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state_n a_o disquiet_v of_o themselves_o or_o any_o unmerciful_a disquiet_v of_o other_o for_o it_o be_v no_o disquiet_v to_o a_o just_a man_n to_o do_v justice_n and_o the_o disquiet_v of_o man_n in_o sin_n it_o be_v no_o unmerciful_a deal_n but_o a_o compassionate_a heal_a either_o of_o themselves_o or_o other_o the_o false_a prophet_n reclaim_v by_o stigmatise_v with_o wound_n in_o his_o hand_n will_v free_o acknowledge_v thus_o be_v i_o wound_v in_o the_o house_n of_o my_o friend_n zach._n 13.6_o friend_n be_v not_o unmerciful_a disquieter_n object_n the_o judgement_n of_o god_n which_o go_v forth_o as_o the_o light_n be_v not_o of_o the_o judgement_n of_o his_o hand_n but_o of_o his_o mouth_n for_o so_o he_o explain_v himself_o in_o that_o place_n of_o hosea_n i_o have_v hew_v they_o by_o the_o prophet_n
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be_v general_o typical_a not_o so_o moses_n his_o judicial_o especial_o those_o which_o have_v in_o they_o moral_a equity_n it_o be_v moral_a equity_n that_o blasphemer_n and_o apostate_n idolater_n seduce_v other_o to_o idolatry_n shall_v be_v put_v to_o death_n levit._n 24.16_o deut._n 13.5_o ahab_n forfeit_v his_o own_o life_n because_o he_o do_v not_o put_v benhadad_o to_o death_n for_o his_o blasphemy_n 1_o king_n 20.23_o 28._o and_o ver_fw-la 42._o yet_o benhadad_o be_v no_o israelite_n nor_o be_v his_o blasphemy_n blech_v out_o in_o the_o land_n of_o israel_n but_o the_o external_a equity_n of_o that_o judicial_a law_n of_o moses_n be_v of_o moral_a force_n and_o bind_v all_o prince_n to_o express_v that_o zeal_n and_o indignation_n both_o against_o blasphemy_n in_o such_o as_o fall_v under_o their_o just_a power_n which_o ahab_n neglect_v and_o against_o seduction_n to_o idolatry_n which_o ahab_n execute_v or_o else_o elijah_n or_o some_o other_o by_o his_o consent_n but_o 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evident_o demonstrate_v to_o the_o conscience_n from_o chap._n eighteen_o to_o this_o chapter_n twentieight_n five_o point_n negative_o and_o five_o point_n affirmative_o but_o because_o what_o he_o rehearse_v have_v be_v reverse_v in_o the_o reply_n to_o those_o several_a chapter_n i_o will_v not_o actum_fw-la agere_fw-la nor_o dictum_fw-la dicere_fw-la chap._n 29._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o twentininth_n chapter_n discuss_v the_o text_n in_o matth._n 15.14_o letter_n the_o second_o scripture_n bring_v against_o such_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n be_v matth_n 15.14_o where_o the_o disciple_n be_v trouble_v at_o the_o pharise_n carriage_n towards_o the_o lord_n jesus_n and_o his_o doctrine_n and_o relate_v how_o they_o be_v offend_v at_o he_o the_o lord_n jesus_n command_v his_o disciple_n to_o let_v they_o alone_o and_o give_v this_o reason_n that_o the_o blind_a lead_v the_o blind_a and_o both_o shall_v fall_v into_o the_o ditch_n answ_n of_o the_o letter_n christ_n speak_v not_o there_o to_o public_a officer_n whether_o in_o church_n or_o commonwealth_n but_o to_o his_o private_a disciple_n concern_v the_o pharise_n over_o who_o they_o have_v no_o power_n and_o the_o command_n he_o give_v to_o let_v they_o alone_o be_v speak_v in_o regard_n of_o trouble_v themselves_o or_o regard_v the_o offence_n which_o they_o take_v at_o the_o wholesome_a doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n as_o who_o shall_v say_v though_o they_o be_v offend_v at_o this_o wholesome_a say_n of_o i_o yet_o do_v not_o you_o fear_v their_o fear_n nor_o be_v trouble_v at_o their_o offence_n which_o they_o take_v at_o my_o doctrine_n not_o out_o of_o sound_a judgement_n but_o out_o of_o blindness_n but_o this_o make_v nothing_o to_o the_o cause_n in_o hand_n discusser_n to_o pass_v by_o this_o assertion_n of_o the_o privacy_n of_o the_o apostle_n in_o that_o the_o lord_n jesus_n command_v to_o let_v they_o alone_o that_o be_v not_o only_o to_o be_v offend_v themselves_o but_o not_o to_o meddle_v with_o they_o it_o appear_v it_o be_v no_o ordinance_n of_o god_n nor_o of_o christ_n for_o his_o disciple_n to_o have_v go_v further_o and_o have_v complain_v to_o and_o excite_v the_o civil_a magistrate_n to_o his_o duty_n which_o if_o it_o have_v be_v a_o ordinance_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n either_o for_o the_o vindicate_a of_o christ_n doctrine_n or_o the_o recover_n of_o the_o pharise_n or_o the_o preserve_n of_o other_o from_o infection_n the_o lord_n jesus_n will_v never_o have_v command_v they_o to_o omit_v that_o which_o