicitous for the due Observation of the Lords Day and likewise to desire of their Lordships That it may be printed as the Declaration of both Houses To which the Lords also assented Nullo contradicente Which being done it was ordered to be entred in the Journals and printed for Satisfaction to Posterity A Proposition from the French Ambassador This day the Earl of Warwick reported that the French Ambassadour was with him and desired his Lordship That he would acquaint this House That he desired leave for the Raising and Transporting of a Regiment of English Souldiers for the Service of the French King and in particular the Earl of Carnarvan 's Troop of Horse and he said if occasion requires hereafter to imploy them in the Service of the Palatinate the French King would add Ten Thousand Foot to them in that design Hereupon the House thought fit that the French Ambassadour set down his Proposition in Writing Duke of Lenox made Duke of Richmond and Introducted Monday August 9. and then present it to this House This Day the Lord James Duke of Richmond was with the Usual Solemnity Introducted his Writ bearing Date 8th Aug. 1641. Ordered That the Gracious Answer from his Majesty be entered in the Journal of the House His Majesty sent this following Message to the House That his Majesty forgot to tell the Houses yesterday one Thing That his Businesses are so well prepared in Scotland that he shall make no long stay there and intends to be back before Michaelmas A Message from his Majesty and it may be by the midst of September Concerning the Army which he is sorry is not already disbanded but upon the Word of a Prince he will do his best and hopes not without good effects for the speedy Disbanding thereof That besides the Bill for the Scots Treaty another Bill will come down from the Lords for securing the Government in his Majesties absence And his Majesties Command at this time is to signify his desire to the House that they pass both these Bills some time this Day that so his Majesty may give his Assent unto them His Majesty desires the speedy passing of this last Bill conceiving that the passing thereof may assist his Majesty in the desired disbanding of the Armies And that when his Majesty upon Saturday bid the Lords severally Farewel his Intent then was to both Houses which if they did not so understand it his Majesty now commanded to signifie it as his Intention therein A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Mr. Message from the Commons to have E. Pembroke made L. Steward and E. Salisbury L. Treasurer Hollis to let their Lordships know That they understand that the Lord Steward is to go beyond the Seas with the Queen and so is to resign his Staff The House of Commons desires their Lordships to joyn with them to move his Majesty that he may resign his Staff to the Earl of Pembroke who is a very fit Person for that Place And further he was commanded by the House of Commons to signifie That they have taken into Consideration the setling of the King's Revenue and because it will be requisite to have a Lord Treasurer that is a Person of Honor and Abilities they have Voted Nemine contradicente the Earl of Salisbury to be a very fit Person for that Place therefore the House of Commons desires that their Lordships would joyn with them to recommend him to his Majesty for that Place The Bill for the Commission from his Majesty to give the Royal Assent to certain Bills c. was passed the Lords and carried down to the Commons A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Sir Arthur Haslerig Bill for publick Faith for Brotherly Assistance passed the Lords who delivered from the House of Commons the Bill of Publick Faith for securing by publick Faith the Remainder of the friendly Assistance and Relief promised to our Brethren of Scotland which was read immediately three times successively and being put to the Question and it was Consented to pass as a Law Nemine contradicente The Bill for Regulating and better Ordering the Clerks of the Market being read a third time passed the Lords House Tuesday August 10. Clerk of the Markets Bill passed the Lords House Conference about the Commission to pass Bills in the Kings Absence A Conference having been desired by the Commons concerning the Bill to strengthen the Kings Commission for passing Acts in his Absence it was thus reported by the Lord Keeper That the House of Commons had returned the Commission and the Act to enable the Commission with some Amendments and desired that some Additions might be made both to the Commission and to the Act for the Commons conceive that they are both too Particular and not General enough which may be very prejudicial For 1 They find no President that a Parliament was ever Sitting without a General Power 2 It might be a dangerous President to accept of a Limited Commission by an Act of Parliament 3 There may happen Emergent Occasions for the Safety of the Kingdom which cannot be foreseen therefore 't is dangerous to accept of such a Limited Commission by an Act of Parliament His Majesty being come to the House The King passes Bills in the Lords House for Pacification c. and the Commons with their Speaker being come up according to the usual manner these following Bills were passed 1 An Act for the Confirmation of the Treaty of Pacification between the Two Kingdoms of England and Scotland 2 An Act for securing by Publick Faith the Remainder of the Friendly Assistance and Relief promised to our Brethren of Scotland 3 An Act for the free bringing in of Gun-Powder and Sal-Petre from Forreign Parts and for the free making of Gun-Powder in this Realm Memorandum His Majesty said he hoped that the Parliament would consider of a Bill for making of good Gun-Powder and for preserving the Sal-Petre Works for the Defence of this Kingdom and if they did not He professeth Himself to be clear of the Inconveniences which else will follow 4 An
Councel for his necessary Defence in Point of Law which may happen upon the Matter of High Treason of which he is impeached and in Point of Law and Fact upon the Matters of Misdemeanors of which he is Impeached That for the few Daies until the time of his Tryal he may remain in the Custody of the Sheriff of London where he hath remained a true Prisoner for almost three Quarters of a Year in whose House all his Collections and Papers are for his Defence And that he may have your Lordships License to go with a Keeper to Serjeants Inn to look out some Papers which he hath there and shall have Occasion to produce at his Tryal as also there to Confer and Advise with such Councel as your Lordships shall please to admit or Assign unto him And your Petitioner according to his bounden Duty shall allways pray for the continuance of your Lordships Honor and Happiness c. The Names of such Councel as your Petitioner most humbly desires are The Princes Attorney Mr. Recorder of London Mr. Herne Mr. Thorp Mr. Fountain Mr. Bierley Mr. Lightfoot Mr. Brome Subscribed Robert Berkley Before the House resolved of any Answer herein The Bishops withdraw being a mixt Charge the House was Adjourned into a Committee to consider whether the Bishops should not withdraw during the Agitation of this Business it being a mixt Charge of Treason as well as Misdemeanor after a long Debate the House was resumed and it was agreed That the Matter of Treason should be first Ordered at which the Bishops are to withdraw and when the Matter of Misdemanor