of_o many_o other_o church_n in_o the_o primitive_a time_n be_v enrich_v with_o all_o knowledge_n and_o in_o all_o utterance_n 1_o cor._n 1.5_o and_o the_o same_o person_n which_o have_v the_o gift_n of_o pprophecy_n in_o the_o church_n of_o corinth_n have_v also_o the_o gift_n of_o tongue_n which_o put_v upon_o the_o apostle_n a_o necessity_n to_o take_v they_o off_o from_o their_o frequent_a speak_n with_o tongue_n by_o prefer_v pprophecy_n before_o it_o 1_o cor._n 14._o from_o ver_fw-la 2._o to_o 24._o so_o that_o though_o all_o they_o may_v prophesy_v have_v extraordinary_a gift_n for_o it_o yet_o the_o like_a liberty_n be_v not_o allow_v to_o they_o that_o want_v the_o like_a gift_n in_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n none_o beside_o the_o priest_n and_o the_o levite_n do_v ordinary_o prophesy_v either_o in_o the_o temple_n or_o in_o the_o synagogue_n unless_o they_o be_v either_o furnish_v with_o extraordinary_a gift_n of_o prophessie_n as_o the_o prophet_n of_o israel_n or_o be_v 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unlawful_a for_o church-officer_n to_o meddle_v with_o the_o sword_n of_o the_o magistrate_n e._n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o n._n e._n so_o it_o be_v unlawful_a for_o the_o magistrate_n to_o meddle_v with_o the_o work_n proper_a to_o church-officer_n the_o act_n of_o moses_n and_o david_n who_o be_v not_o only_a prince_n but_o prophet_n be_v extraordinary_a therefore_o not_o imitable_a against_o such_o usurpation_n the_o lord_n witness_v by_o smite_v uzziah_n with_o leprosy_n for_o presume_v to_o offer_v incense_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a engl._n chap._n 17._o sect_n 5._o imberare_fw-la that_o be_v to_o rule_v and_o praedicare_fw-la that_o be_v to_o preach_v be_v not_o compatible_a that_o be_v can_v agree_v to_o one_o and_o the_o same_o person_n have_v be_v a_o rule_v case_n admit_v no_o contradiction_n in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 1._o page_n 13._o line_n 25._o quest_n 8._o you_o we_o even_o now_o mention_v ordination_n be_v then_o these_o officer_n which_o christ_n have_v appoint_v in_o his_o church_n to_o be_v ordain_v to_o their_o office_n answ_n church-officer_n be_v not_o only_o to_o be_v choose_v by_o the_o church_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n but_o also_o to_o be_v ordain_v by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n and_o prayer_n with_o which_o at_o the_o ordination_n of_o elder_n fast_v also_o be_v to_o be_v join_v platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 9_o sect_n 4._o quest_n 9_o but_o be_v not_o election_n alone_o enough_o without_o ordination_n answ_n no_o for_o as_o dr._n ames_n say_v election_n give_v jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la ordination_n give_v jus_o in_o re_fw-mi hooker_n mr._n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipilne_n part_n 2._o page_n 40._o line_n penult_n quest_n 10._o be_v then_o the_o right_n of_o ordination_n immutable_a answ_n that_o which_o be_v a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n that_o have_v divine_a institution_n and_o so_o become_v immutable_a unless_o christ_n himself_o repeal_v it_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 1._o page_n 7._o line_n 21._o but_o ordination_n be_v a_o fundamental_a point_n of_o religion_n heb._n 6._o lay_v on_o of_o hand_n be_v by_o a_o metonymy_n of_o the_o adjunct_n put_v for_o ordination_n mr._n hooker_n part_n 1._o pag._n 7._o l._n 21._o quest_n 11._o to_o who_o then_o do_v the_o power_n of_o ordain_v officer_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n belong_v answ_n 1._o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o rule_n cotton_n mr._n