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A27361 A iustification of The city remonstrance and its vindication, or, An answer to a book written by Mr. J.P. entituled, The city remonstrance remonstrated wherein the frequent falsifyings of the said Mr. J.P. are discovered, the many charges by him laid upon the remonstrance and its vindicator, disproved, and the parity and agreement of the remonstrance ... with the propositions, declarations, remonstrances, and votes, of both or either House of Parliament manifested / by John Bellamie. Bellamie, John, d. 1654.; Price, John, Citizen of London. City remonstrance remonstrated. 1646 (1646) Wing B1814; ESTC R4476 42,384 58

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