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A60520 Of the distinction of fvndamental and not fvndamental points of faith devided into two bookes, in the first is shewed the Protestants opinion touching that distinction, and their uncertaintie therin : in the second is shewed and proued the Catholick doctrin touching the same / by C.R. Smith, Richard, 1566-1655. 1645 (1645) Wing S4157; ESTC R26924 132,384 353

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communion_n we_o ask_v by_o what_o external_a note_n we_o may_v discern_v this_o church_n spalatensis_n lib._n 7._o de_fw-fr repub._n cap._n 12._o num_fw-la 132._o to_o the_o true_a church_n twoe_o thing_n only_o be_v require_v to_o wit_n entire_a faith_n in_o christ_n and_o communion_n with_o all_o faithful_a that_o profess_v this_o faith_n confession_n of_o auspurg_n art_n 7._o to_o the_o true_a unity_n of_o the_o church_n it_o be_v enough_o to_o consent_v in_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o gospel_n and_o ministration_n of_o sacrament_n sadeel_v cont_n tur._n loc_fw-la 30._o true_a use_n of_o essential_a use_v of_o sacrament_n be_v essential_a sacrament_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n caluin_n 4._o iustit_fw-la c._n 1._o §_o 2._o unless_o under_o christ_n our_o head_n we_o be_v unite_v to_o all_o the_o other_o member_n we_o can_v have_v no_o hope_n of_o heaven_n there_o can_v be_v twoe_o or_o three_o church_n but_o christ_n must_v be_v divide_v and_o §_o 10._o ib._n departure_n from_o the_o church_n be_v denial_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n god_n so_o much_o esteem_v the_o communion_n of_o his_o church_n as_o he_o account_v he_o a_o renegade_n and_o forsaker_n of_o his_o religion_n who_o obstinate_o separate_v himself_o from_o any_o christian_a society_n which_o have_v the_o true_a ministry_n of_o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n see_v he_o also_o in_o joa_n 9_o plessie_n de_fw-fr eccl._n c._n 1._o we_o confé_v in_o the_o creed_n that_o the_o church_n be_v the_o communion_n communion_n the_o church_n of_o the_o creed_n be_v a_o communion_n of_o saint_n so_o also_o confessio_fw-la heluetica_fw-la c._n 17._o mulhusina_n art_n 5._o argetinensis_n c._n 15._o how_o then_o can_v the_o church_n which_o we_o profé_v in_o our_o creed_n be_v without_o communion_n king_n james_n resp_n ad_fw-la peron_n p._n 384._o damn_v and_o detest_v those_o who_o have_v leave_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o 4._o see_v junius_n in_o sub_fw-la ecclesiastico_fw-la c._n 4._o church_n and_o become_v schismatic_o casaubon_n exercitat_fw-la 15._o it_o be_v a_o undoubted_a truth_n that_o while_o pious_a people_n adhere_v to_o a_o lawful_a and_o true_a bishop_n that_o be_v a_o true_a church_n of_o god_n so_o that_o if_o any_o separate_v himself_o from_o that_o company_n it_o can_v be_v doubt_v but_o he_o be_v out_o of_o the_o church_n d._n potter_n sec_fw-la 3._o p._n 74._o whosoever_o profess_v himself_o to_o forsake_v the_o communion_n of_o any_o one_o member_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n must_v confé_n himself_o consequent_o to_o forsake_v the_o whole_a musculus_fw-la loco_fw-la de_fw-la eccles_n sec_fw-la 3._o believer_n the_o church_n be_v a_o communion_n of_o believer_n the_o true_a church_n be_v a_o communion_n and_o society_n of_o true_a believer_n perkins_n in_o explicat_fw-la symboli_fw-la col_fw-fr 794._o as_o long_o as_o any_o church_n go_v not_o from_o christ_n we_o may_v not_o separate_v from_o it_o the_o same_o he_o have_v in_o his_o reform_a catholic_a tract_n 21._o and_o protestant_n common_o who_o exclude_v communion_n protestant_n exclude_v schismatik_n who_o want_v but_o communion_n schismatik_n out_o of_o the_o church_n as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v l._n 1._o of_o the_o author_n of_o protestancie_n c._n 1._o and_o yet_o confé_v they_o want_v nothing_o but_o communion_n as_o be_v to_o be_v see_v ibidem_fw-la lib._n 2._o cap._n 15._o i_o will_v here_o add_v the_o confession_n of_o d._n potter_n sec_fw-la 2._o p._n 42._o schism_n be_v no_o les_fw-fr damnable_a heresy_n schism_n as_o damnable_a as_o heresy_n than_o heresy_n p._n 47._o voluntary_a and_o ungrounded_a separation_n from_o the_o catholic_a communion_n be_v without_o doubt_n à_fw-fr damnable_a schism_n and_o p._n 56._o whosoever_o perverse_o divide_v himself_o from_o the_o catholic_a communion_n as_o do_v schismatik_n his_o condition_n be_v damnable_a final_o whitaker_n controver_n 2._o qu._n 5._o c._n 17._o p_o 541._o say_v almost_o all_o our_o man_n put_v thes_n twoe_o note_n of_o the_o church_n to_o wit_n pure_a preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o lawful_a administration_n of_o sacrament_n and_o thes_n twoe_o we_o affirm_v to_o be_v true_a essential_a lawful_a use_n of_o sacrament_n be_v essential_a and_o certain_a note_n of_o the_o church_n