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A66932 A little stone, pretended to be out of the mountain, tried, and found to be a counterfeit, or, An examination & refutation of Mr. Lockyers lecture, preached at Edinburgh, anno 1651, concerning the mater of the visible church and afterwards printed with an appendix for popular government of single congregations : together with an examination, in two appendices, of what is said on these same purposes in a letter of some in Aberdene, who lately have departed from the communion and government of this church / by James Wood ... Wood, James, 1608-1664. 1654 (1654) Wing W3399; ESTC R206983 330,782 402

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office_n with_o all_o their_o spiritual_a gift_n and_o power_n the_o key_n pag._n 31._o 9_o as_o the_o key_n of_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n be_v diverse_a so_o be_v the_o subject_n to_o who_o they_o be_v commit_v diverse_a the_o key_n pag._n 11._o so_o locky_a here_o but_o that_o he_o add_v not_o profess_v the_o apostle_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o apostolical_a power_n ibid._n 32._o a_o synod_n be_v the_o first_o subject_n of_o that_o power_n whereby_o error_n be_v convince_v and_o condemn_v ibid._n pag._n 47._o not_o believer_n as_o believer_n but_o believer_n convenant_v and_o fit_o capable_a according_a to_o christ_n appointment_n hook_n suru._n p._n 1._o p._n 203._o 9_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n belong_v first_o to_o a_o congregation_n of_o covenant_a believer_n hook_n suru._n part._n 1._o pag._n 219._o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n be_v in_o the_o church_n of_o believer_n as_o the_o first_o subject_n ibid._n p._n 195._o that_o conceit_n be_v wide_a to_o make_v 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the_o ●hole_a church_n in_o matter_n of_o essential_a concernment_n he_o be_v enstate_v a●ongst_a the_o apostle_n themselves_o not_o by_o the_o ●…ffrag●…_n of_o some_o i._n e._n the_o apostle_n alone_o but_o by_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n 2._o if_o the_o presbyte●…_n here_o can_v be_v mean_v of_o a_o ordinary_a eldership_n what_o be_v it_o i_o hope_v the_o author_n will_v not_o say_v with_o some_o p●pish_a and_o prelatical_a writer_n that_o it_o be_v a_o company_n of_o bishop_n that_o be_v both_o elder_n and_o more_o than_o elder_n i_o conceive_v he_o can_v mean_v no_o other_o thing_n but_o that_o same_o which_o the_o author_n of_o the_o query_n concern_v ordination_n qu._n 19_o that_o they_o be_v some_o other_o apostle_n or_o apostle_n fellow_n together_o with_o paul_n who_o 2_o tim._n 1._o ●_o be_v say_v to_o have_v ●ayed_v his_o hand_n on_o timothy_n and_o that_o apostle_n be_v call_v elder_n and_o a_o company_n of_o apostle_n be_v call_v a_o presbytery_n or_o a_o eldership_n i_o say_v it_o seem_v the_o author_n can_v conceive_v no_o other_o thing_n to_o be_v mean_v for_o he_o say_v it_o must_v be_v a_o eldership_n that_o have_v not_o eldership_n not_o and_o yet_o he_o himself_o above_o sect._n ●0_n such_o extraordinary_a elder_n may_v have_v their_o ordination_n from_o man_n &_o le_fw-fr facto_fw-la ma●hias_n have_v his_o so_o so_o that_o by_o this_o ●e_n ●ayeth_v here_o mat●ias_n though_o a_o apostle_n can_v not_o be_v one_o of_o this_o eldership_n ordination_n from_o man_n but_o this_o conceit_n be_v so_o abundant_o answer_v by_o mr._n gillespy_n of_o worthy_a memory_n miscell_n c._n 8._o pag._n 104._o &_o seq_fw-la that_o little_o need_v to_o be_v add_v to_o what_o be_v say_v 〈◊〉_d he_o i_o shall_v here_o brief_o touch_v at_o some_o particular●_n give_v in_o answer_n to_o this_o 1._o suppose_v the_o presbytery_n in_o this_o place_n 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o to_o be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n yet_o nothing_o shall_v be_v gain_v thereby_o 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it_o have_v be_v a_o assembly_n of_o apostle_n that_o have_v lay_v their_o hand_n on_o timothy_n and_o so_o join_v with_o paul_n in_o that_o action_n paul_n have_v not_o thus_o distinguish_v his_o lay_n on_o of_o hand_n from_o that_o of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n as_o if_o the_o gift_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v be_v give_v to_o timothy_n only_o by_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o his_o hand_n and_o not_o by_o but_o with_o the_o lay_n on_o of_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o fellow_n apostle_n of_o this_o difference_n of_o the_o phrase_n in_o the_o one_o text_n and_o the_o other_o see_v this_o same_o worthy_a author_n pag._n 101._o 2._o apostle_n and_o elder_n be_v ordinary_o distinguish_v name_n in_o scripture_n the_o latter_a signify_v the_o ordinary_a perpetual_a fix_a ruler_n in_o the_o church_n so_o that_o it_o must_v be_v but_o a_o devise_a fiction_n to_o leave_v the_o ordinary_a notion_n of_o the_o word_n elder_a which_o signify_v a_o office_n diverse_a from_o the_o apostleship_n and_o 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judicial_a determination_n of_o all_o matter_n of_o government_n and_o jurisdiction_n to_o the_o suffrage_n of_o the_o people_n who_o by_o scripture_n be_v these_o who_o be_v to_o be_v rule_v and_o to_o obey_v and_o be_v as_o the_o foot_n and_o the_o