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A80164 Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici revindicatæ: or The preacher (pretendedly) sent, sent back again, to bring a better account who sent him, and learn his errand: by way of reply, to a late book (in the defence of gifted brethrens preaching) published by Mr. John Martin of Edgefield in Norfolk, Mr. Samuel Petto of Sandcroft in Suffolk, Mr. Frederick Woodale of Woodbridge in Suffolk: so far as any thing in their book pretends to answer a book published, 1651. called Vindiciæ ministerii evangelici; with a reply also to the epistle prefixed to the said book, called, The preacher sent. By John Collinges B.D. and pastor of the church in Stephens parish in Norwich. Collinges, John, 1623-1690. 1658 (1658) Wing C5348; Thomason E946_4; ESTC R207611 103,260 172

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equal_o with_o themselves_o engage_v against_o pope_n patriarch_n arch-bishop_n bishop_n with_o all_o the_o rest_n of_o those_o antichristian_a derivative_n and_o learned_a mr._n hudson_n have_v long_o since_o tell_v our_o brethren_n that_o by_o church_n catholic_n visible_a organical_a we_o mean_v no_o other_o than_o a_o habitual_a politico-ecclesiastical_a society_n body_n flock_n in_o one_o and_o the_o same_o sheepfold_n of_o the_o militant_a church_n in_o uniform_a subjection_n to_o the_o same_o lord_n the_o same_o law_n unite_v in_o the_o same_o faith_n and_o under_o the_o same_o baptism_n perform_v the_o same_o worship_n and_o service_n etc._n mr._n hudsons_n vindication_n etc._n etc._n p._n 127._o etc._n etc._n in_o kind_n concern_v which_o body_n we_o say_v that_o although_o the_o member_n of_o it_o be_v disperse_v far_o and_o wide_a and_o divide_v into_o several_a part_n place_n society_n and_o secondary_a
combination_n of_o vicinity_n or_o parish_n for_o actual_a constant_a enjoyment_n of_o ordinance_n as_o particular_a corporation_n in_o a_o kingdom_n be_v yet_o still_o those_o ordinance_n administration_n admission_n ejection_n have_v influence_n upon_o and_o into_o the_o whole_a body_n as_o it_o be_v a_o polity_n and_o the_o member_n of_o any_o part_n indefinite_o may_v of_o right_a communicate_v one_o with_o another_o yea_o any_o company_n of_o christian_n may_v though_o every_o person_n so_o meet_v and_o that_o but_o occasional_o may_v be_v of_o a_o several_a particular_a church_n and_o the_o minister_n dispense_n a_o particular_a pastor_n to_o none_o of_o they_o all_o yea_o though_o none_o of_o they_o all_o be_v fix_v member_n to_o any_o particular_a congregation_n nor_o the_o minister_n dispense_n fix_v in_o any_o particular_a congregation_n and_o this_o by_o virtue_n of_o their_o general_a membership_n and_o of_o the_o habitual_a indefiniteness_n of_o the_o minister_n office_n 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write_v over_o his_o head_n this_o be_v the_o presbyterian_o catholic_n church_n and_o then_o crucify_a he_o with_o argument_n which_o we_o be_v not_o concern_v in_o but_o as_o mr._n hudson_n proceed_v as_o in_o other_o thing_n christ_n kingdom_n be_v not_o of_o this_o world_n nor_o like_v unto_o worldly_a polity_n so_o neither_o in_o this_o but_o every_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n in_o his_o particular_a place_n serve_v the_o church_n catholic_n admit_v of_o member_n into_o a_o general_a freedom_n in_o it_o eject_v from_o general_a communion_n with_o it_o he_o pray_v public_o for_o the_o whole_a body_n and_o manage_v his_o particular_a charge_n in_o reference_n to_o &_o so_o as_o may_v stand_v with_o the_o good_a of_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o which_o his_o congregation_n be_v but_o a_o member_n the_o ordinance_n there_o administer_v be_v the_o ordinance_n give_v to_o the_o whole_a not_o as_o a_o genus_fw-la which_o be_v but_o a_o notion_n and_o can_v have_v no_o ordinance_n give_v to_o it_o but_o as_o unto_o a_o spiritual_a