come into Agitation they are to come into this House again to their Places Hereupon the Bishops withdrew themselves and after a long Debate it was Ordered That Mr. Justice Berkley shall have a Warrant for to bring such Witnesses as he shall have Occasion for to testifie for him at his Trial in Matters of Misdemeanors but not in Matters of Treason Then the Lords the Bishops were called in and the Lord Keeper declaring unto them the Sense of this Order they gave their Consents thereunto And further it was Ordered That the Princes Attorney Mr. Recorder of London Mr. Herne Mr. Bierly Mr. Thorp shall be assigned of Council for Mr. Justice Berkley in Point of Law which may happen upon the Matter of Treason and in Point of Law and Fact upon the Matters of Misdemeanor at his Trial the second of November next And that the said Justice Berkley shall still remain in the Custody of George Clerk Esquire one of the Sheriffs of the City of London where he is now and that he have Liberty to go to Serjeants Inn in Fleet Street one Day when he shall think good with his Keeper to look out some Papers which he hath there and shall have Occasion to use at his Tryal Then Mr. Justice Berkley was called in and the Lord Keeper pronounced the aforesaid Order to him for which he gave their Lordships most humble Thanks Mr. Warwick Reports Five Conge de Estires for new Bishops to be petitioned to be stayed That there were Directions given from his Majesty for the drawing up of Five Conge d' Eslires for the making of Five New Bishops viz. Dr. Prideaux Dr. Brownrick Dr. Holdsworth Dr. Winniff and Doctor King Upon which Mr. Strode moves the House to send up a Message to the Lords to desire them to joyn in Petitioning his Majesty for the staying the making of these new Bishops till the Charge against the other Bishops was dispatched This day Information was given into the House of Lords that since the Act for bounding the Forrest many Riots were committed upon the occasion of killing of Deer pretending they were not within the Bounds of the Forrest and that in Oxfordshire in one of those Fraies a Keeper was killed It was also moved that the Bill for disabling Persons in Holy Orders from exercising Temporal Jurisdiction might not be read at present it having been voted against as to the Substance in a former Bill this Sessions but it was Ordered to be read a second time to morrow Morning peremptorily Mr. Pym Reports the Reasons for Excluding the Thirteen Bishops Wednesday October 27 in Order to the delivering them at a Conference with the Lords and desires that Mr Solicitor may have the mannaging of the Business On the other Side Mr. Solicitor excused himself and desired that Mr. Pym might manage it whereupon it was to end the Contest Ordered That Mr. Pym and Mr. Solicitor should have the mannaging of the whole Business concerning the Bishops and accordingly they did so at a Conference with the Lords upon this Subject The Lord Privy Seal Reported the Conference yesterday with the House of Commons concerning Bishops viz. Mr. Mr. Pym's Speech at the Conference about Excluding the Bishops from Voting in the Case of the 13 Bishops impeached Oct. 27. 1641. Pym declared from the House of Commons That there is nothing of greater importance to the safety and good of the Kingdom then that this High Court of Parliament which is the Fountain of Justice and Government should be kept pure and uncorrupted from Corruption free from Partiality and by-respects this will not only add Lustre and Reputation but Strength and Authority to all our Actions Herein he said your Lordships are specially interessed as you are a Third Estate by Inheritance and Birth-right so the Commons are publickly interessed by Representation of the whole Body of the Commons of this Kingdom whose Lives Fortunes and Liberties are deposited under the Custody and Trust of the Parliament He said The Commons have commanded him and his Colleague Mr. Solicitor General to present to your Lordships two Propositions which they thought very necessary to be observed and put in Execution at this time 1. That the 13 Bishops which stand accused before your Lordships for making the late pretended Canons and Constitutions may be Excluded from their Votes in Parliament 2. That all the Bishops may be suspended from their Votes upon that Bill intituled An Act to disable all Persons in Holy Orders to exercise any Jurisdiction or Authority Temporal The first of these is committed to his Charge and he said he was commanded to support it with three Reasons First That the 13 Bishops have broken that Trust to which every Member of Parliament is obliged which Trust is to maintain 1. The Prerogative of the King 2. The Priviledge of Parliaments 3. The Propriety of the Subject 4. The Peace of the Kingdom And this Trust they have broken not by one Transient Act but by setting up Canons in Nature of Laws to bind the Kingdom for ever That the Canons are of this Nature appears by the Votes of both Houses and that they were all Parties to the making thereof appears by the Acts of that Synod The Book it self the Commons cannot tender to your Lordships because they sent for it but he that hath the Book in Custody
was out of Town but a Member of their own House upon View of it is ready to Depose that their Names were Entred among those that did subscribe to it Wherefore the House of Commons desire your Lordships in the first place to consider whether they that take to themselves a Legislative Power destructive to Parliaments be fit to exercise that Power of making Laws which only belongs to the Parliament Secondly Whether it be safe for the Common-Wealth that they should be trusted with making Laws who as much as in them lay have endeavoured to deprive the Subject of these good Laws which are already made A third Reason is this That they stand Accused of Crimes very hainous That is of Sedition Secondly of Subversion of the Laws of the Kingdom this will easily appear in the Nature of the Canons themselves as also by the Votes to which your Lordships and the Commons have already agreed Here the Votes of both Houses were read by Mr. Goodwin For the second Proposition he said That should be handled by one that will do it with more advantage of Reason and Learning then he could do therefore he would leave it to him Then Mr. Solicitor General informed their Lordships Mr. Sollicitor St. John's Speech at a Conference about Excluding the Bishops Votes That the Excluding of the Bishops from Votes in Parliament was not of so general Consequence as that by it the whole Clergy of England was Excluded 1. His first Reason offered was this That the Bishops did not Vote for the whole Clergy for that if it should be so then the Clergy of England should be twice represented and twice Voted for in Parliament This appears by all the Ancient Writs of Summons which till of late were to this effect A Writ of Summons went to the Bishop commanding him Summonire all the Clergy of his Diocess to appear by Proxies of their own chusing What to do Ad consentiendum iis quae de Communi Concilio Regni ordinari Contigerit So that if the Bishops do represent the Clergy then the Clergy are twice represented both by the Proctors and again by the Bishops Now although the Form of the Writs be altered yet the Reason holds and still Remains 2. If they Vote for the Clergy then they are to be Elected by the Clergy as the Members of the Commons House now are but your Lordships