cotton_n and_o pertain_v to_o the_o presbyter_n mr._n cotton_n way_n pag._n 49._o l._n 4._o 2._o when_o the_o church_n be_v right_o constitute_v and_o complete_v with_o all_o the_o order_n and_o officer_n of_o christ_n the_o right_a of_o ordination_n belong_v to_o the_o teach_n elder_n the_o act_n appertain_v to_o the_o presbytery_n constitute_v of_o teach_v and_o rule_v elder_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 2._o pag._n 76._o l._n 1._o quest_n 12._o but_o what_o if_o there_o be_v no_o elder_n in_o the_o church_n who_o shall_v ordain_v the_o officer_n then_o answ_n in_o such_o church_n where_o there_o be_v no_o elder_n and_o the_o church_n so_o desire_v discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n we_o see_v not_o why_o imposition_n of_o hand_n may_v not_o be_v perform_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o other_o church_n platform_n of_o disc_n from_o n._n e._n chap._n 9_o sect_n 5._o quest_n 13._o be_v the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n to_o be_v dispense_v by_o the_o minister_n thereof_o only_o in_o public_a or_o in_o private_a also_o answ_n they_o must_v be_v dispense_v public_o in_o the_o presence_n hooker_n mr._n hooker_n and_o with_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o church_n solemn_o assemble_v it_o be_v not_o in_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n to_o confine_v preach_v to_o corner_n for_o wisdom_n cry_v open_o in_o the_o street_n prov._n 8.2_o 3._o and_o of_o old_a the_o church_n of_o the_o jew_n erect_v synagogue_n in_o every_o city_n beside_o the_o temple_n at_o jerusalem_n for_o the_o hear_n and_o preach_v of_o the_o word_n and_o the_o apostle_n as_o he_o compare_v the_o supper_n of_o the_o lord_n to_o their_o ordinary_a supper_n so_o he_o oppose_v manifest_o the_o church_n or_o congregation_n to_o the_o private_a house_n and_o declare_v that_o the_o lord_n supper_n shall_v be_v celebrate_v in_o the_o congregation_n as_o the_o banquet_n shall_v be_v keep_v in_o their_o private_a house_n yea_o the_o scope_n and_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n call_v for_o such_o a_o administration_n for_o since_o the_o sacrament_n be_v badge_n to_o show_v our_o separation_n from_o all_o other_o profane_a society_n and_o to_o signify_v our_o communion_n one_o with_o another_o visible_o in_o the_o profession_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o faith_n as_o our_o spiritual_a union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n our_o head_n myistcal_o therefore_o the_o administration_n of_o they_o shall_v be_v such_o as_o shall_v suit_v the_o nature_n of_o the_o ordinance_n and_o serve_v the_o end_n of_o it_o and_o therefore_o it_o be_v that_o in_o time_n of_o persecution_n when_o the_o church_n dare_v not_o nor_o be_v meet_v she_o shall_v show_v herself_o to_o the_o enemy_n yet_o not_o then_o be_v the_o word_n nor_o sacrament_n private_o preach_v nor_o administer_v neither_o yet_o aught_o to_o be_v for_o though_o they_o be_v do_v in_o the_o house_n of_o a_o private_a man_n yet_o because_o they_o be_v and_o aught_o to_o be_v administer_v in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o congregation_n there_o be_v neither_o private_a preach_n nor_o private_a celebrate_n of_o the_o sacrament_n mr._n hooker_n survey_v of_o discipline_n part_n 3._o pag._n 28._o line_n 15_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 14._o to_o who_o be_v the_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n of_o the_o church_n to_o dispense_v the_o sacrament_n answ_n a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o
