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upon_o he_o to_o ordain_v a_o presbyter_n alone_o or_o without_o the_o concurrent_a imposition_n of_o many_o hand_n 33._o they_o no_o less_o than_o cyprian_a can_v say_v ego_fw-la &_o collegae_fw-la although_o i_o must_v tell_v you_o this_o be_v in_o the_o case_n of_o aurelius_n make_v a_o lector_fw-la and_o in_o that_o other_o testimony_n which_o you_o cite_v out_o of_o his_o epistle_n 58._o he_o speak_v only_o of_o the_o fraternity_n consent_n and_o approbation_n not_o of_o their_o concurrence_n in_o their_o act_n this_o be_v small_a game_n with_o you_o neither_o be_v it_o less_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n then_o of_o the_o council_n of_o carthage_n cum_fw-la ordinatur_fw-la presbyter_n etc._n etc._n when_o a_o presbyter_n be_v ordain_v the_o bishop_n blessing_n he_o and_o hold_v his_o hand_n upon_o his_o head_n all_o the_o presbyter_n that_o be_v present_a shall_v likewise_o lay_v their_o hand_n upon_o his_o head_n with_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n with_o 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