hand_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n indeed_o it_o make_v these_o who_o ought_v to_o be_v rule_v to_o be_v the_o ruler_n &_o contra_fw-la set_v the_o foot_n above_o the_o head_n etc._n etc._n 2._o effective_o it_o can_v but_o in_o the_o exercise_n of_o it_o produce_v many_o confusion_n be_v there_o ever_o a_o democraticall_a or_o popular_a government_n to_o this_o day_n but_o it_o do_v so_o and_o be_v not_o that_o the_o evil_a of_o popular_a government_n in_o regard_n of_o which_o it_o be_v by_o all_o intelligent_a politician_n postpone_v both_o to_o aristocratical_a and_o monarchical_a government_n and_o scarce_o account_v worthy_a the_o name_n of_o a_o allowable_a government_n but_o see_v we_o the_o author_n answer_n section_n 5_o no_o 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proper_a to_o each_o work_n the_o hand_n to_o work_v and_o the_o foot_n to_o go_v section_n 6_o i_o humble_o conceive_v the_o author_n have_v do_v better_a to_o have_v spare_v his_o physiologick_n simile_n here_o and_o be_o of_o the_o mind_n some_o of_o his_o late_a associate_n here_o will_v not_o comply_v with_o his_o physical_a conception_n whatever_o they_o esteem_v of_o his_o theological_a tenet_n how_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n may_v be_v say_v to_o be_v all_o in_o the_o soul_n original_o radical_o and_o potential_o i_o can_v understand_v the_o meaning_n be_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v the_o effective_a principle_n from_o which_o these_o faculty_n proceed_v by_o way_n of_o issue_n or_o emanation_n as_o they_o call_v it_o to_o have_v their_o subjectation_n or_o inherency_n in_o their_o several_a respective_a organ_n and_o to_o say_v this_o be_v not_o incongruous_a but_o how_o the_o soul_n can_v be_v say_v to_o be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n fundamental_o radical_o and_o potential_o 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organicall-body_n and_o yet_o each_o organ_n etc._n etc._n for_o instance_n the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o all_o the_o soul_n original_o etc._n etc._n what_o incongruity_n be_v this_o to_o propound_v in_o the_o general_a of_o power_n fundamental_o in_o a_o whole_a body_n organical_a and_o then_o for_o a_o instance_n o●_n simile_n to_o tell_v we_o of_o power_n or_o faculty_n in_o the_o whole_a soul_n original_o be_v the_o soul_n a_o organical_a body_n but_o may_v some_o say_v the_o author_n say_v the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o all_o the_o soul_n fundamental_o and_o radical_o and_o the_o soul_n radical_o and_o fundamental_o in_o all_o the_o body_n and_o so_o will_v by_o consequence_n say_v that_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n fundamental_o and_o radical_o answ_n 1._o it_o be_v a_o very_a gross_a absurdity_n to_o say_v that_o the_o soul_n be_v in_o the_o whole_a body_n fundamental_o and_o radical_o or_o potential_o as_o we_o have_v show_v 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church_n as_o comprehend_v both_o people_n and_o minister_n that_o be_v the_o body_n or_o be_v it_o the_o people_n that_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o body_n the_o truth_n be_v mr._n locky_a be_v at_o a_o loss_n here_o with_o his_o simile_n jesus_n christ_n as_o king_n of_o the_o church_n be_v unto_o the_o church_n as_o the_o soul_n in_o the_o natural_a body_n and_o the_o power_n of_o govern_v be_v fundamental_o and_o radical_o in_o he_o and_o not_o in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n and_o therefore_o 3._o to_o make_v use_n of_o the_o last_o word_n of_o his_o similitude_n for_o which_o we_o thank_v he_o as_o make_v clear_o against_o himself_o and_o for_o we_o as_o the_o sensitive_a faculty_n be_v radical_o and_o fundamental_o in_o the_o soul_n and_o act_v only_o as_o he_o say_v well_o by_o such_o part_n as_o be_v fit_a to_o act_v by_o as_o see_v by_o the_o eye_n and_o hear_v by_o the_o ear_n and_o the_o soul_n act_v all_o its_o work_n by_o such_o organ_n as_o be_v proper_a to_o each_o work_n the_o hand_n to_o work_v the_o foot_n to_o go_v so_o to_o give_v the_o apodosis_n which_o he_o have_v no_o will_n to_o express_v ecclesiastic_a organical_a power_n such_o as_o the_o sense_n be_v ●n_v the_o natural_a body_n as_o the_o power_n of_o govern_v teach_v administrate_v the_o seal_n be_v fundamental_o in_o christ_n the_o king_n of_o the_o church_n and_o act_v only_o by_o such_o part_n as_o be_v fit_a to_o act_v by_o ruler_n teacher_n and_o minister_n these_o be_v the_o proper_a organ_n of_o those_o work_n section_n 7_o the_o five_o and_o and_z last_o obj._n he_o meet_v with_o be_v this_o the_o elder_n of_o the_o church_n be_v call_v overseer_n steward_n shepherd_n father_n all_o which_o in_o their_o analogy_n hold_v forth_o a_o peculiar_a and_o sole_a power_n to_o do_v thing_n father_n govern_v alone_o so_o overseer_n etc._n etc._n as_o to_o this_o propound_v of_o this_o argument_n 1._o we_o speak_v not_o for_o a_o peculiar_a sole_a power_n to_o do_v thing_n indefinite_o in_o elder_n but_o for_o a_o sole_a power_n of_o authoritative_a act_n in_o matter_n of_o government_n and_o not_o exclude_v or_o deny_v unto_o people_n a_o private_a judgement_n of_o discretion_n to_o try_v and_o prove_v the_o act_n thereof_o by_o the_o rule_n 2._o the_o author_n leave_v out_o