voting only for your selves need no Election 3. If they Voted for the Clergy as a third Estate then would follow that no Act of Parliament could be good where they did Dissent but many Acts of Parliament are passed where all the Clergy Dissented And the last he said that came to his memory is the Statute of 1 Eliz. Establishing the Book of Common-Prayer to which all the Bishops did Disassent * There is nothing plainer from this Entry then that the Bishops did Vote for else how could they be entred to disassent and yet he brings it for a president to prove they ought not The Entry in the Roll is Dissentientibus Episcopis and yet the Statute holden for a good Law to this Day This was offered to shew That it might not be conceived that the denying the Bishops to have Votes in this Bill now before your Lordships was of such general Influence as to take from the Clergy any Interest or Priviledges that formerly belonged to them 2. In the second place he said He was to present the sence of the whole House of Commons to your Lordships That the Prelates have not so absolute a Right of Peerage for voting in Parliament as the Temporal Lords have out of Parliament This appears by that of highest Consequence that they are not tryable by their Peers for their Lives but by an ordinary Jury In Parliament they have no Vote in Judgment of Blood Life or Member but if their Peerage were so inherent in them as it is in the Temporal Peers no Ecclesiastical Canons could take it from them Besides in point of Right it hath been Resolved by all the Judges of England 7 H. 8. in Kellaway's Reports That the King may hold his Parliament by the Lords Temporal and Commons without calling of the Bishops and that upon several Occasions especially concerning the Pope or themselves the Bishops have been excluded and their Votes not admitted herein He said He was commanded to offer some Presidents to your Lordships upon the sudden In the Parliament 25 of E. 1. The Bishops refusing to joyn with the Lords and Commons in granting of Subsidies for the good of the Kingdom this was holden at Bury Excluso Clero many Acts were then made never since questioned 35 E. 1. The Statute of Carlisle divers Petitions there exhibited by the Commons concerning the Prelates and Lords Abbots for oppressing the poor Clergy several Acts were made for their Relief but by whom By the King Earls Barons and other Nobles and the Commons only Now in respect the several Ranks of the Nobility are named * Ergo they did Vote and were not Excluded from that Right of their Peerage even in their own Case they did not consent because that in all other Acts where they do consent they are particularly named and if it be objected that they might be there and might give a Negative and therefore were not named among them that did consent it appears that Habito tractatu cum Comitibus Baronibus caeteris Communitatibus the King did Enact those things * This is gratis dictum not proved at all by the Roll. and never called the Bishops to the Debate this appears in the Parliament Book 20 E. 3. Parliament Roll N. 33. The Commons Petition that no allowance be made to the Cardinals that had been in France for Treating of Peace In the Roll it is thus Entred * Ergo the other did dissent Assented unto as reasonable by the Dukes Earls Barons and other the Lay Gents without ever naming the Bishops now the word others Lay Gents shews the Bishops were none of the number that Voted in that Law Secondly it was to be noted That in Acts where the particular Ranks are set down none of the Temporal Ranks have ever been omitted and if the Spiritualty had voted they should have been named though in Vote they had dissented Eodem Anno Num. 35 ad Num. 38. There being two other several Acts made upon Petitions of the Commons the one made against Provisions for some Cardinals and the other to restrain the carrying of Mony to Rome the Answer is made as before by the Dukes Earls Barons and Commonalty never mentioning the Lords Spiritual 3 R. 2. Cap. 3. 7 R. 2. Cap. 3. There are in Print Acts made by the King and Lords Temporal only without the Lords Spiritual The Statute of 7 R. 2. reciting the former Statute of 3 R. 2. which said our Lord the King by the Advice and common Assent of all the Lords Temporal and Commons being in
this Parliament Assembled hath ordained ut sequitur in the Act. And these Acts made by the King the Lords Temporal and Commons only were upon the Clamorous complaints of the Commons about the giving of the Benefices of England to strangers and others who never were Resident upon the Benefices This Report being made the House took the same into Consideration and for the better debate of the Propositions the House was adjourned into a Committee during pleasure And the Question was Whether those Thirteen Bishops that stood Impeached of those Crimes by the House of Commons shall be suspended from their Votes in this House until they stand Recti in Curia After a long debate herein the House was resumed and it is Ordered That the further Consideration of the Propositions which came from the House of Commons and the Bill entituled an Act for disabling Persons in Holy Orders to Exercise any Temporal Jurisdiction shall be both deferred until the Tenth day of November next A Message was brought from the House of Commons by Arthur Goodwin Esquire to let their Lordships know That whereas at a Conference Yesterday touching the Bishops which were Impeached for making of Canons the House of Commons did tell their Lordships That they had a Witness a Member of their House Mr. Wheeler to prove that the said Bishops did Subscribe to those Canons he having seen the Register Book with their Names written with their own Hands all which he is now ready upon Oath to prove if their Lordships shall rest herein satisfied the Register Book being in a House which is visited with the Plague The Reader will see by these Arguments of Mr. Solicitor St. John the utmost Strength of the Reason which they had to exclude the Bishops from their Votes and Peerage Now in regard the same thing has been again moved and the Arguments revived by the Successors of the same Faction who still retain the old Principles and Kindness to the Lords the Bishops looking upon them as a kind of Supernumeraries in the House of Lords who may well be spared and not as in reality they are a third Estate to stop the Progress so far as I am able of such an Error dangerous to the very being and Fundamental Constitution of our Parliaments I here present the Reader with a short Abstract out of the Learned Piece writ upon this Subject Entituled The Grand Question concerning the Bishops Right to Vote in Parliament in Cases Capital Stated and Argued c. I confess I have not followed the Author's Method nor was it possible to do it without great Inconvenience his Book being an Answer to some Papers writ against the Peerage and Jurisdiction of Bishops c. But I hope I have not done him or the Subject any Injustice by making use of the Matter and accommodating it more to my purpose which is among such Infinite Plenty and Variety of Matter to study all the conciseness and brevity I can I have therefore reduced the Subject to these four Heads First That the Bishops are Pares Regni Peers of the Realm and Peers in Parliament Secondly That they have a Right to Sit and Vote in Parliament in all Causes whatsoever even in Causa Sanguinis in Capital Cases Thirdly That the Lords Spiritual the Bishops are a third Estate in Parliament Fourthly To answer such Objections as have been made against their Peerage and Jurisdiction Which Abstract follows First Position That the Bishops are Pares Regni Peers of the Realm An Abstract of the Grand Question about the Peerage and Jurisdiction of the Bishops in Parliament Marculph Form lib. 1. c. 25. and Peers in Parliament The Author Learnedly proves That as soon as ever Christianity was settled in these Northern Nations Bishops were admitted into all publick Councils and Courts of Judicature So he instances in France from the Testimony of Marculphus That the King Sate in Judgment unà cum Dominis Patribus nostris Episcopis together with the Lords and Fathers the Bishops and that the greater Causes were heard by the King himself or the Comes Palatii Episcopis proceribus Assidentibus the Bishops and Nobility being Assessors with him In Spain during the Gothick Race of Kings the greatest Affairs of State were managed by the greatest of the Clergy and Nobility Concil Tolet. 