give_v in_o wisdom_n and_o compassion_n to_o his_o church_n quest_n 1_o 2._o 3._o therefore_o how_o those_o church_n can_v be_v say_v to_o come_v near_o the_o rule_n and_o walk_v close_a to_o the_o rule_n who_o either_o have_v no_o officer_n at_o all_o as_o the_o church_n of_o h._n and_o the_o church_n of_o n._n or_o else_o content_a themselves_o with_o one_o officer_n a_o pastor_n have_v neither_o teacher_n ruler_n nor_o deacon_n as_o most_o of_o the_o gather_a church_n in_o england_n be_v this_o to_o walk_v according_a to_o rule_v be_v not_o this_o either_o to_o slight_v the_o compassion_n of_o christ_n in_o give_v these_o officer_n or_o to_o contradict_v the_o wisdom_n of_o christ_n and_o proclaim_v those_o office_n needless_a and_o useless_a which_o christ_n judge_v needful_a and_o useful_a and_o therefore_o appoint_v in_o his_o church_n 5._o ordination_n be_v a_o fundamental_a in_o church_n discipline_n and_o give_v the_o officer_n right_a in_o his_o office_n jus_o in_o re_fw-mi see_v quest_n 9_o 10._o therefore_o ordination_n be_v more_o than_o election_n which_o only_o give_v jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o quaere_fw-la how_o many_o minister_n of_o our_o gather_a church_n can_v have_v a_o full_a right_n and_o authority_n to_o administer_v all_o ordinance_n have_v only_a election_n of_o the_o people_n which_o give_v but_o jus_o ad_fw-la rem_fw-la and_o not_o ordination_n which_o give_v jus_o in_o re_fw-mi 6._o ordination_n be_v a_o act_n of_o rule_n and_o pertain_v to_o the_o presbytersy_n or_o presbytery_n que._n 11._o therefore_o not_o to_o the_o fraternity_n or_o body_n of_o the_o people_n 7._o the_o word_n and_o sacrament_n be_v to_o be_v dispense_v in_o public_a quest_n 1â—_n therefore_o why_o do_v many_o of_o the_o churchway_n so_o frequent_o baptize_v child_n in_o private_a 8._o the_o sacrament_n be_v badge_n to_o show_v our_o separation_n from_o all_o profane_a society_n and_o to_o signify_v our_o communion_n one_o with_o another_o in_o the_o profession_n and_o confession_n of_o the_o faith_n as_o our_o spiritual_a union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n our_o head_n mystical_o see_v quâ—st_n 13._o answ_n therefore_o the_o sacrament_n be_v note_n of_o the_o true_a church_n as_o the_o protestant_a writer_n have_v always_o maintain_v against_o the_o papist_n 9_o a_o person_n have_v his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n because_o he_o have_v a_o interest_n in_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n of_o which_o it_o be_v a_o seal_n quest_n 14._o therefore_o the_o church_n covenant_n as_o they_o call_v it_o give_v not_o a_o man_n his_o first_o right_n to_o the_o sacrament_n for_o that_o be_v not_o the_o covenant_n of_o the_o gospel_n nor_o be_v the_o sacrament_n a_o seal_n of_o that_o 10._o for_o the_o receive_n of_o the_o sacrament_n in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n it_o be_v sufficient_a that_o the_o party_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n not_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a quest_n 14._o therefore_o whether_o the_o congregation_n be_v constitute_v after_o this_o or_o that_o form_n by_o express_a covenant_n or_o not_o whether_o it_o be_v a_o independent_a congregation_n or_o a_o classical_a congregation_n it_o be_v all_o one_o if_o a_o man_n be_v a_o member_n of_o a_o visible_a congregation_n he_o come_v in_o a_o right_a order_n of_o christ_n 11._o it_o be_v requisite_a that_o those_o who_o be_v baptize_v and_o receive_v their_o member-ship_n in_o their_o infancy_n shall_v come_v to_o their_o trial_n and_o examination_n before_o they_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o supper_n and_o this_o examination_n may_v be_v make_v by_o the_o elder_n yea_o in_o some_o case_n it_o be_v necessary_a it_o shall_v be_v so_o and_o for_o all_o woman_n it_o be_v