kind_n of_o a_o habitual_a body_n and_o organical_a polity_n as_o to_o a_o sort_n of_o man_n so_o and_o so_o qualify_v bind_v up_o in_o a_o union_n and_o unity_n of_o the_o same_o head_n law_n seal_n worship_n communion_n thus_o have_v we_o discover_v our_o mind_n before_o our_o brethren_n publish_v this_o boook_v and_o it_o have_v be_v fair_a for_o they_o to_o have_v dispute_v against_o this_o not_o to_o deceive_v their_o reader_n with_o fallacy_n exit_fw-la ignoratione_n elenchi_fw-la as_o logician_n speak_v dispute_v against_o what_o their_o adversary_n do_v not_o say_v in_o this_o sense_n we_o say_v the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n correlate_v to_o the_o universal_a church_n and_o what_o ever_o our_o brethren_n say_v in_o practice_n they_o will_v own_v this_o for_o 1._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v of_o our_o brethren_n whether_o one_o church_n may_v according_o to_o gospel_n rule_v receive_v into_o her_o bosom_n one_o whiom_n another_o church_n have_v cast_v out_o if_o not_o the_o officer_n that_o cast_v out_o do_v not_o only_o eject_v from_o the_o communion_n of_o that_o particular_a church_n but_o of_o all_o particular_a church_n and_o so_o consequent_o from_o the_o universal_a church_n which_o be_v but_o a_o whole_a make_v up_o of_o those_o part_n 2._o while_o our_o brother_n baptize_v into_o their_o particular_a church_n i_o wonder_v whether_o they_o do_v not_o also_o baptise_v into_o any_o other_o particular_a church_n if_o not_o when_o any_o person_n so_o baptize_v be_v translate_v into_o another_o church_n why_o be_v he_o not_o again_o baptise_a his_o relation_n to_o the_o former_a church_n cease_v 3._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v with_o what_o consistency_n of_o principle_n our_o brethren_n say_v a_o minister_n or_o pastor_n be_v in_o office_n only_o to_o a_o particular_a church_n and_o yet_o say_v he_o that_o be_v in_o office_n to_o this_o church_n may_v administer_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o supper_n to_o the_o member_n of_o another_o church_n oh_o but_o they_o do_v this_o they_o tell_v we_o by_o a_o communion_n of_o church_n by_o a_o communion_n of_o membership_n only_o or_o of_o office_n and_o officer_n only_o the_o first_o alone_o may_v give_v the_o member_n a_o right_a to_o take_v but_o not_o the_o officer_n a_o right_a to_o give_v except_o there_o be_v also_o a_o mutual_a communication_n or_o communion_n of_o office_n and_o officer_n and_o act_n of_o office_n 4._o although_o these_o 2_o or_o 3_o brethren_n somewhere_o indeed_o say_v that_o when_o the_o pastor_n of_o our_o brethren_n church_n preach_v out_o of_o their_o particular_a church_n they_o preach_v but_o as_o gift_a man_n yet_o i_o be_o sure_a other_o of_o our_o brethren_n and_o those_o to_o speak_v modest_o no_o way_n inferior_a to_o our_o brethren_n will_v own_v no_o such_o thing_n for_o who_o shall_v be_v then_o oblige_v to_o hear_v they_o or_o who_o can_v go_v to_o hear_v they_o as_o to_o a_o ordinance_n a_o public_a ordinance_n of_o christ_n i_o be_o yet_o to_o learn_v so_o that_o in_o practice_n our_o brethren_n do_v every_o day_n own_o what_o in_o word_n they_o deny_v but_o to_o come_v close_o to_o the_o question_n state_v by_o our_o brethren_n thus_o p._n 8._o what_o church_n office_n have_v relation_n to_o 8._o preacher_n send_v eap_v 2._o p._n 8._o whether_o officer_n stand_v in_o relation_n to_o a_o particular_a church_n only_o or_o whether_o they_o be_v officer_n of_o a_o universal_a church_n i_o observe_v our_o brethren_n in_o the_o same_o page_n alter_v their_o phrase_n instead_o of_o say_v we_o deny_v office_n to_o be_v a_o correlate_n to_o the_o universal_a church_n they_o say_v we_o deny_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n to_o be_v officer_n of_o a_o universal_a church_n we_o hope_v our_o brethren_n have_v no_o design_n to_o play_v at_o so_o small_a a_o game_n with_o we_o as_o that_o must_v