4. c. 75.5 c. 7.6 c. 17. passim albi as appears by the several Councils of Toledo and particularly in the 13 Council Cap. 2. A case of Impeachment of Treason was brought before them And yet from one of these Councils of Toledo it is that all the Dust hath been raised and the Canon Law objected urged against Bishops That they ought not to be present or concerned in Cases of Blood In Germany Goldastus Rer. Alem. An. To. 2. the first Laws that were published by Lotharius were composed 33 Bishops 34 Dukes 72 Counts besides the People being present and assisting Arumaeus de Comitiis n. 35. c. 4. n. 98. and Arumaeus a Protestant Lawyer informs us that the Bishops of Germany Sate in the Diet in a double Capacity as Bishops and Princes of the Empire which Constitution he applauds as prudent for the Administration of Justice Honourable and safe for Religion In Bohemia Goldast Bohem. lib. 5. cap. 1. the same Goldastus a Protestant too acquaints us that there were three Estates prelates Nobles and Commons till the time of Sigismund In Hungary Decret Ladisl p. 12. so soon as ever the Christian Religion prevailed and was settled the Laws were framed by the King with the Advice and Consent of Bishops Nobles Staravols Polon p. 263. Herbart Stat. Regni Pol. p. 262. and the whole Clergy and People In Poland the Constitution of the Government is composed of the Bishops Barons and Delegates who are called Nuncii terrestres who are Summoned to the Dyet by the King and that with the entrance of Christianity as the publick Religion the Bishops entred into the Senate and had the first Seat in that Court Adam Brem de Situ Dan. n. 85. Loccen Antiq. Sueco-goth c. 8. Jus aulicum Norvey c. 3. c. 36. In Norway Denmark and Sweden the same Constitution entred with the prevalency of Christian Religion viz. Bishops Nobles Knights and Deputies In England after the Conversion of the Saxons during the whole time of that Monarchy there is not in all our Records one Council wherein the Bishops had not a part From whence the Author strongly Argues that it would be a very unaccountable thing that we of all the Nations of the Christian World who profess to have the best Government and the best Reformed Religion should Exclude those from any share in that Government who were by all others admitted into it as soon as they admitted the Christian Religion to be the publick Profession of their Country That the Bishops since the coming in of the Norman Race were always Esteemed Peers of the Realm and Peers of Parliaments
He brings several undeniable Presidents and Instances In the 21 of R. 2. a Repeal of a former Sentence against the Spencers being Petitioned for in Parliament Rot. 55.56.21 R. 2. these Errors were assigned Because the Prelats Who are Peers of the Realm did not Assent to the Judgment and because it was made only by the Earls and Barons Peers of the Realm c. And because it was made against the Great Charter of England in which it is contained that no man shall be exiled or destroyed but by the Lawful Judgment of his Peers or by the Law of the Land By which it appears that the Judgment of that Parliament was That it was a Breach of the Magna Charta for the Temporal Lords to condemn a Peer without the Assent of the Bishops who are expresly declared to be Peers of the Realm Rot. 55. To be Peers in Parliament Rot. 56. and to be Peers of the Realm in Parliament Rot. 61. And all this too in the Case of Treason which is as a full Declaration of their Peerage as it is possible to make To the Second Position That they have a Right to Sit and Vote in Parliament in all Causes whatsoever even in Causa Sanguinis in Capital Cases which he proves by Reason and Presidents That by the Magna Charta a Law of the Highest value Confirmed by Thirty Acts of Parliament and with the most Solemn and dreadful Imprecations upon whosever of them or their Posterity should go about to violate it in any particular the Bishops have an equal Right with the Temporal Lords That they Sit in Parliament by the virtue of the same Writs of Summons that the other Barons do they are Summoned to Advise and Debate about the great and difficult Affairs of the Kingdom cum Praelatis Magnatibus Proceribus dicti Regni nostri Angliae colloquium habere tractatum Of all things indefinitely that shall be brought before them in that High and Honourable Court the Supream Judicature of the Nation and that there cannot be any Instance produced of a Writ of Summons with a Limitation or Restriction upon the Bishops excluding them from any matter of Debate Consultation Vote or Judicature belonging to the House of Lords The Temporal Barons also are Summoned indefinitely to Debate Handle and Consult with the Prelats in all things there to be done which would be impossible if in some of the most Important matters in point of Judicature the Lords the Bishops must be Totally Excluded That though the Constitution of Clarenden be urged as designed for a Limitation of the Bishops exercising Jurisdiction in the Case of Life or Mutilation of Members yet it is evident both from the Words and the occasion of that Law that they ought to be present for that this Constitution of Clarendon was made perfectly to oblige the Bishops to serve the King in the Capacity of their Temporal Baronies sicut caeteri Barones the Tenure being the same Et sicut Barones caeteri debent interesse Judiciis Curiae Regis cum Baronibus usque perveniatur in Judicio ad diminutionem Membrorum vel ad mortem the plain Sense of which words is that they ought to be present not only till such Causes of Life or Limb came before the rest of the Lords but at all preliminary Debates usque perveniatur not ad Judicium but in Judicio which supposes a Trial preceding till the Sentence came to be pronounced Now the occasion of this was the Papacy was then erecting their fifth Monarchy and indeavouring to set up an Independent Jurisdiction of the Church in all Kingdoms which the Kings very well perceiving were resolved to oppose and therefore to oblige them to this Service by vertue of the Tenures of their Temporal Baronies And this giving them a Concession to withdraw when the Sentence â—â—as pronounced was a particular favour of the King Thomas Becket a great Saint and Martyr in the Roman Calendar stoutly opposed this as an inchroachment upon the Liberties of the Church and indeed the Bishops who had all along the Saxon Government sate in the