most_o warrantable_a and_o most_o without_o exception_n therefore_o such_o examination_n in_o presbyterian_a church_n be_v not_o sinful_a and_o unlawful_a nor_o deserve_v so_o much_o ignominy_n and_o scorn_n as_o some_o have_v cast_v upon_o it_o 12._o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n not_o only_o of_o our_o communion_n with_o christ_n and_o with_o the_o member_n of_o our_o own_o church_n but_o with_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n see_v quest_n 16._o therefore_o they_o who_o will_v partake_v with_o none_o but_o the_o member_n of_o their_o own_o church_n or_o a_o church_n of_o the_o like_a constitution_n nor_o suffer_v their_o member_n to_o partake_v in_o none_o but_o their_o own_o church_n be_v guilty_a of_o the_o great_a breach_n of_o christian_a love_n that_o can_v be_v unsaint_v and_o unchurch_v all_o the_o church_n that_o christ_n have_v upon_o the_o earth_n but_o themselves_o and_o with_o a_o kind_n of_o papal_a pride_n judge_v and_o as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o be_v excommunicate_v all_o other_o church_n contrary_a to_o their_o own_o principle_n that_o say_v no_o one_o church_n have_v power_n over_o another_o 13._o the_o wickedness_n of_o a_o minister_n do_v no_o way_n make_v void_a the_o act_n of_o his_o ministry_n nor_o give_v the_o people_n a_o dispensation_n to_o contemn_v it_o see_v quest_n 18._o 14._o the_o roll_a elder_n office_n be_v so_o clear_o and_o full_o ground_v in_o scripture_n as_o none_o can_v controvert_v it_o but_o he_o who_o spirit_n and_o apprehension_n be_v prepossess_v and_o forestall_v with_o prejudice_n quest_n 21.22_o 15._o the_o power_n and_o work_v of_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v very_o great_a and_o his_o office_n very_o needful_a in_o the_o church_n quest_n 23_o 24._o therefore_o they_o that_o will_v have_v none_o of_o these_o roll_a elder_n over_o they_o but_o leave_v all_o to_o themselves_o and_o their_o liberty_n and_o by_o this_o mean_n be_v not_o only_o single_a member_n or_o officer_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n and_o elder_n and_o all_o this_o generation_n of_o man_n cast_v off_o the_o lord_n government_n be_v son_n of_o korah_n who_o condemnation_n sleep_v not_o etc._n etc._n quest_n 24._o answ_n 1._o quaere_fw-la whether_o some_o other_o be_v not_o guilty_a of_o this_o as_o well_o as_o anabaptist_n familist_n etc._n etc._n 16._o if_o the_o roll_a elder_n be_v confine_v within_o his_o compass_n the_o wing_n of_o the_o pope_n and_o bishop_n will_v be_v clip_v and_o their_o power_n exceed_o impeach_v quest_n 25._o therefore_o there_o be_v neither_o truth_n or_o modesty_n in_o they_o that_o say_v the_o presbyterian_a government_n which_o be_v manage_v by_o roll_a elder_n as_o well_o as_o the_o congregational_a be_v as_o tyrannical_a as_o prelacy_n and_o as_o antichristian_a as_o popery_n 17._o it_o be_v the_o devil_n subtlety_n to_o disgrace_n divide_v pull_v down_o the_o roll_a elder_n quest_n 23._o let_v they_o therefore_o consider_v who_o work_n they_o do_v and_o what_o reward_n without_o repentance_n they_o be_v like_a to_o have_v who_o drive_v such_o a_o design_n 18._o deacon_n be_v officer_n institute_v by_o christ_n and_o needful_a to_o be_v continue_v in_o the_o church_n quest_n 26._o 19_o the_o maintenance_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o act_n of_o justice_n not_o mercy_n debt_n not_o alm_n quest_n 28._o 20._o officer_n and_o ordinance_n be_v bestow_v upon_o the_o visible_a church_n not_o for_o their_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a that_o be_v among_o they_o who_o good_a next_o under_o his_o own_o glory_n christ_n principal_o intend_v quest_n 29._o therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v