be_v which_o be_v only_o win_v by_o the_o homonomy_n of_o a_o term_n however_o we_o will_v endeavour_v to_o prevent_v it_o for_o those_o new_a term_n pastor_n and_o teacher_n in_o ecclesiastical_a use_n they_o have_v obtain_v a_o double_a signification_n 1._o in_o scripture_n the_o term_n be_v take_v more_o large_o for_o any_o such_o as_o have_v authority_n to_o feed_v people_n with_o spiritual_a food_n whether_o it_o be_v occasional_o or_o constant_o so_o pastor_n be_v to_o be_v understand_v eph._n 4.11_o the_o only_a place_n where_o it_o be_v use_v in_o all_o the_o new_a testament_n so_o also_o jer._n 3.15_o so_o paul_n be_v call_v a_o teacher_n of_o the_o gentile_n and_o 1_o tim._n 2.7_o so_o teacher_n be_v use_v isa_n 30.20_o and_o act_v 13.1_o 1_o cor._n 12.28_o 29._o yea_o that_o term_n be_v use_v sometime_o to_o express_v the_o private_a duty_n of_o private_a person_n heb._n 5.12_o 2._o by_o a_o modern_a usage_n these_o term_n be_v use_v to_o express_v person_n choose_v or_o accept_v by_o particular_a church_n for_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n among_o they_o and_o restrain_v to_o that_o sense_n by_o what_o warrant_n i_o can_v tell_v if_o our_o brethren_n state_n the_o question_n in_o the_o latter_a sense_n concern_v pastor_n and_o teacher_n qua_fw-la tale_n as_o such_o they_o have_v no_o adversary_n for_o he_o that_o be_v pastor_n or_o teacher_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n as_o he_o be_v such_o a_o pastor_n or_o teacher_n undouted_o have_v not_o the_o church_n universal_a for_o his_o correlate_n but_o our_o brethren_n of_o the_o province_n of_o london_n say_v true_o that_o a_o regular_a pastor_n or_o teacher_n of_o a_o particular_a church_n have_v beside_o a_o particular_a relation_n to_o they_o as_o their_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n which_o their_o election_n or_o submission_n to_o he_o or_o both_o have_v make_v they_o a_o relation_n also_o to_o the_o church_n universal_a as_o he_o be_v the_o minister_n of_o jesus_n christ_n set_v apart_o and_o ordain_v for_o the_o
be_v no_o officer_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o do_v act_n of_o office_n be_v sinful_a but_o for_o person_n mere_o gift_v to_o preach_v ordinary_o in_o public_a assembly_n in_o the_o settle_a state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v for_o person_n who_o be_v no_o officer_n to_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o do_v act_n of_o office_n not_o to_o multiply_v word_n needless_o by_o act_n of_o office_n i_o mean_v act_n peculiar_a to_o office_n then_o say_v our_o brethren_n they_o deny_v my_o assumption_n preach_v they_o say_v be_v not_o a_o act_n peculiar_a to_o office_n i_o foresee_v this_o and_o therefore_o lay_v in_o some_o proof_n for_o it_o the_o proper_a act_n of_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n etc._n etc._n be_v act_n peculiar_a to_o office_n but_o ordinary_a preach_v in_o public_a church-assembly_n in_o a_o settle_a state_n of_o the_o church_n be_v the_o proper_a act_n of_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n etc._n etc._n by_o proper_a act_n our_o brethren_n may_v have_v conclude_v that_o i_o mean_v proper_a quarto_fw-la modo_fw-la such_o as_o be_v peculiar_a to_o they_o then_o they_o tell_v i_o they_o deny_v the_o minor_a and_o reader_n this_o be_v it_o that_o they_o affirm_v that_o preach_v be_v not_o the_o peculiar_a work_n of_o a_o preach_v elder_a teach_v the_o truth_n be_v not_o the_o peculiar_a work_n of_o a_o teacher_n but_o although_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v stand_a officer_n in_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n who_o must_v and_o aught_o to_o preach_v yet_o other_o may_v preach_v as_o well_o as_o they_o our_o brethren_n do_v allow_v that_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v needful_a to_o feed_v the_o flock_n of_o christ_n but_o yet_o that_o this_o flock_n may_v feed_v itself_o