shall_v have_v tend_v to_o these_o holy_a end_n defender_n reply_v 1_o to_o pass_v by_o the_o assertion_n of_o the_o privacy_n of_o the_o apostle_n it_o be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o courtesy_n and_o loathnesse_n to_o strive_v but_o out_o of_o defect_n of_o just_a pretence_n to_o make_v any_o colourable_a exception_n against_o it_o for_o though_o the_o apostle_n be_v call_v to_o a_o public_a ministry_n math._n 10._o yet_o it_o seem_v not_o as_o then_o to_o a_o constant_a office_n but_o to_o a_o transient_a administration_n pro_fw-la illa_fw-la vice_fw-la for_o that_o time_n their_o constant_a calling_n require_v to_o attend_v continual_o upon_o christ_n ministry_n to_o prepare_v and_o ripen_v they_o for_o the_o public_a constant_a office_n which_o they_o be_v to_o be_v call_v to_o after_o christ_n resurrection_n act_v 1.21_o 22._o beside_o in_o that_o transient_a administration_n they_o be_v not_o send_v to_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharise_n who_o be_v no_o bitter_a than_o wolf_n and_o fox_n but_o to_o the_o lose_a sheep_n of_o the_o house_n of_o israel_n matth._n 10.6_o and_o therefore_o the_o apostle_n not_o be_v send_v to_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharise_n they_o have_v no_o power_n over_o they_o but_o stand_v as_o private_a man_n to_o they_o reply_v 2._o and_o as_o they_o have_v no_o call_n nor_o power_n to_o correct_v or_o censure_v they_o themselves_o so_o neither_o have_v they_o a_o calling_n to_o excite_v the_o civil_a 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wise_a as_o serpent_n &_o innocent_a as_o dove_n beware_v of_o man_n etc._n etc._n mat._n 10.16_o 17._o the_o apostle_n therefore_o have_v receive_v this_o caution_n can_v not_o meddle_v with_o the_o scribe_n and_o pharise_n but_o trespass_n against_o this_o rule_n of_o serpentine_a prudence_n as_o much_o as_o for_o a_o flock_n of_o lamb_n to_o complain_v to_o a_o kennel_n of_o wolf_n of_o the_o wolf_n outrage_n yea_o christ_n himself_o be_v spare_v to_o reprove_v they_o himself_o though_o call_v to_o a_o public_a ministry_n till_o the_o last_o year_n of_o his_o ministry_n when_o his_o hour_n be_v come_v of_o departure_n out_o of_o the_o world_n as_o know_v they_o will_v not_o be_v able_a to_o bear_v it_o and_o their_o exasperation_n may_v have_v be_v some_o hindrance_n to_o the_o free_a passage_n of_o his_o ministry_n before_o his_o hour_n be_v come_v chap._n 30._o a_o reply_n to_o his_o chap._n 30
know_v it_o be_v out_o of_o question_n all_o persecution_n be_v unlawful_a whether_o by_o the_o church_n or_o the_o magistrate_n a_o unjust_a excommunication_n be_v as_o true_a persecution_n as_o a_o unjust_a banishment_n but_o if_o persecution_n be_v take_v more_o large_o and_o loose_o as_o it_o be_v by_o the_o author_n of_o the_o letter_n and_o by_o the_o discusser_n for_o any_o affliction_n or_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n whether_o good_a conscience_n or_o evil_a whether_o right_o inform_v or_o erroneous_a if_o that_o be_v the_o intent_n of_o the_o letter_n as_o it_o seem_v to_o i_o to_o bear_v witness_n against_o that_o than_o any_o testimony_n of_o scripture_n that_o justifi_v a_o lawful_a censure_n of_o false_a and_o erroneous_a teacher_n do_v evince_v the_o scope_n of_o the_o letter_n to_o be_v erroneous_a which_o be_v against_o all_o persecution_n for_o cause_n of_o conscience_n let_v therefore_o the_o discusser_n admire_v at_o his_o own_o admiration_n and_o 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to_o withdraw_v from_o the_o lord_n jesus_n discusser_n last_o from_o this_o perverse_a wrest_n of_o what_o be_v write_v to_o the_o church_n and_o the_o officer_n thereof_o as_o if_o it_o be_v write_v to_o the_o civil_a officer_n and_o state_n thereof_o all_o may_v see_v how_o since_o the_o apostasy_n of_o antichrist_n the_o christian_a world_n so_o call_v have_v swallow_v up_o christianity_n how_o the_o church_n and_o civil_a state_n that_o be_v the_o church_n and_o the_o world_n be_v now_o become_v one_o flock_n of_o jesus_n christ_n etc._n etc._n defender_n here_o be_v no_o wrest_v much_o less_o perverse_a wrest_n of_o any_o scripture_n at_o all_o from_o the_o church_n to_o the_o civil_a state_n i_o intend_v to_o apply_v the_o scripture_n write_v to_o the_o church_n and_o to_o the_o officer_n thereof_o no_o further_o then_o to_o other_o church_n and_o their_o officer_n the_o scripture_n upon_o which_o we_o call_v in_o the_o magistrate_n to_o the_o punishment_n of_o seducer_n be_v 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