great Councils by virtue of their Spiritual Capacity there being then no Temporal Baronies they thought the Conquerors imposing this Tenure upon their Estates a very hard Servitude and Badge of Slavery to the Secular Power but that notwithstanding their Reluctancy this Salvo seemed a little to qualify the matter so that they did Vote in such Cases till the Sentence came to be pronounced appears from Petrus Blesensis who taxes them of Collusion for submitting to this Constitution of Clarendon Principes sacerdotum saith he Seniores Populi Pet. Blesen de Inst Epic. p. 454. licet non dictent Judicia Sanguinis eadem tamen tractant disputando disceptando de illis seque ideo imnunes à Culpa reputant quod Mortis aut truncation is membrorum judicium decernentes á pronuntiatione duntaxat Executione Penalis Sententiae se abstinent Although saith he they do not give Judgment in Cases of Blood yet do they handle treat and debate about them and think themselves innocent because in the determinations of Cases of Life and Limb they absent themselves at the pronouncing or execution of the Penal Sentence This Statute of Clarendon was made in February and in the October following the King Summons a Parliament to Northampton Fitz. Steph. vit Tho. Becket de Concil apud Clarendon Mss in Bibliotheca Cottoniana in which Becket in which Becket was for opposing this Constitution wasting the Kings Treasure and other Crimes accused of Treason in the Debate whereof the Bishops Sate with the other Barons and because the matter did not come to a Sentence of Death after great Debate between the other Lords the Bishops about pronouncing the Sentence the Bishop of Winchester did it But Becket making an Appeal to the Pope the Bishops being afraid of him they endeavoured to persuade the King to desist his further prosecution till that matter was determined But the King being resolute pressed them to their Duty notwithstanding Beckets Prohibition to them to the contrary from the obligation of the Statute of Clarendon to which they had Sworn Asserens quod non teneat haec ejus simplex Prohibitio contra hoc quod Clarendoniae factum initum fuerat affirming that this single Prohibition of Beckets could not bind them against what was done and agreed to at Clarendon From all which it is plain that in fact the Bishops did Debate and Vote in a Capital Case and were obliged by this Statute so to do and it was a Favour indulged them to be absent at the giving of the final Judgment or Sentence of Death or loss of Limbs In the 5. H. 4. The Earl of Northumberland was in Parliament Impeached of Treason Rot. Par. n. 17.5 H. 4. and after Examination of the whole matter he clearly acquitted himself of the charge upon which it is said in the Record Et
the Leather must needs exceed both and Salt could be no less then that besides the inferior Monopolies which if they could be exactly computed would make up a great Sum. That which is more beneficial then all this is that the root of these evils is taken away which was the Arbitrary Power pretended to be in his Majesty of Taxing the Subject or charging their Estates without consent in Parliament which is now declared to be against Law by the judgment of both Houses and likewise by an Act of Parliament Another step of great advantage is this the living Grievances the evil Counsellors and Actors of these Mischiefs have been so quelled by the Justice done upon the Earl of Strafford the flight of the Lord Finch and Secretary Windibank The Accusation and Imprisonment of the Archbishop of Canterbury of Judge Bartlet and the Impeachment of divers other Bishops and Judges that it is like not only to be an ease to the present times but a preservation to the future The discontinuance of Parliaments is prevented by the Bill for a Triennial Parliament and the abrupt dissolution of this Parliament by another Bill by which it is provided it shall not be dissolved or adjourned without the consent of both Houses Which two Laws well considered may be thought more advantageous then all the former because they secure a full Operation of the present Remedy and afford a perpetual Spring of Remedies for the future The Star-Chamber the High Commission the Courts of the President and Council in the North where so many Forges of misery oppression and violence and are all taken away whereby men are more secured in their Persons Liberties and Estates then they could be by any Law or Example for the regulation of those Courts or terrour of the Judges the immoderate Power of the Council-Table and the excessive abuse of that Power is so ordered and restrained that we may well hope that no such things as were frequently done by them to the prejudice of the publick Liberty will appear in future times but only in stories to give us and our Posterity more occasion to praise God for his Majesties goodness and the faithful endeavours of this Parliament The Canons and the power of Canon making are blasted by the Vote of both Houses The exorbitant power of Bishops and their Courts are much abated by some Provisions in the Bill against the High Commission Court The Authors of the many Innovations in Doctrine and Ceremonies the Ministers that have been scandalous in their lives have been so terrified in just Complaints and Accusations that we may well hope they will be more modest for the time to come either inwardly convicted by the sight of their own folly or outwardly restrained by the fear of punishment The Forrests are by a good Law reduced to their right bounds the encroachments and oppressions of the Stannery Courts the extorsions of the Clerk of the Market and the compulsion of the Subject to receive the Order of Knighthood against his will paying of Fines for not receiving it and the vexatious proceedings thereupon for Levying of those Fines are by other beneficial Laws reformed and prevented Many excellent Laws and Provisions are in preparation for removing the inordinate power vexation and usurpation of Bishops for reforming the Pride and Idleness of many of the Clergy for easing the People of unnecessary Ceremonies in Religion for censuring and removing unworthy and unprofitable Ministers and for maintaining Godly and diligent Preachers through the Kingdom Other things of main importance for the good of this Kingdom are in proposition though little could hitherto be done in regard of the many other more pressing businesses which yet before the end of this Session we hope may receive some progress and perfection The Establishing and ordering the Kings Revenue that so the abuse of Officers and superfluity of expences may be cut off and the necessary disbursments for his Majesties Honour the Defence and Government of the Kingdom may be more certainly provided for The regulating of Courts of Justice and abridging both the delays and charges of Law Suits the setling of some good courses for preventing the exportation of Gold and Silver and the inequality of exchanges betwixt us and other Nations for the advancing of Native Commodities increase of our Manufactures and well ballancing of Trade whereby the Stock of the Kingdom may be increased or at least kept from impairing as through neglect hereof it hath done for many years last past For improving the Herring fishing upon our own Coasts which will be of mighty use in the imployment of the Poor and a plentiful Nursery of Marriners for enabling the Kingdom in any great Action The oppositions obstructions and