that_o christ_n have_v appoint_v some_o who_o ordinary_a work_n shall_v be_v to_o teach_v and_o who_o office_n it_o shall_v be_v to_o the_o performance_n of_o which_o they_o must_v be_v set_v apart_o but_o yet_o there_o be_v other_o who_o may_v do_v the_o same_o thing_n without_o be_v set_v apart_o this_o be_v clear_o our_o brethren_n sense_n but_o how_o consistent_a with_o reason_n let_v the_o reader_n judge_n as_o to_o the_o make_n of_o my_o argument_n good_a 2._o my_o former_a discourse_n will_v make_v it_o appear_v that_o i●_n will_v lie_v upon_o our_o brethren_n to_o give_v a_o instance_n of_o any_o one_o in_o scripture_n except_o extraordinary_a person_n in_o respect_n of_o extraordinary_a gift_n and_o office_n who_o not_o in_o order_n to_o ordination_n in_o a_o settle_a state_n of_o the_o church_n do_v ordinary_o preach_v or_o any_o precept_n to_o warrant_v such_o for_o the_o future_a we_o have_v proof_n enough_o in_o scripture_n that_o the_o elder_n and_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n do_v it_o i_o can_v yield_v it_o our_o brethren_n that_o the_o name_n teacher_n be_v to_o distinguish_v from_o he_o that_o exhort_v but_o the_o name_n of_o teacher_n and_o pastor_n too_o must_v have_v teach_v and_o exhort_v as_o their_o proper_a act_n by_o the_o force_n of_o the_o same_o text_n rom._n 12.7_o 8._o that_o work_n upon_o which_o the_o officer_n of_o the_o church_n be_v to_o wait_v that_o be_v his_o peculiar_a work_n but_o preach_v be_v that_o work_n upon_o which_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n be_v to_o wait_v rom._n 12.7_o 8._o that_o by_o god_n appointment_n it_o shall_v be_v the_o work_n and_o charge_n of_o some_o to_o wait_v upon_o the_o performance_n of_o a_o action_n which_o any_o other_o may_v do_v as_o well_o and_o as_o ordinary_o as_o they_o be_v a_o strange_a piece_n of_o sense_n 199._o pag._n 199._o our_o brethren_n p._n 199._o argue_v fallacious_o when_o they_o say_v distribution_n be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o deacon_n office_n and_o yet_o every_o one_o may_v distribute_v distribution_n of_o the_o church_n stock_n be_v indeed_o a_o act_n of_o the_o deacon_n office_n and_o this_o none_o but_o they_o may_v distribute_v they_o may_v as_o well_o have_v say_v speak_v be_v the_o act_n of_o a_o man_n ergo_fw-la preach_v the_o word_n be_v not_o peculiar_a to_o 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〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d this_o be_v all_o to_o which_o i_o answer_v 1._o our_o brethren_n know_v that_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d do_v not_o in_o scripture_n always_o signify_v either_o every_o individual_a person_n or_o thing_n under_o the_o genus_fw-la or_o species_n speak_v of_o nor_o yet_o the_o major_a part_n how_o many_o time_n in_o scripture_n be_v christ_n say_v to_o have_v die_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d for_o all_o yet_o christ_n neither_o die_v for_o every_o individual_a man_n nor_o for_o the_o major_a part_n of_o man_n mat._n 3.5_o 6._o it_o be_v say_v that_o all_o the_o region_n round_o about_o jordan_n go_v to_o hear_v john_n and_o be_v baptise_a of_o he_o confess_v their_o sin_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d yet_o i_o believe_v our_o brethren_n do_v not_o believe_v that_o every_o individual_a person_n in_o that_o region_n nor_o yet_o the_o major_a part_n do_v either_o go_v to_o hear_v or_o be_v baptize_v or_o confess_v their_o sin_n christ_n tell_v the_o pharisee_n they_o tythe_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ●very_n herb_n yet_o i_o believe_v our_o brethren_n believe_v that_o not_o one_o quarter_n of_o all_o the_o herb_n in_o the_o world_n be_v in_o any_o pharisee_n or_o any_o other_o jew_n garden_n so_o that_o this_o word_n will_v not_o conclude_v especial_o consider_v what_o reason_n we_o have_v to_o believe_v the_o contrary_a viz._n that_o neither_o the_o whole_a nor_o