some_o of_o the_o name_n and_o title_n give_v to_o the_o elder_n which_o use_v to_o be_v allege_v in_o this_o argument_n beside_o the_o name_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d elder_n as_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d guide_n leader_n conductor_n governor_n heb._n 13._o 7_o 17_o 24._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 1_o tim._n 5._o 17._o rom._n 12._o 8._o 1_o thessaly_n 5._o 12._o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d government_n or_o governor_n the_o abstract_n be_v put_v for_o the_o concrete_a 2_o cor._n 12._o 28._o 3._o because_o the_o author_n be_v please_v to_o propound_v the_o argument_n from_o this_o ground_n in_o the_o soft_a way_n for_o his_o own_o advantage_n we_o 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and_o authority_n of_o government_n appropriate_v to_o some_o person_n i._n e._n give_v to_o they_o and_o not_o to_o other_o if_o not_o for_o this_o end_n and_o reason_n to_o distinguish_v they_o that_o be_v vest_v with_o authority_n to_o govern_v in_o the_o church_n from_o other_o and_o to_o signify_v and_o hold_v forth_o a_o duty_n or_o work_n incumbent_a to_o they_o and_o not_o to_o other_o the_o assumption_n see_v evidence_v at_o length_n in_o jus_o divinum_fw-la of_o church_n government_n par._n 2._o pag._n 171_o 172_o 173._o the_o sum_n be_v this_o these_o title_n elder_a overseer_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d conductor_n governor_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d steward_n pastor_n government_n ruler_n be_v name_n which_o general_o
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〈…〉_o ●…her_o which_o 〈…〉_o ●en_z rather_o 〈…〉_o ashi●…_n his_o dis●…_n 〈…〉_o and_o s●l●_n 〈…〉_o be_v so_o rule●_n 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o to_o th●_n ch●…_n 〈…〉_o that_o t●_n th●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…y_o o●_n 〈◊〉_d ●…d_n 〈…〉_o and_o 〈…〉_o but_o 〈…〉_o as_o a_o brother_n 〈…〉_o the_o 〈…〉_o or_o in●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…y_o to_o con●…_n 〈…〉_o of_o rule_v and_o go●…_n 〈…〉_o power_n nor_o alone_o to_o exercise_v 〈…〉_o ●…in_v con●…ction_n 〈…〉_o shep●…_n 〈…〉_o ●…cive_a that_o mr._n locky_a as_o he_o 〈…〉_o so_o he_o will_v not_o deny_v that_o th●_n 〈…〉_o only_o of_o the_o church_n be_v so_o call_v 〈…〉_o the●_n only_o ●ut_v the_o rest_n of_o the_o prof●…_n 〈…〉_o in_o the_o power_n and_o act_n o●_n ru●…_n 〈…〉_o it_o i●_n 〈◊〉_d to_o give_v the_o 〈◊〉_d the_o 〈…〉_o of_o 〈◊〉_d as_o much_o and_o much_o ●ore_o o●_n 〈◊〉_d thing_n 〈…〉_o ●hem_fw-mi it_o be_v true_a indeed_o that_o elde●_n 〈…〉_o shall_v with_o the_o rest_n of_o professor_n but_o 〈…〉_o in_o another_o thing_n than_o that_o power_n which_o be_v signify_v by_o the_o 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congregation_n '_o tisfilly_n and_o may_v well_o be_v say_v among_o child_n but_o may_v blush_v to_o come_v out_o before_o understanding_n men._n by_o this_o argument_n when_o our_o saviour_n say_v upon_o this_o rock_n will_v i_o build_v my_o church_n and_o the_o apostle_n 1_o cor._n 12._o he_o have_v set_v in_o the_o church_n first_o some_o apostle_n etc._n etc._n and_o ephes_n 5._o he_o love_v his_o church_n and_o give_v himself_o for_o it_o because_o it_o be_v in_o the_o singular_a number_n church_n not_o church_n in_o all_o these_o place_n therefore_o it_o must_v be_v only_o one_o single_a congregation_n mean_v in_o all_o of_o they_o when_o as_o it_o be_v indeed_o the_o whole_a catholic_n church_n and_o not_o any_o particular_a singular_a congregation_n so_o the_o name_n flock_n in_o the_o singular_a number_n why_o may_v it_o not_o be_v take_v collectiuè_fw-la for_o such_o a_o flock_n as_o contain_v in_o it_o diverse_a particular_a flock_n as_o gen._n 33._o 13._o yea_o and_o in_o the_o very_a present_a metaphorical_a sense_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d luke_n 12._o 32._o little_a flock_n and_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d john_n 10._o 16._o one_o sheep_n fold_n though_o both_o in_o the_o singular_a number_n yea_o and_o in_o the_o latter_a place_n with_o the_o cardinal_n number_n add_v to_o it_o one_o signify_v the_o church_n catholic_n and_o so_o comprehend_v many_o particular_a flock_n fold_n and_o church_n as_o to_o m._n lockiers_n last_o word_n in_o this_o sect._n here_o be_v no_o joint_a voice_n etc._n etc._n indeed_o we_o grant_v that_o in_o that_o meeting_n there_o be_v no_o joint_n vote_v of_o elder_n because_o these_o elder_n than_o be_v not_o meet_v to_o act_v in_o government_n but_o have_v be_v send_v for_o by_o paul_n to_o receive_v direction_n from_o he_o concern_v the_o manage_n of_o their_o charge_n but_o suppose_v that_o which_o be_v prove_v from_o other_o place_n that_o there_o be_v more_o single_a congregation_n in_o ephesus_n then_o one_o 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mr._n locky_a acknowledge_v that_o be_v a_o eldership_n of_o several_a church_n even_o a_o synodical_a presbytery_n a_o synod_n as_o himself_o call_v it_o afterward_o sect._n 29._o some_o of_o his_o side_n have_v say_v otherwise_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n in_o their_o reason_n against_o the_o assembly_n allegation_n of_o act_n 15._o for_o subordination_n of_o synod_n that_o ass_n be_v not_o a_o formal_a synod_n but_o