other Difficulties wherewith we have been encountred and which still lye in our way with some strength and much obstinacy are these the malignant Party whom we have formerly described to be the Actors and Promoters of all our Misery they have taken heart again they have been able to prefer some of their own Factors and Agents to degrees of Honour to places of Trust and Employment even during the Parliament They have endeavoured to work in his Majesty ill Impressions and Opinions of our Proceedings as if we had altogether done our own work and not his and had obtained from him many things very prejudicial to the Crown both in respect of Prerogative and Profit To wipe out this slander we think good only to say thus much That all that we have done is for his Majesty his Greatness Honour and Support when we yielded to give twenty five thousand pounds a Month for the relief of the Northern Countries this was given to the King for he was bound to protect his Subjects they were his Majesties evil Counsellors and their ill instruments that were Actors in those Grievances which brought in the Scots and if his Majesty please to force those who were the Authors of this War to make satisfaction as he might justly and easily do it seems very reasonable that the people might well be excused from taking upon them this burthen being altogether innocent and free from being any causes of it When we undertook the Charge of the Army which cost above 50000 l. a Month was not this given to the King was it not his Majesty's Army were not all the Commanders under Contract with his Majesty at higher rates and greater wages then ordinary and have we not taken upon us to discharge all the Brotherly assistance of three hundred thousand pounds which we gave the Scots was it not toward repair of those damages and losses which they received from the Kings Ships and from his Ministers These three particulars amount to above 1100 thousand pounds besides his Majesty hath received by impositions upon Merchandise at least 400 thousand pounds so that his Majesty hath had out of the Subjects Purse since the Parliament began one Million and an half and yet these Men can be
Henry Vane Senior Knight Mr. Hollis Mr. Brown and Mr. Pym to draw up the same accordingly This Report being made and taken into Consideration the three Particulars concerning Privilege were Voted and it was 1 Resolved upon the Question Nemine contradicente Votes of the Lords and Commons concerning breach of Privilege by the King That the Privileges of Parliament were broken by his Majesties taking Notice of the Bill for suppressing of Soldiers being in Agitation in both Houses and not agreed on 2 Resolved upon the Question Nemine Contradicente That his Majesty in propounding a Limitation and Provisional Clause to be added to the Bill before it was presented unto him by the Consent of both Houses was a Breach of the Privilege of Parliament 3 Resolved upon the Question Nemine Contradicente That his Majesty expressing his Displeasure against some Persons for Matters moved in the Parliament during the Debate and preparation of that Bill was a Breach of the Privilege of Parliament The same Votes were also passed in the Commons House Then the Petition of the Lord Peirpoint was read as follows To the Most Honorable the Lords of the High Court of Parliament The Humble Petition of Henry Lord Pierpoint Humbly Sheweth THat whereas your Petitioner in heat of Debate L. Pierpoint's Petition let fall some unfitting Words which offended this Honorable House and drew upon him this Imprisonment Your Petitioner humbly confessing the Justice of his Restraint beseecheth your Lordships Pardon and pass over this his Offence and he shall ever acknowledge your Lordships favor herein H. Pierpoint Hereupon it was resolved upon the Question That the Lord Pierpoint shall be delivered out of his restraint this Night In the House of Commons besides the Debate concerning the Matter of Privilege of which before in the Conferences and Votes of the Lords House several Propositions from the Scottish Commissioners were read and upon the Question assented unto They were presented by Sir Philip Stapleton in five Papers in haec verba 1 As in our first Proposition Propositions from the Scots Commissioners for 10000 Men for Ireland we made offer of 10000 Men in the Name of the Kingdom of Scotland for a further Testimony of Our Zeal to his Majesties Service and Respect and Brotherly Affection to the Kingdom of England We declare That we will upon the Charges of the Kingdom of Scotland Levy and Transport those Men and not stand with our Brethren upon Conditions of Levy and Transport Mony which we very well know is usual in such Occasions and could not in reason have been denyed us and which will amount to a very considerable summ of Money 2 We desire that there may be 30000 l advanced to us of the Brotherly Assistance because there are great Arrears due to our Soldiers who will not willingly enter into a new Imployment unless they be satisfied with what is resting 3 We desire because we cannot unfurnish the Kingdom of Scotland of Arms Canon and Ammunition That what Proportion of any of these we send with our Army That so many and such a Proportion of each kind may be presently sent into Scotland to remain there till the return of what we take into Ireland which we shall give Assurance shall be restored we retaining so much of that which shall be sent into Scotland as shall be lost or spent of ours in the Service of Ireland 3 We desire That with all Expedition some Ships of War may be appointed to go to Lothyan Port Patrick or Ayr to Guard and Waft over our Soldiers whom we intend for Expedition to Transport in small Vessels and that these Ships shall attend at the Ports in Ireland where we land that they may be sent over again into Scotland to bring over to us any necessaries left behind and to go to and again betwixt those Coasts to keep the Passage free for Going and Returning 5 We desire That for every 1000 Foot we send into Ireland a 100 Horse be in readiness to joyn with them and that these be ordered to receive Instructions and Orders and in every thing to obey the Injunctions of our Commanders This Proposition was not fully Assented to but referred back to the Commissioners for the propounding a less proportion of Horse 6 By the Instructions sent by both Houses of your Parliament to your Commissioners in Scotland and which was sent by his Majesty from Berwick to the Council there they did beseech his Majesty to recommend to the Parliament of Scotland that they would take into Consideration the Matter of Wages and other Charges as they would have done for themselves We in this think we could not make particular Agreement with our Troops but desire you would let us know what entertainment you give to your own Commanders and Soldiers wherewith we shall be satisfied and acquiesce to any Order you shall take with them being willing to serve the Crown of England with the same Affection and upon the same Terms as if we were English Men born Sic Subscribitur A. Fullerton This Evening the House sate late and Candles were voted in House divided about Printing the Remonstrance and a very great Debate there was concerning the Remonstrance of the State of the Kingdom which was presented to his Majesty at Hampton-Court whether it should be Printed or not the House was at the last divided upon it with the Yeas were 135. with the No 