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A79750 The proceedings of the Commissioners of the Church and kingdome of Scotland, with his Majestie at the Hague. And the papers interchanged betwixt his Majestie and them, as they were reported in Parliament and the Generall Assembly. Appointed by authority to be published. Church of Scotland. General Assembly. Commission.; Charles I, King of England, 1600-1649. 1649 (1649) Wing C4251A; Thomason E566_11; ESTC R25607 22,979 29

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and to have the same power authority and Jurisdiction as absolutely and fully as any Parliament formerly hath had within the Kingdom in time by gone As likewise the 17. Act of the same Parliament intituled Act Statutarie appointing Parliaments to be holden once every three years wherein the appointing of the time places is to be the last Act thereof by the authority of the which Act the Parl. 1641 wherin his Maj. was present did meet and by the Act thereof appointed the first Tuesday of January in Anno 1644. to be the day of meeting and conveening of the next Trienuial Parliament His Majestie and the Estate Declaring that the publication of that Act should be a sufficient for conveening of the whole Members of Parliament as if all sooner Solemnities were used By Authority 〈◊〉 which Parliament the several subsequent Sessions of Parliament have conveened and have often by Treaties Letters and Messages solemnly been acknowledged by your Father and yet these are the Parliaments questioned by your Majesty wherein if you should insist it would be no less then to strike at the fundamental Laws of the Kingdom nor could the subjects there be in security of any thing while they possesse Were it not to make the gap wider we should particularly shew that your Majesties answer is so far from containing satisfaction to our Desires that it drives at the subversion of them all and the dissolving of that Solemn Covenant which for the good of Religion the honour and happiness of the King and the peace and safety of his Kingdoms was sworn and subscribed before the most high God by your Majesties good Subjects of both Kingdoms from which they wil not depart nor suffer themselves to be withdrawn by any trouble or difficulty that they can meet with But we do purposely forbear ●…ther to insist upon particulars desiring rather your Majesty to take the business again unto your most serious consideration and that laying aside the occasion of such dangerous debates it may please your Majesty to give the satisfaction desired to the just and necessary Propositions of your Kingdom of Scotland concerning Religion and the Solemn League and Covenant and the determination of matters Civil by the Parliament and matters Ecclesiastical by the Assemblies of the Church of that Kingdom That thereby your Majesty may gain not only the outward obedience but also the inward affection of your good people to your Royal Person Authority and Government which is the only way to unite and strengthen their hearts and hands and so to engage that Nation intirely to perform to your Majesty all the duties of faithfulness and loyalty But if by the instigation and perswasion of pernicious Councel your Majesty thus as we wish it may never enter into your Royal hear shall refuse and reject these reasonable desires wherein there is nothing asked but your Majesties assent to these things the particulars whereof have been by Parliament enacted before your Majesties coming to the Crown and by the people universally received and obeyed as Law as it wil be very grievous to them so it wil constrain them in such an extremity to do what is incombent to them for preserving Religion and the Kingdom from ruine and we are confident that it shall appear to the world with how much humility affection and Loyalty they have carried themselves towards your Majesty since the beginning May 22. June ●… 1649. Signed by the Commissioners of Parliament May it please Your Majesty AT your Majesties desire we did forbear to insist upon that first Paper which we offered to your Majesty and the removing of James Grantham as a person excommunicate by the Church and forefaulted by the Parliament of Scotland and now having received no answer nor satisfaction from Your Majestie ther●…nt but that be still presumes to intrude himselfe into your Majesties presence and pretending Commission from your Majestie hath given warrant to some Officers to Levie Forces which must be understood to be against the Kingdome of Scotland he having sent some of his compliers thither Therefore it is our humble desire that he may be discharged your Royal presence and Court and that your Majestie would be pleased to let us know whether any such Commis be granted to him or not at this time whilst we are expecting your Maj. answer to the desires of that Kingdom 〈…〉 Signed by the Commissioners of Parliament His Majesties Answer I Am much unsatisfied with your Papers of the first and second of this month in Answer to mine of the 29 of May finding by them th●… My real endeavours to give all just satisfaction to my good Subjects of Scotland are undervalued and misinterpreted and observing in them severall inferences opposing the naturall sense and true intent of what I have proposed with most intire intentions for the good of that Church and Kingdome and unseasonably stirring uselesse questions neither properly arising out of any thing contained in any of the former papers nor conducing to the Common Peace But neither these nor any discouragements shall prevstil with me to omit any thing that my tend to the Peace and Happines of all My good Subjects of Scotland To which I shal most affectionately to My utmost power upon all occasions apply My Self according to the duty which I owe to the Almighty God in the exercise of My Royal power for the good of My People in order whereunto I shall with covenient speed send you by the Expresse mentioned in My last Paper the more particular Answer I then promised I shall likewise more fully expresse My Self concerning the new matter contained in these Papers and shall particularize what I now complain of in them In the mean time I expect and require from all My Subjects of Scotland such obedience as is due to Me their King by the Laws of God of nature and of that Kingdom Signed C.R. Act of Approbation of the Commissioners their faithfulnesse and diligence in their Commission AT Edenburgh the fouretenth day of June 1649. The Estates of Parliament now presently convened in the third Session of this second Trienniall Parliament Having received from Iohn Earl of Cassils Alexander Brodie of that ilk Master George Winrame of Libberton and Alexander Jaffray Burges of Aberdeen Their Commissioners sent to the Kings Majestie The Report of all their proceedings with the King And read the papers delivered therewith to this Parliament And being fully satisfied with their Integrity Faithfullnesse and Diligence in contributing their utmost endeavours for prosecuting their instructions And for obtaining satisfaction to the desires of this Kingdome Doe therefore unanimously and heartily acknowledge their Faithfulnesse and Diligence and approve their proceedings And render to them the hearty thanks of this Kingdom for the sa●…e Sic Subscribiter ARCH IOHNSTOUN Cler. Regist. The Report of the Commissioners of the Church of their Proceedings with his Majesty at the Hague Made in the Generall Assembly Iuly 10. 1649. AS We were