only_o a_o reference_n by_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o antioch_n unto_o this_o particular_a church_n of_o jerusalem_n and_o no_o other_o but_o we_o think_v mr._n locky_a speak_v the_o truth_n that_o it_o be_v a_o synod_n 2._o we_o must_v here_o again_o note_v his_o invidious_a misrepresent_v of_o our_o doctrine_n we_o do_v not_o ascribe_v to_o that_o or_o any_o other_o synod_n a_o power_n of_o coercion_n to_o enforce_v their_o result_v upon_o any_o but_o a_o authoritative_a juridical_a power_n to_o enjoin_v authoritative_o their_o determination_n agreeable_a to_o 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21._o paper_n of_o the_o assem_fw-la of_o divine_n ans_fw-fr to_o the_o reas_n of_o the_o dissent_v brethren_n against_o the_o instance_n of_o the_o church_n of_o jerus_n jus_fw-la divin_n of_o church_n govern._n by_o the_o london_n minister_n part._n 2._o c._n 14._o mr._n rutherfurd_n due_a right_n of_o presbytery_n pag._n 355._o at_o length_n treat_v upon_o this_o place_n spanhem_n epist_n ad_fw-la david_n bucan_n class_n 3._o rat_n 3._o there_o be_v so_o much_o say_v by_o these_o to_o this_o purpose_n that_o i_o need_v not_o increase_v the_o bulk_n of_o this_o book_n by_o set_v down_o any_o reason_n here_o against_o mr_n locky_a if_o he_o will_v be_v please_v to_o take_v unto_o his_o consideration_n what_o be_v already_o say_v by_o they_o he_o may_v do_v well_o come_v we_o to_o his_o reason_n bring_v to_o prove_v that_o this_o synod_n exercise_v only_o a_o power_n of_o counsel_n not_o of_o jurisdiction_n of_o four_o bring_v by_o mr._n hooker_n survey_v part._n 4._o c._n 1._o pag._n 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that_o the_o matter_n can_v be_v agree_v upon_o and_o determine_v among_o themselves_o when_o there_o be_v a_o appeal_n propter_fw-la malam_fw-la administrationem_fw-la vel_fw-la malam_fw-la administrationem_fw-la praesumptam_fw-la etc._n etc._n section_n 10_o final_o sect_n 46._o if_o the_o particular_a church_n have_v not_o be_v complete_a to_o do_v its_o own_o work_n without_o a_o foreign_a a_o associate_n eldership_n the_o apostle_n will_v have_v mention_v something_o of_o this_o combine_n of_o eldership_n and_o when_o this_o might_n be_v sure_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n dare_v not_o neglect_v the_o use_n of_o it_o and_o yet_o we_o find_v not_o the_o one_o and_o do_v find_v the_o other_o the_o apostle_n when_o he_o take_v his_o leave_n of_o the_o church_n of_o ephesus_n commend_v it_o not_o to_o associate_v elder_n but_o both_o elder_n and_o people_n as_o one_o flock_n to_o the_o grace_n of_o god_n act._n 20._o 32._o answ_n 1._o let_v it_o be_v so_o that_o the_o particular_a 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exception_n make_v to_o the_o contrary_a abundant_o confute_v 4._o what_o mr._n locky_a have_v find_v or_o not_o find_v we_o know_v not_o nor_o stand_v on_o it_o but_o he_o may_v have_v find_v a_o presbytery_n over_o more_o congregation_n than_o one_o in_o jerusalem_n antioch_n corinth_n ephesus_n and_o he_o can_v deny_v but_o he_o have_v find_v the_o church_n of_o antioch_n make_v use_n of_o a_o associate_n synodical_a presbytery_n at_o jerusalem_n and_o that_o that_o presbytery_n be_v more_o than_o consultative_a even_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a have_v be_v prove_v but_o i_o think_v what_o ever_o he_o conceive_v that_o he_o have_v find_v of_o a_o congregationall_a eldership_n exercise_v jurisdiction_n ordain_v or_o excommunicate_v by_o itself_o he_o shall_v hardly_o point_v we_o to_o the_o place_n of_o scripture_n where_o he_o find_v the_o instance_n of_o it_o what_o he_o say_v of_o the_o elder_n and_o church_n of_o ephesus_n from_o act_n 20._o have_v be_v answer_v before_o section_n xii_o reply_v to_o mr._n lockiers_n answer_n to_o some_o objection_n from_o section_n 47._o to_o the_o end_n wherein_o separation_n from_o not_o only_o this_o church_n of_o scotland_n but_o all_o the_o protestant_n presbyterian_a church_n as_o idolatrous_a be_v drive_v at_o section_n 1_o mr._n locky_a have_v hitherto_o go_v about_o as_o he_o can_v to_o maintain_v that_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o government_n of_o the_o church_n of_o christ_n ought_v not_o to_o be_v in_o the_o hand_n of_o officer_n and_o governor_n set_v over_o the_o church_n in_o the_o lord_n by_o the_o lord_n himself_o but_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n and_o that_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o every_o particular_a congregation_n independent_o and_o supreme_o without_o association_n in_o or_o subordination_n unto_o any_o common_a ecclesiastic_a government_n which_o how_o well_o he_o have_v assert_v and_o maintain_v we_o leave_v it_o to_o all_o understanding_n impartial_a reader_n to_o 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from_o church_n not_o only_o because_o other_o learned_a man_n have_v speak_v abundant_o and_o well_o upon_o that_o purpose_n namely_o my_o reverend_n and_o learned_a colleague_n in_o the_o ministry_n and_o superior_a in_o the_o society_n wherein_o i_o live_v mr._n rutherfurd_n in_o his_o peaceable_a plea_n and_o due_a right_n but_o also_o because_o i_o find_v nothing_o bring_v by_o this_o author_n upon_o the_o matter_n worth_a the_o stay_n upon_o in_o handle_v that_o matter_n