and_o essential_a and_o perpetual_a symbol_n of_o the_o church_n and_o if_o lawful_a ministration_n of_o sacrament_n be_v a_o true_a and_o essential_a symbol_n of_o the_o church_n how_o can_v church_n be_v divide_v in_o ministration_n of_o sacrament_n and_o not_o be_v divide_v in_o a_o essential_a part_n 6._o hence_o it_o be_v evident_a that_o the_o protestant_a church_n which_o be_v divide_v in_o communion_n of_o sacrament_n and_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n not_o only_o in_o itself_o but_o also_o from_o all_o other_o church_n which_o they_o account_v true_a church_n be_v no_o such_o church_n as_o scripture_n father_n reason_n and_o themselves_o sometime_o propose_v unto_o us._n nether_a will_v it_o help_v which_o doctor_n potter_n say_v sec_fw-la 3._o p._n 67._o and_o sec_fw-la 1._o p._n 19_o and_o chillingworth_n c._n 5._o p._n 274._o that_o they_o be_v unite_v to_o all_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n in_o faith_n and_o charity_n for_o to_o omit_v that_o protestant_n can_v pretend_v union_n in_o faith_n with_o all_o member_n of_o the_o universal_a church_n but_o only_a union_n in_o part_n of_o faith_n because_o they_o pretend_v union_n only_o in_o fundamental_a church_n union_n in_o charity_n be_v not_o the_o essential_a union_n of_o the_o church_n point_n which_o be_v but_o a_o part_n of_o faith_n union_n in_o charity_n can_v be_v that_o union_n which_o the_o scripture_n and_o father_n put_v in_o the_o description_n of_o the_o church_n for_o the_o father_n the_o communion_n in_o scripture_n be_v in_o sacrament_n and_o prayer_n also_o by_o father_n scripture_n speak_v of_o union_n in_o sacrament_n and_o prayer_n the_o 3._o the_o sup_v n._n 2._o sup_n n._n 3._o father_n speak_v of_o such_o a_o union_n as_o be_v opposite_a to_o schism_n which_o be_v breach_n in_o communion_n of_o sacrament_n and_o public_a worship_n and_o saint_n augustin_n express_o speak_v of_o union_n in_o sacrament_n which_o he_o say_v be_v necessary_a to_o any_o kind_n of_o religion_n true_a or_o false_a and_o also_o of_o union_n in_o prayer_n for_o thus_o emerito_fw-la thus_o contion_n de_fw-fr gestis_fw-la cum_fw-la emerito_fw-la he_o speak_v to_o a_o schismatik_a do_v not_o say_v i_o have_v charity_n prove_v it_o we_o have_v one_o father_n let_v we_o pray_v together_o beside_o protestant_n themselves_o put_v the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n in_o external_a protestant_n and_o by_o protestant_n thing_n confessio_fw-la heluetica_fw-la cap._n 17._o the_o true_a concord_n of_o the_o church_n consist_v in_o doctrine_n and_o rite_n express_o give_v by_o god_n whereby_o rite_n they_o understand_v luturgie_n communion_n of_o the_o church_n be_v in_o sacrament_n and_o luturgie_n sacrament_n king_n james_n respon_n ad_fw-la peron_n pag._n 403._o communion_n among_o the_o faithful_a chief_o consist_v in_o public_a exercise_n of_o piety_n and_o chillingworth_n c._n 5._o p._n 265._o to_o leave_v the_o external_a communion_n of_o a_o church_n be_v by_o refuse_v to_o communicate_v with_o any_o church_n in_o her_o liturgy_n and_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n field_n lib._n 1._o c._n 15._o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n consist_v in_o prayer_n and_o dispensation_n of_o sacrament_n and_o l._n 2._o c._n 2._o say_v communion_n in_o sacrament_n be_v essential_a to_o the_o church_n so_o also_o ibid._n c._n 4._o and_o hooker_n lib._n 3._o p._n 130._o the_o communion_n therefore_o which_o be_v essential_a to_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v in_o rite_n or_o sacrament_n public_a exercise_n of_o piety_n liturgy_n and_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n nether_a ever_o yet_o do_v any_o protestant_n define_v the_o visible_a church_n to_o be_v a_o society_n in_o profession_n of_o faith_n and_o communion_n of_o charity_n which_o they_o both_o will_v and_o must_v have_v do_v if_o they_o have_v think_v communion_n in_o charity_n to_o be_v a_o essential_a part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n church_n communion_n in_o charity_n can_v be_v essential_a for_o a_o church_n 7._o but_o indeed_o it_o can_v be_v essential_a to_o a_o visible_a church_n first_o because_o it_o be_v no_o way_n prove_v but_o mere_o affirm_v by_o reason_n that_o protestant_n can_v pretend_v 1._o 1._o no_o other_o communion_n with_o the_o universal_a church_n for_o it_o be_v evident_a 2._o see_v c._n 13._o n_o 5._o l._n 2._o they_o have_v no_o communion_n with_o she_o in_o sacrament_n and_o public_a worship_n of_o god_n second_o because_o the_o essential_a 2._o 2._o part_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n must_v be_v visible_a as_o profession_n of_o faith_n be_v otherwise_o not_o the_o external_a church_n itself_o self_n but_o only_o some_o part_n of_o it_o shall_v be_v visible_a and_o communion_n in_o charity_n be_v nether_a visible_a