yet_o the_o major_a part_n of_o the_o church_n be_v present_a at_o this_o election_n 1._o this_o church_n must_v consist_v of_o above_o 8000._o soul_n 120._o be_v in_o it_o act_n 1.15_o 3000._o more_o be_v add_v act_v 2.41_o 5000._o more_o add_v act_v 4.4_o here_o be_v eight_o thousand_o one_o hundred_o and_o twenty_o soul_n now_o let_v any_o one_o in_o reason_n judge_n 1._o what_o one_o place_n in_o jerusalem_n can_v well_o contain_v they_o except_o the_o temple_n and_o whether_o it_o be_v 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something_o to_o it_o before_o but_o i_o will_v fain_o know_v of_o any_o one_o that_o understand_v sense_n whether_o those_o that_o ordain_v or_o choose_v be_v not_o those_o that_o confirm_a and_o exhort_v v._o 22._o those_o that_o preach_v and_o return_v again_o to_o lystra_n etc._n etc._n ver_fw-la 20._o if_o they_o be_v it_o be_v sure_a enough_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v the_o man_n 2._o i_o will_v fain_o know_v of_o those_o who_o understand_v grammar_n whether_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o join_v by_o apposition_n with_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d &_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o what_o other_o syntax_n of_o the_o word_n according_a to_o any_o grammatical_a rule_n can_v be_v endure_v object_n but_o the_o disciple_n be_v twice_o mention_v v._o 22._o answ_n it_o be_v very_o true_a but_o not_o as_o the_o person_n confirm_v and_o exhort_v but_o as_o the_o person_n confirm_v and_o exhort_v so_o they_o be_v mention_v here_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o 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scripture_n our_o brethren_n have_v no_o text_n where_o it_o be_v use_v in_o the_o active_a voice_n and_o govern_v a_o accusative_a case_n where_o it_o signify_v the_o people_n choice_n the_o word_n be_v indeed_o use_v but_o twice_o more_o in_o the_o new_a testament_n once_o for_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n once_o otherwise_o for_o god_n destination_n and_o appointment_n act_v 10.41_o our_o brethren_n can_v find_v it_o take_v for_o ordain_v in_o other_o author_n neither_o if_o our_o brethren_n mean_v for_o ordain_v minister_n i_o can_v tell_v how_o aristotle_n or_o demosthenes_n etc._n etc._n shall_v so_o use_v it_o but_o if_o they_o mean_v that_o in_o civil_a author_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d be_v not_o use_v for_o the_o constitute_n of_o a_o person_n in_o office_n without_o the_o people_n suffrage_n if_o they_o look_v stephen_n or_o hesychius_n or_o budeus_n they_o will_v better_o inform_v they_o hesychius_n say_v it_o signify_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d and_o then_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d but_o this_o be_v nothing_o to_o the_o present_a purpose_n we_o say_v if_o it_o signify_v choose_v here_o yet_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n choose_v 2._o our_o brethren_n say_v this_o can_v not_o be_v for_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o choose_v by_o suffrage_n now_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n can_v not_o make_v suffrage_n all_o this_o be_v a_o riddle_n to_o i_o for_o if_o i_o understand_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d i●_n signify_v the_o hand_n not_o the_o tongue_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d signify_v to_o stretch_v out_o not_o to_o speak_v the_o word_n no_o otherwise_o signify_v a_o choose_n by_o suffrage_n than_o the_o lift_n up_o of_o the_o hand_n do_v testify_v the_o suffrage_n but_o why_o can_v not_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n make_v suffrage_n sure_o they_o make_v two_o and_o that_o be_v the_o plural_a number_n sure_o the_o truth_n be_v the_o primary_n signification_n of_o the_o word_n be_v to_o choose_v by_o lift_v up_o of_o the_o hand_n 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