83. Whereupon it was Ordered That the Remonstrance shall be forthwith Printed and Published Thus did these Men treat this excellent Prince with repeated Acts of Ingratitude for his transcendent Acts of Grace and were so far from being satisfied or contented that the King had given them so much that they advanced in Confidence to demand all And indeed were as the sequel will make it plainly appear resolved to demand still till the King must be necessitated either to deny then or divest himself of every thing but the shaddow of Imperial Majesty and Power that so they might have an Occasion to break with him and indeavour to wrest the Residue of Sovereignty which he had not parted with by plain force out of his Hands His Majesty now began to feel the effects of that unparalell'd Act 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 cap. 5. for perpetuating this Parliaments sitting during their own Pleasure and found in reality that by this Act of the highest Confidence by which he hoped as he saith in his excellent Book for ever to shut out and lock the Door upon all present Jealousies and future Mistakes some Men intended to shut him out of Doors himself and that the permitting them to go up to the Pinacles of the Temple of Prerogative gave them an irresistible Temptation to throw down his Majesty and the Monarchy from thence which fatal Act though in his own Words it was no Sin of his Will yet was an Error of too charitable a Judgment By the Printing and Publishing of this Remonstrance
the Lords Committees to joyn with them to consider of a Way for Securing of both Houses by Guards as aforesaid that they may come and return and remain in safety Hereupon the Lords Committees have Voted That it is fit and necessary that there should be strong and sufficient Guards from the City of London and adjacent Parts for the securing of both Houses that they may sit in safety Secondly Their Lordships have Voted That it is a legal way for the Houses to require the Sheriffs of Middlesex and London to attend for that purpose with the Posse Comitatus and that they will Report these Votes to the House of Commons accordingly And the Lords Committees meeting with the Committee of the House of Commons the 10th of this instant January were of Opinion That Guards are necessary to be placed before the Committee for Irish Affairs do sit at Westminster and for the manner of ordering of the Guards they referred it to the Common-Council of the City of London And their Lordships will Report to the House of Lords That the placing of those Guards for the safety of the Irish Committee is in their Opinion an acceptable service to the Common-wealth Which Report being made it was confirmed by the House and the several Votes approved and Ordered accordingly Then the Lord Steward Reported the Kings Answer touching the desire of both Houses concerning Guards which Answer was read in these words WE having considered the Petition of both Houses of Parliament concerning a Guard do give this Answer That We will to secure their Fears Command the Lord Mayor of London The Kings answer concerning Guards to appoint 200. Men out of the Train'd Bands of the City such as he will be answerable for to Vs to wait on the House of Parliament that is to say one hundred on Each House and to be Commanded by the Earl of Lindsey it being most proper to him as being Lord Great Chamberlain who by his Place hath a particular Charge of the Houses of Parliament and of whose Integrity Courage and Sufficiency none can doubt But the Faction of the Commons were resolved to have no Guard of the Kings but one of their own appointment Order for a Guard of the Train'd Bands to be Commanded by Major Skippon for upon a Vote of the Commons to this purpose it was Ordered That the Sheriffs of London and Middlesex be hereby required to send two Companies of the Train'd Bands of the City of London and County of Middlesex under the Conduct of Serjeant Major Skippon to attend both Houses of Parliament every day for security of the Parliament until both Houses do give order to the Contrary Directed to the Sheriff of the City of London and Middlesex A Message was brought up by Sir Philip Stapelton who brought up a Bill which had passed the House of Commons Intituled An Act declaring That the Lords and Commons may Adjourn themselves respectively to any Place 2. To let their Lordships know that the House of Commons are informed that there is at Hull a Magazin of Arms of the Kings for 16000. Men and proportionable Ammunition But in regard no great strength is in the Town and that the Countrey about is full of Papists ill affected The House of Commons desires their Lordships to joyn with them that some Companies of the Train'd Bands next adjoyning to Hull be forthwith put into that Town for the Safeguard of that Town and the Magazin there and the said Train'd Bands to be under the Command of Sir John Hotham Knight who hath the Command of that Town already by Patent from the King Whereupon it was Ordered Order for Sir John Hotham to keep the Town of Hull That some of the Train'd Bands of Yorkshire nearest to Hull in the said County under the Command of Sir John Hotham Knight shall with all speed be put into the Town of Hull for the securing of the Kings Magazin there and the said Town and hereof the said Sir John Hotham is by Virtue of this Order Commanded to perform accordingly And the said Sir John Hotham is to Command the Town and Forces therein and all Parties whom it concerns shall give their Obedience unto the said Sir John Hotham and his Ministers And lastly That Sir John Hotham or whoever he shall appoint under him shall not deliver up the Town of Hull or Magazin there or any part thereof without the Kings Authority Signified unto him by the Lords and Commons Assembled in Parliament Directed to Sir John Hotham the Elder The Vizor now began to drop off apace for the plain English of this and the former Order for a Guard was that the King was only to have the Name but the two Houses were to have the Substance of the Royal Authority And certainly no men ever moved by more Regular Steps towards Rebellion they had pretty well Exhausted his Majesties Stores for the Service of Ireland and now they were resolved to Secure the Rest The Tower of London hung still mightily in their Light and though the King had Displaced Lunsford yet Sir John Byron the present Lieutenant who was a Person of great Loyalty Courage and Gallantry was by no means agreeable to their Liking or Designs and therefore the next attempt was to get quit of him and a Confiding man a Creature of the Faction placed in that Important Command as we shall presently see Then the Act An Act for the Lords and Commons to adjourn themselves to any place passed the Lords declaring that the Lords and Commons may Adjourn themselves respectively to any Place was read twice and after a short debate a third time and upon the Question it was consented to to pass as a Law From whence it is observable that even this Parliament who had gotten an Act that they should not be Prorogued or Dissolved without their own Consent yet did not think they had Power without the Royall Assent to an Act of Parliament to Adjourn themselves to any other Place from Westminster whither they were by Writ Summoned to Assemble and Sit and which likewise is a Concession that it was so solely in his Majesties Power though not to Dissolve them yet to have Adjourned them to some other Place less Factious and Troublesom then at that time London was A Petition was presented this day to the Lords from the Inhabitants of Bucks as follows To the Right Honourable the House of Peers now Assembled in PARLIAMENT The humble Petition of the Inhabitants of the County of Bucks Bucks Petition to the Lords Jan. 11. 1641. SHEWETH THat whereas we hoped upon the happy Assembling of this present Parliament we should have had a speedy Redress of those Pressures we have for many Years been under but have been hitherto in great Measure Frustrated of your hopes by the strong Counter-working of a Malignant Faction whereby the perfecting of Reformation is hindred the endeavours of the House of Commons in great