not_o first_o in_o christ_n intention_n therefore_o the_o visible_a church_n especial_o the_o church_n of_o a_o particular_a congregation_n as_o such_o have_v no_o reason_n to_o boast_v herself_o in_o her_o privilege_n as_o the_o spouse_n and_o lacie_n and_o queen_n of_o christ_n see_v these_o and_o all_o other_o privilege_n be_v give_v she_o not_o for_o her_o own_o sake_n but_o for_o the_o sake_n of_o the_o elect_a chap._n v._o of_o church_n government_n and_o censure_n question_v 1_o who_o be_v the_o seat_n or_o subject_n of_o church_n rule_n or_o government_n answ_n church_n government_n or_o rule_n be_v place_v by_o christ_n in_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n discipline_n platform_n of_o discipline_n who_o therefore_o be_v call_v ruler_n the_o holy_a ghost_n frequent_o yea_o always_o when_o he_o mention_v church_n rule_n and_o church_n government_n ascribe_v it_o to_o elder_n whereas_o the_o work_n and_o duty_n of_o people_n be_v express_v in_o the_o phrase_n of_o obey_v their_o elder_n and_o submit_v themselves_o to_o they_o in_o the_o lord_n platform_n of_o discipline_n from_o new_a england_n chap._n 10._o sect._n 7._o quest_n 2._o how_o be_v church_n government_n to_o be_v consider_v answ_n church_n government_n be_v to_o be_v attend_v either_o in_o regard_n of_o the_o essential_o or_o circumstantial_o of_o it_o mr._n hooker_n part_n 1._o page_n 3._o line_n 18._o quest_n 3._o what_o be_v the_o essential_o of_o church_n government_n answ_n the_o essential_o require_v to_o the_o complete_n of_o church_n government_n be_v partly_o
bind_v notorious_a offender_n and_o impenitent_n under_o censure_n and_o to_o forgive_v the_o repentant_a mr._n cotton_n of_o the_o key_n page_n 13._o but_o yet_o this_o inquire_v and_o hear_v be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v as_o if_o the_o complaint_n be_v immediate_o and_o pro_fw-la primâ_fw-la instantiâ_fw-la to_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o church_n or_o fraternity_n no_o but_o it_o be_v first_o to_o be_v bring_v to_o the_o eldership_n prepare_v and_o ripen_v by_o they_o and_o by_o they_o relate_v to_o the_o church_n for_o the_o elder_n before_o that_o have_v not_o only_o examine_v the_o offender_n and_o his_o offence_n and_o the_o proof_n thereof_o private_o but_o do_v also_o public_o revise_v the_o head_n of_o all_o the_o material_a passage_n thereof_o before_o the_o church_n and_o do_v withal_o declare_v the_o counsel_n and_o will_n of_o god_n therein_o that_o they_o may_v right_o discern_v and_o approve_v what_o censure_n the_o lord_n require_v to_o be_v administer_v in_o such_o 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and_o therefore_o till_o he_o be_v reconcile_v to_o the_o church_n by_o the_o penitent_a and_o public_a acknowledgement_n of_o his_o sin_n before_o they_o he_o do_v abstain_v from_o the_o lord_n table_n according_a to_o the_o direction_n of_o our_o saviour_n who_o will_v not_o have_v a_o offender_n present_v himself_o nor_o his_o gift_n before_o the_o altar_n while_o the_o guilt_n of_o the_o offence_n of_o his_o brother_n lie_v upon_o he_o mat._n 5.23_o 24._o or_o as_o the_o priest_n in_o the_o law_n do_v forbear_v to_o eat_v of_o the_o holy_a thing_n while_o they_o lie_v in_o uncleanness_n leu._n 22._o 3_o 4._o or_o as_o one_o who_o lie_v in_o his_o uncleanness_n do_v rather_o pollute_v the_o holy_a ordinance_n of_o god_n by_o partake_v of_o it_o than_o receive_v any_o holiness_n from_o it_o mr._n cotton_v way_n of_o the_o church_n page_n 91._o line_n 26._o object_n but_o this_o seem_v to_o be_v but_o a_o voluntary_a act_n of_o the_o offend_a party_n this_o be_v not_o a_o church_n 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