i_o shall_v only_o give_v some_o few_o note_n upon_o some_o thing_n the_o author_n i_o think_v out_o of_o hear_v of_o passion_n have_v vent_v himself_o in_o section_n 2_o have_v sect._n 47._o object_v to_o himself_o thus_o you_o seem_v to_o be_v for_o separation_n from_o a_o presbyterial_a church_n we_o find_v no_o separation_n but_o in_o case_n of_o idolatry_n to_o this_o sect._n 48._o he_o answer_v thus_o in_o sum_n that_o not_o only_o heathen_n have_v their_o idolatry_n as_o dagon_n but_o also_o christian_n they_o as_o a_o supreme_a bishop_n over_o all_o church_n which_o he_o insinuate_v to_o have_v be_v the_o papist_n idolatry_n alas_o he_o may_v have_v give_v other_o instance_n of_o their_o idolatry_n then_o this_o as_o their_o worship_v a_o breaden_a god_n crucifix_n relic_n saint_n depart_v image_n etc._n etc._n then_o a_o supreme_a bishop_n or_o archbishop_n over_o the_o church_n in_o such_o a_o nation_n the_o prelatical_a protestant_n idol_n he_o will_v say_v and_o then_o a_o combination_n of_o bishop_n over_o church_n hereby_o mean_v a_o associate_n presbytery_n or_o assembly_n presbyteer_v rule_v more_o church_n odious_o call_v they_o bishop_n that_o to_o he_o be_v also_o idolatry_n so_o that_o command_v 2_o cor._n 6._o 17._o come_v out_o from_o one_o kind_n of_o idolatry_n be_v come_v out_o from_o all_o or_o else_o that_o rule_n bind_v only_o to_o separate_v from_o heathenish_a idolatry_n what_o be_v not_o warrant_v by_o the_o word_n be_v a_o idol_n answ_n we_o shall_v not_o deny_v but_o that_o whatsoever_o be_v practise_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n or_o set_v up_o as_o a_o ordinance_n without_o god_n warrant_v in_o his_o word_n may_v be_v comprehend_v under_o idolatry_n take_v idolatry_n in_o a_o large_a sense_n but_o that_o every_o thing_n set_v up_o or_o practise_v in_o the_o worship_n of_o god_n or_o in_o ordinance_n be_v such_o idolatry_n as_o be_v a_o ground_n sufficient_a to_o separate_v from_o a_o church_n wherein_o it_o be_v practise_v as_o no_o true_a church_n be_v a_o conceit_n in_o itself_o without_o warrant_n of_o the_o word_n nay_o direct_o contrare_fw-la to_o the_o allow_a practice_n of_o god_n people_n in_o the_o word_n both_o in_o old_a and_o new_a testament_n this_o conceit_n of_o mr._n lockier_n be_v very_a brounisme_n and_o rigid_a separatism_n ingraine_n but_o of_o this_o and_o the_o place_n 2_o cor._n 6._o 17._o see_v enough_o in_o the_o reverend_a author_n who_o i_o last_o mention_v but_o as_o for_o association_n or_o combination_n of_o church_n under_o a_o common_a presbytery_n it_o be_v warrant_v in_o the_o word_n of_o god_n and_o so_o be_v his_o ordinance_n as_o have_v be_v abundant_o prove_v and_o what_o mr._n locky_a have_v bring_v to_o the_o contrare_fw-la we_o trust_v have_v be_v sufficient_o refute_v and_o therefore_o let_v he_o consider_v his_o account_n he_o have_v to_o make_v to_o almighty_a god_n for_o so_o atrocious_a a_o calumny_n as_o his_o brand_a it_o with_o the_o name_n of_o idolatry_n and_o involve_v all_o the_o reform_a orthodox_n church_n of_o jesus_n christ_n in_o the_o fearful_a crime_n of_o idolatry_n and_o as_o for_o his_o press_a separation_n from_o all_o the_o reform_a church_n as_o idolatrous_a i_o shall_v say_v no_o more_o but_o bring_v some_o godly_a man_n among_o independent_o themselves_o give_v testimony_n against_o he_o hear_v mr._n hooker_n speak_v in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o divine_n of_o new_a england_n of_o the_o congregation_n of_o old_a england_n i_o will_v 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jurisdiction_n and_o censure_n be_v in_o the_o congregation_n i._n e._n the_o body_n of_o private_a professor_n and_o the_o eldership_n joint_o both_o be_v to_o concur_v formal_o in_o the_o act_n thereof_o and_o not_o only_o in_o the_o eldership_n 2._o that_o any_o one_o single_a congregation_n with_o its_o eldership_n have_v complete_a power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o censure_n within_o itself_o supreme_o and_o without_o subordination_n to_o any_o large_a or_o superior_a pre●…yterie_n but_o for_o further_a clear_v of_o their_o mind_n here_o it_o be_v requisite_a they_o shall_v explain_v these_o two_o thing_n to_o we_o 1._o who_o they_o mean_v by_o the_o congregation_n contradistinguish_v from_o the_o eldership_n whether_o the_o whole_a collection_n of_o church-member_n or_o only_a man_n and_o those_o of_o year_n of_o discretion_n if_o the_o former_a than_o woman_n and_o child_n must_v be_v joint_a with_o the_o eldership_n in_o the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o censure_n if_o this_o be_v their_o mind_n we_o will_v know_v it_o and_o they_o will_v speak_v it_o plain_o if_o the_o latter_a than_o it_o be_v not_o the_o congregation_n but_o some_o part_n of_o the_o congregation_n with_o the_o eldership_n that_o have_v the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o censure_n or_o else_o woman_n and_o child_n be_v not_o part_n constituent_v of_o the_o congregation_n and_o then_o let_v they_o tell_v i_o where_o shall_v they_o find_v the_o name_n of_o the_o church_n in_o all_o the_o gospel_n in_o this_o notion_n take_v for_o the_o eldership_n with_o the_o ●ale-professours_a of_o adult_n year_n exclude_v woman_n and_o child_n 2._o suppose_v the_o whole_a eldership_n of_o a_o congregation_n be_v scandalous_a and_o censurable_a who_o have_v the_o power_n of_o jurisdiction_n and_o censure_n to_o exercise_v towards_o they_o if_o jurisdiction_n and_o censure_n shall_v be_v exercise_v towards_o they_o as_o i_o suppose_v it_o shall_v be_v who_o have_v it_o and_o