our first Petition so soon as the rest of our Propositions were given in and judging his Majesties receiving of our Message and answering of all our papers without any quarrelling of our Commission whereof in every paper we made expresse mention to be a reall acknowledgement of us as Commissioners from the Church and not being instructed to break off all Treaty at the beginning upon dissatisfaction in such things as the Comissioners of Parliament so we also thought fit to proceed The man things we were instructed to propone to his Majesty were the Nationall Covenant of Scotland the Solemne League and Covenant of the three Kingdomes the Directory of Worship the Confession of Faith the Propositons for Presbyteriall government the two Catechismes as they were agreed unto by the Generall Assembly and Parliament of Scotland These six peeces we did bind together in a Book and delivered them to His Majesty speaking somewhat to the matter of every one of them and entreating that this Majesty would be pleased to read and peruse them all what ever scruple might arise in his mind from any of them we offered our best endeavour to satisfie him therein But our Positive desires concerning th●se Particulars we gave in on Thursday April 5. 15. in this Paper May it please your Majesty VVEE the Commissioners of the Church of Scotland hoping for an Answer satisfactory in reason to our first paper according to your Maje●…ies gracious promise do go on according to our Commission to signifie in the name of that Church that after their hearty prayer to God for his bles●ing on your Royall person and government It is their most earnest desire that it may be your Majesties pleasure to give ●hem assu●ance under your hand and seale of your ●pprobation of the Nationall Cavenant of Scotland subscribed by your Royall Grand-Father approven and enjoyned by your Royall Father in the Parliament of Scotland 1640. And of the Solemn League and Covenant which now for divers years the Parliaments and Generall Assemblies of Scotland the two Houses of the Parl. of England and the Assembly of Divines at Westminster after long and serious deliberation have unanimously found to be the best and necessary meanes of setling Religion of establishing the Throne and bringing back prosperity to your Majesty and all your three now lamentably distressed kingdomes also of the Directory of Worship Confession of Faith Catechisme and Presbyteriall Government of the Church agreed upon according to the word of God by the Assembly of Divines at Westminster and the Generall Assemblies of the Church of Scotland the Copies of all which we did the other day deliver to your Majesty Likewise that your Majesty would be pleased to subscribe the Nationall Covenant with the Solemn League and Covenant and give your Royall Assent to such Acts of the Parliament of Scotland as shall be offered to your Majesty for the establishing and enjoyning of the Premises in Scotland and to such Acts of Parliament as shall be offered by the two Houses of the Parliament of England for the establishing and enjoyning the same in England and Ireland and in the mean time that your Majesty would be pleased to lay aside the use of the Service-Book and conform the worship of God in your Royall Family to the Directory We are fully perswaded that your Majesties cordiall joyning with your loving Subjects in these meanes of advancing the Honour of God and true Religion shall procure from heaven the Lords powerfull assistance to b●ing your Majesty and your people out of the great tribulation and danger wherein both for the present are plunged We are also confident that your Majesties granting these most humble and earnest desires shall be a chief and effectuall mean to knit to your Majesty in all duty the hearts of all your good Subjects not in Scotland alone but every where else and shall loose to your Majesty none at all who either loves the truth of God or minds your Majesties happinesse above their own particular unjust interests April 5. 15. Subscribitur Cassils Robert Bailie Libberton Iames Wood Vpon Fryday the day following we received from his Majesty this short return C. R. April 16. I Desire for the reasons mentioned in my former papers to know whether the last papers I received from you contain the full demands and Propositions you or any of you have to make in reference to Church or State and if not that then you deliver what remains that I may consider of the whole and proceed accordingly April 16. 1649. To this on the Satturday we made this reply UNto the paper deliverd to us by your Majesty this day we do make this humble return that the last your Majesty received from us the Commissioners of the Kirk of Scotland doth contain the substance of all we have to demand of your Majesty the Grant whereof will make any other humble advice we are to propone most easie What the Commissioners of Parliament have to deliver in reference to the State we leave it wholly to themselves they being in a Commission and capacity altogether distinct from that which we have from the Church alone April 17. 1649. Cassils Robert Bailie Libberton Iames Wood. The dayes thereafter His Majesty and the Commissioners of Parliament interchang●d divers papers about points of State wherein we had no place to meddle in the mean while we were not idle but went about our instructions both by conferences with his Majesty and by frequent dealing with divers persons of quality whom we conceived to have ability or any opportunity to promove with His Majesty the Grant of our desires Also by answering sometimes even in Print a multitude of calumnies wherewith our malignant enemies with much artifice and malice did labour to poyson the ears of His Majesty and all about him against our Church and Kingdome But finding time to drive over and no answer according to our mind appearing we gave in on May 18. 28. the following Writ UPon the 5. 15. of Apr. We the Commissioners of the Kirk of Scotland did in their name present their humble and earnest desire of these things which they conceived necessary for the security of Religion for the establishment of your Majesties Throne and for putting of them in a confident expectation of the Lords blessing upon your Majesties Government since that time we have been alwayes waiting and often humbly moving for an answer but as yet none at all is given we cannot conceal but so long a delay hath affected us with grief so much the more as your Majesty hath declared your resolution to be gone from th●… on Thursday next which makes the time we have to consider what your Majesty shall be pleased to offer very short Wherefore with all humility and earnestnesse we do supplicate that without the losse of more time now at last we may have so gracious and satisfactory a return to our former papers as may make us leave your Majesty with joy and