the English who lived under them rise against them with great Malignity and joyn with the Rebels They defaced the Chargeable Buildings and profitable Improvements of the English to their uttermost Power They threaten all the English to be gone by a time or they will destroy them utterly and indeed they give out publickly That their purpose is totally to Extirp the English and Protestants and not to lay down Arms until by an Act of Parliament here the Romish Religion be Established and that the Government be settled in the hands of Natives and all the old Irish restored to the Lands of their supposed Ancestors These and other Miseries and Calamities the English and Protestants of all Conditions here do suffer which we cannot mention without horror and grief of Heart Besides in these high Disturbances and general mischiefs the Irish inhabiting on the Borders of the Counties of Meath and Lowth adjoyning to the Counties of Cavan and Monaghan do make daily Incursions on all the English near them and Rob and Spoyl them of all they have whereby many are utterly undon and ruined in their Estates The Rebels finding their numbers to increase which we are informed to be very many and in many Places insomuch as it is conceived that they are not less than thirty thousand already declared assemble themselves in great Parties whom notwithstanding we dare meet with far fewer numbers as we hope to be Armed and Horsed they for the most part being as yet meanly provided of any Arms or Munition but such only as they got from the English whom they Robbed and the Kings Magazins which they surprised They sent a Party of their men to the Town of Dundalk an antient Corporation which held firm to the Crown in all the times of the late Rebellions in this Kingdom When they approached the Town on Saturday last it was rendred up to them without a blow strucken in the defence of it They are now advancing immediately to Drogheda a Walled Town upon the Sea Coast within twenty Miles of Dublin and if they can prevail there it is conceived they will March immediately hither to Besieâ—e this City and Castle In this straight and therein our extream want of Money and Arms as well as men adding to our grief We conceived it became of absolute necessity to find means to imploy some strength as well to deter the Rebels and their Adherents as to countenance and if it be possible to preserve the good Subjects especially in these Parts And therefore having sent what Supplies of Arms and Munition we could to Drogheda we raised here a thousand Foot consisting of as many English as we could possibly gather yet a great part of them are Irish whom we are necessitated to trust and have Armed them and they are now Marched with two Troops of Horse towards Drogheda But if through the defection of these Irish in that Regiment or any other accident it should so happen as God forbid that the Rebels should prevail against them then considering the present State and Condition of this City we must utterly dispair of being able to keep it against the Rebels unless we be with all possible speed relieved from thence with Men Money and Arms and on the other side not to send forth those Troops would be extreamly Dangerous as giving not only too much heart to the Rebels when they should see themselves able to come so far without resistance but also great Discouragement and Terror to the well affected when they should see us unable to shew any strength for their defence We hold it our duties thus to acquaint your Lordships with the Lamentable State wherein this Kingdom stands that so his Majesty and the Parliament there may understand it and then we hope they will provide for relieving us Immediately with ten thousand Foot and one thousand Horse for the present well Armed and further Provision of Arms to furnish the Stores as also some able Commanders and one hundred thousand pound in money to pay them and answer other occasions here which being now speedily sent us may prevent the Effusion of very much English Bloud and the vast expence of Treasure hereafter which must of necessity be spent if we be not presently thus relieved We must also make known to your Lordships that upon this occasion many of the Noblemen and Gentry of the Pale coming to us for Arms as also many in this City and other Towns We held it the safest way to avoid their Suspition of our Jealousie of them and so we yielded to set some prime Men and some Counties also to have Arms and Munition for their defence against the Rebels upon deep professions of their Loyalty to the Crown who we hope will be a strength to us But however there was no safety to let them lodge any thoughts of Jealousie in us against them And our Issuing of Arms in that manner hath very much lessened our stores Sir Faithful Fortescue coming lately from Drogheda shewed us a Paper which he told us was dropped under a Stall at Drogheda and so was brought to him it seems to be a Declaration of some of the reasons pretended by the Rebels for taking up Arms which Paper we humbly offer to your Lordships here inclosed as also two Proclamations Published by us by occasion of this Rebellion since our last dispatch to the Lord Lieutenant The Lord Magwire and Mr. Mahown the two Principal Prisoners we have we should think fit to send into England for their more safety and to take a way from the Rebels all hope of delivering them from Prison by their coming hither to besiege this Place wherein therefore we humbly 〈◊〉 a speedy Signification of his Majesties or your Lordships good pleasure to be hastened unto us To quicken our Supplies from thence without which and that with all possible speed we cannot expect to live to give his Majesty an account of this Place We have now written our Letters to the Lords and Commons House of Parliament there and have for the particulars referred to these our Letters to your Lordships humbly beseeching your Lordships to Communicate them to both Houses yet so we hope as those Parts thereof which your Lordships may easily judge are fit to be kept secret and being published may discover our Disability to make defence and our Apprehensions of great and Eminent danger may not come to common view We have also so extreamly necessary it is sent this Bearer Richard Fitz Gerald Esq as an Express Agent or Sollicitor from this State to attend his Majesty and your Lordships that so by his Majesties gracious Interposition and your Lordships Mediation for us to the Parliament there the succors we expect may be seat us which if they come not immediately we crave leave to repeat it again and again the Kingdom will be utterly lost and all the English and Protestants in Ireland destroyed and so England instead of Subjects will have Enemies here who