office_n nor_o do_v we_o deny_v but_o the_o people_n may_v be_v present_a at_o the_o handle_n of_o matter_n of_o faith_n in_o assembly_n be_v hearer_n and_o witness_n of_o the_o whole_a proceed_n thereanent_a give_v their_o counsel_n and_o advice_n in_o consultation_n also_o testify_v their_o assent_n and_o approbation_n to_o the_o determination_n we_o grant_v also_o that_o excommunication_n and_o lose_v from_o excommunication_n of_o person_n be_v not_o perform_v without_o at_o least_o the_o tacit_n agreement_n and_o consent_n of_o the_o people_n ●hey_n be_v to_o concur_v actiuè_fw-la and_o executiuè_fw-la to_o both_o and_o therefore_o when_o any_o person_n be_v to_o be_v excommunicate_a the_o ground_n and_o cause_n thereof_o be_v make_v know_v to_o the_o people_n and_o when_o person_n excommunicate_v be_v to_o be_v receive_v again_o into_o the_o church_n they_o be_v bring_v before_o the_o people_n to_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d public_a confession_n before_o they_o as_o we_o do_v in_o our_o church_n now_o but_o none_o of_o these_o nor_o all_o of_o they_o amount_v to_o a_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a power_n of_o government_n but_o as_o for_o such_o act_n as_o belong_v direct_o to_o authoritative_a and_o juridical_a government_n as_o ordination_n of_o minister_n judicial_a sentence_a person_n to_o be_v excommunicate_a or_o absolution_n from_o excommunication_n give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o public_a determination_n of_o controversy_n of_o faith_n or_o of_o matter_n pertain_v to_o order_n and_o rite_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n let_v our_o author_n produce_v any_o testimony_n or_o allow_v practice_n of_o the_o people_n formal_a influence_n and_o concurrence_n in_o these_o if_o they_o will_v say_v any_o thing_n from_o that_o antiquity_n for_o a_o ecclesiastic_a government_n proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n section_n 15_o hierome_n who_o be_v near_o these_o age_n and_o better_o acquaint_v with_o their_o way_n than_o these_o author_n tell_v we_o in_o the_o general_a in_o who_o hand_n the_o power_n of_o government_n be_v then_o in_o that_o remarkable_a and_o famous_a say_n of_o he_o on_o the_o epistle_n to_o tit._n c._n 1._o antequam_fw-la diaboli_fw-la instinctu_fw-la studia_fw-la in_o religione_fw-la fierent_fw-la &_o diceretur_fw-la in_o populo_fw-la ego_fw-la sum_fw-la pauli_n ego_fw-la apollo_n ego_fw-la vero_fw-la cephae_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n see_v what_o learned_a chamier_n say_v on_o this_o of_o hierome_n lib._n 10._o de_fw-la oecumen_fw-la pontifc_fw-la 5._o §_o 22._o answer_v to_o bellarmin_n he_o arg._n respondeo_fw-la ad_fw-la primum_fw-la etiamsi_fw-la aristocratia_fw-la non_fw-la sit_fw-la totidem_fw-la syllabis_fw-la nominata_fw-la tamen_fw-la certò_fw-la significatam_fw-la his_fw-la verbis_fw-la communi_fw-la presbyterorum_fw-la consilio_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la gubernabantur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o he_o add_v bonam_fw-la autem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la id_fw-la regiminis_fw-la formam_fw-la inde_fw-la sequitur_fw-la quod_fw-la ab_fw-la initio_fw-la fuisse_fw-la dicat_fw-la hieronymus_n come_v in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la id_fw-la sit_fw-la optimum_fw-la quod_fw-la verissimum_fw-la id_fw-la autem_fw-la verissimum_fw-la quod_fw-la primum_fw-la dicit_fw-la etiam_fw-la hieron_n fuisse_fw-la ex_fw-la institutionis_fw-la dominicae_fw-la veritate_fw-la and_o mark_v in_o this_o same_o learned_a author_n who_o word_n i_o be_o now_o cite_v that_o the_o very_a thing_n he_o undertake_v to_o demonstrate_v in_o that_o c._n 5._o and_o some_o follow_v both_o from_o scripture_n and_o antiquity_n be_v that_o the_o government_n as_o well_o of_o particular_a as_o of_o consociat_fw-la churches_n be_v pure_a aristocracy_n c._n 5._o §_o 1._o section_n 16_o more_o particular_o 1._o that_o ordination_n and_o imposition_n of_o hand_n which_o only_o be_v the_o authoritative_a act_n in_o the_o call_v of_o a_o minister_n and_o that_o which_o confer_v ministerial_o under_o christ_n a_o mininisteriall_a power_n be_v in_o these_o primitive_a time_n the_o proper_a and_o peculiar_a act_n of_o the_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n or_o the_o presbytery_n be_v so_o evident_a and_o clear_a to_o all_o that_o have_v read_v any_o thing_n of_o these_o time_n that_o it_o be_v waste_v of_o time_n and_o paper_n to_o produce_v testimony_n for_o it_o indeed_o we_o find_v in_o antiquity_n that_o after_o that_o once_o there_o begin_v a_o constant_a president_n to_o be_v set_v up_o in_o the_o presbytery_n with_o the_o name_n of_o bishop_n which_o in_o scripture_n be_v common_a to_o all_o presbyter_n appropriate_a to_o he_o alone_o somewhat_o of_o the_o act_n of_o ordination_n begin_v also_o to_o be_v peculiar_a to_o he_o and_o as_o he_o advance_v in_o his_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d preeminency_n above_o presbyter_n so_o be_v the_o power_n of_o ordination_n more_o and_o more_o defer_v to_o he_o or_o usurp_v by_o he_o alone_o and_o hence_o come_v that_o point_n of_o difference_n between_o a_o bishop_n and_o a_o presbyter_n of_o which_o i_o in_o his_o time_n quid_fw-la facit_fw-la exceptâ_fw-la ordinatione_fw-la episcopus_fw-la quod_fw-la non_fw-la facit_fw-la presbyter_n but_o that_o ever_o the_o people_n have_v any_o formal_a concurrence_n in_o ordination_n of_o minister_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a to_o antiquity_n section_n 17_o 2._o that_o the_o power_n and_o exercise_v of_o the_o key_n of_o discipline_n of_o bind_v and_o lose_v sentence_v unto_o censure_n and_o absolution_n from_o censure_n also_o be_v only_o in_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o college_n of_o presbyter_n in_o those_o time_n of_o the_o church_n be_v as_o evident_a to_o such_o as_o be_v any_o way_n acquaint_v in_o they_o origen_n hom._n 7._o in_o josuam_fw-la tertio_fw-la admonitum_fw-la resipiscere_fw-la nolentem_fw-la jubet_fw-la ab_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la corpore_fw-la desecari_fw-la per_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la praesides_fw-la the_o centuriator_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o tell_v we_o that_o then_o jus_fw-la tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la lapsis_fw-la publicae_fw-la penes_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la seniores_fw-la erat_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la eam_fw-la rem_fw-la convenire_fw-la solebant_fw-la and_o they_o cite_v for_o this_o tertullia_n apologetic_n the_o order_n then_o observe_v in_o receive_v penitent_n that_o have_v offend_v by_o grievous_a scandalous_a sin_n be_v most_o clear_a for_o this_o they_o be_v first_o to_o compear_v before_o the_o bishop_n and_o his_o clergy_n i._n e._n the_o presbytery_n wherein_o the_o bishop_n then_o differ_v from_o other_o presbyter_n ordine_fw-la tantum_fw-la non_fw-la gradu_fw-la by_o they_o the_o penitent_n cause_v be_v judicial_o cognosce_v the_o manner_n of_o satisfaction_n prescribe_v and_o enjoin_v to_o they_o and_o have_v perform_v that_o and_o make_v their_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d before_o the_o people_n they_o be_v actual_o absolve_v by_o the_o imposition_n of_o the_o hand_n of_o the_o bishop_n and_o clergy_n or_o the_o presbytery_n cyprian_n epistle_n be_v full_a of_o testimony_n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v needless_a labour_n to_o insist_v in_o citation_n of_o they_o only_o i_o think_v it_o worth_a the_o pain_n to_o produce_v one_o passage_n whereby_o it_o may_v evident_o appear_v that_o the_o way_n of_o absolve_v and_o receive_v penitent_n be_v just_a as_o it_o be_v now_o in_o the_o presbyterian_a government_n as_o to_o the_o matter_n and_o substance_n it_o be_v in_o lib._n 3._o epist_n 11._o in_o pamel_n ord._n epist_n 46._o from_o cornelius_n bishop_n of_o rome_n to_o cyprian_a concern_v the_o return_n of_o some_o confessor_n from_o the_o novatian_a schism_n to_o the_o unity_n of_o the_o church_n there_o cornelius_n after_o he_o have_v relate_v how_o these_o confessor_n have_v express_v their_o desire_n of_o reconciliation_n to_o the_o presbyter_n and_o take_v with_o the_o fault_n lay_v to_o their_o charge_n in_o a_o private_a and_o extrajudiciall_a way_n he_o proceed_v thus_o omni_fw-la igitur_fw-la actu_fw-la ad_fw-la i_o perlato_fw-la placuit_fw-la contrahi_fw-la presbyterium_fw-la adfuerunt_fw-la etiam_fw-la episcopi_fw-la quinque_fw-la qui_fw-la &_o hodie_fw-la praesentes_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la ut_fw-la firmato_fw-la consilio_fw-la quid_fw-la circa_fw-la personam_fw-la eorum_fw-la observari_fw-la deberet_fw-la consensu_fw-la omnium_fw-la statueretur_fw-la et_fw-la ut_fw-la motum_fw-la omnium_fw-la &_o consilium_fw-la singulorum_fw-la dignosceres_fw-la etiam_fw-la sententias_fw-la nostras_fw-la placuit_fw-la in_o notitiam_fw-la vestri_fw-la perferri_fw-la quas_fw-la &_o subjectas_fw-la leges_fw-la his_o ita_fw-la gestis_fw-la in_o presbyterium_fw-la venerunt_fw-la vrbanus_n etc._n etc._n et_fw-la plerique_fw-la fratres_fw-la qui_fw-la se_fw-la iis_fw-la adjunxerant_fw-la summis_fw-la precibus_fw-la desiderantes_fw-la ut_fw-la ea_fw-la quae_fw-la ante_fw-la fuerunt_fw-la gesta_fw-la in_fw-la oblivionem_fw-la cederent_fw-la nullaque_fw-la eorum_fw-la mentio_fw-la haberetur_fw-la quod_fw-la erat_fw-la consequens_fw-la omnis_fw-la hic_fw-la actus_fw-la populo_fw-la erat_fw-la insinuandus_fw-la ut_fw-la &_o ipsos_fw-la viderent_fw-la in_o ecclesiâ_fw-la constitutos_fw-la have_v relate_v the_o people_n expression_n of_o their_o joy_n he_o set_v down_o the_o confession_n which_o the_o penitent_n make_v nos_fw-la errorem_fw-la nostrum_fw-la confitemur_fw-la etc._n etc._n and_o then_o add_v istâ_fw-la
eorum_fw-la professione_n non_fw-la moveremur_fw-la ut_fw-la quod_fw-la apud_fw-la potestatem_fw-la seculi_fw-la erant_fw-la confessi_fw-la in_fw-la ecclesiâ_fw-la constituti_fw-la comprobarent_fw-la quamobrem_fw-la maximum_fw-la prespyterum_fw-la jussimus_fw-la locum_fw-la suum_fw-la agnoscere_fw-la caeteros_fw-la cum_fw-la ingenti_fw-la populi_fw-la suffragio_fw-la recepimus_fw-la i_o need_v not_o comment_n upon_o the_o place_n it_o speak_v plain_a enough_o of_o itself_o what_o we_o be_v plead_v for_o section_n 18_o 3._o that_o the_o give_v of_o definitive_a sentence_n in_o question_n of_o faith_n or_o make_v ecclesiastic_a constitution_n and_o canon_n concern_v order_n to_o be_v observe_v in_o the_o church_n in_o these_o age_n do_v ordinary_o pertain_v only_o to_o minister_n of_o the_o church_n bishop_n and_o elder_n &_o that_o though_o other_o private_a christian_n may_v be_v present_a hear_v and_o consult_v that_o yet_o these_o only_o do_v sit_v and_o vote_n as_o ordinary_a judge_n be_v undenyablie_o clear_a by_o the_o history_n of_o all_o counsel_n that_o be_v then_o hold_v in_o the_o church_n i_o say_v ordinary_a for_o i_o deny_v not_o but_o that_o sometime_o such_o as_o be_v not_o in_o any_o such_o ministerial_a office_n do_v also_o sit_v and_o concur_v in_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n but_o these_o be_v not_o any_o whatsoever_o private_a christian_n promiscuous_o but_o eminent_a learned_a and_o pious_a man_n and_o have_v authority_n and_o call_v thereunto_o either_o by_o antecedent_n agreement_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v to_o meet_v in_o the_o assembly_n or_o by_o a_o subsequent_a assume_v and_o call_v of_o they_o by_o the_o assembly_n itself_o which_o be_v a_o especial_a vocation_n unto_o the_o ministerial_a office_n ad_fw-la tempus_fw-la and_o in_o relation_n to_o these_o particular_a act_n which_o be_v to_o be_v do_v in_o the_o synod_n and_o in_o so_o far_o do_v exempt_v they_o è_fw-mi sort_n out_o of_o the_o state_n of_o mere_a private_a christian_n but_o that_o such_o as_o be_v mere_a private_a christian_n i._n e._n be_v neither_o ordinary_a minister_n nor_o have_v a_o special_a calling_n extra_fw-la ordinem_fw-la concur_v to_o give_v definitive_a sentence_n in_o assembly_n be_v a_o thing_n unknown_a see_v what_o junius_n a_o man_n well_o verse_v in_o antiquity_n say_v to_o bellarm_n cont._n 3._o lib._n 2._o c._n 25._o n._n 2._o speak_v in_o relation_n to_o ancient_a counsel_n eorum_fw-la qui_fw-la conciliis_fw-la intersunt_fw-la varia_fw-la esse_fw-la genera_fw-la esse_fw-la audientes_fw-la qui_fw-la in_o doctrina_fw-la &_o ordine_fw-la ex_fw-la auditione_n informantur_fw-la esse_fw-la doctos_fw-la qui_fw-la ad_fw-la consultationem_fw-la adhibentur_fw-la esse_fw-la denique_fw-la episcopos_fw-la &_o presbyteros_fw-la qui_fw-la decidunt_fw-la res_fw-la ferendis_fw-la sententiis_fw-la and_o again_o cont._n 4._o lib._n 1._o c._n 15._o n._n 15._o qui_fw-la sine_fw-la authoritate_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la adjunt_fw-la eorum_fw-la alii_fw-la etiam_fw-la consultationibus_fw-la adhiberi_fw-la possunt_fw-la ut_fw-la docti_fw-la praetertim_fw-la ecclesiastici_fw-la sed_fw-la dicere_fw-la sententiam_fw-la definitivam_fw-la non_fw-la possunt_fw-la section_n 19_o i_o hear_v of_o two_o main_a objection_n which_o use_v to_o be_v be_v make_v against_o what_o i_o have_v be_v plead_v for_o and_o for_o the_o concurrence_n of_o the_o people_n in_o the_o exercise_n of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n 1._o that_o be_v allege_v of_o the_o magdeburg_n cent._n 2._o c._n 7._o p._n 134._o coeterum_fw-la si_fw-la quis_fw-la probatos_fw-la autores_fw-la huius_fw-la saeculi_fw-la perspiciat_fw-la videbit_fw-la formam_fw-la gubernationis_fw-la propemodum_fw-la 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d similem_fw-la fuisse_fw-la to_o which_o may_v be_v add_v that_o of_o learned_a whitak_n cont._n 4._o q._n 1._o c._n 1._o sic_fw-la partim_fw-la aristocraticum_fw-la partim_fw-la democraticum_fw-la partim_fw-la etiam_fw-la monarchicum_fw-la n._n si_fw-la velimus_fw-la christum_fw-la ipsum_fw-la respicere_fw-la as_o he_o say_v a_o little_a before_o est_fw-la semperque_fw-la fuit_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la regimen_fw-la answ_n that_o these_o author_n call_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n either_o much_o like_a unto_o a_o democraticall_a or_o in_o part_n democraticall_a their_o meaning_n and_o intention_n be_v not_o that_o the_o whole_a body_n of_o private_a professor_n do_v formal_o concur_v in_o the_o exercise_n of_o such_o act_n as_o be_v formal_o authoritative_a and_o judicial_a act_n of_o government_n which_o be_v requisite_a to_o make_v the_o government_n formal_o and_o proper_o democraticall_a either_o in_o whole_a or_o in_o part_n but_o only_a because_o of_o such_o thing_n competent_a to_o they_o as_o we_o have_v mention_v §_o 14._o which_o be_v no_o authoritative_a or_o judicial_a act_n of_o government_n and_o first_o for_o the_o magdeburg_n see_v how_o they_o explicate_v that_o which_o they_o say_v in_o the_o next_o follow_v word_n singulae_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la parem_fw-la habebant_fw-la potestatem_fw-la verbum_fw-la dei_fw-la pure_a docendi_fw-la sacramenta_fw-la administrandi_fw-la absolvendi_fw-la &_o excommunicandi_fw-la haereticos_fw-la &_o sceleratos_fw-la &_o ceremonias_fw-la ab_fw-la apostolis_n acceptas_fw-la exercendi_fw-la aut_fw-la etiam_fw-la pro_fw-la ratione_fw-la aedificationis_fw-la novas_fw-la condendi_fw-la ministros_fw-la eligendi_fw-la vocandi_fw-la ordinandi_fw-la &_o justissimas_fw-la ob_fw-la causas_fw-la iterum_fw-la deponendi_fw-la in_o these_o word_n there_o be_v two_o thing_n express_o observable_a to_o our_o purpose_n 1._o that_o they_o in_o explicate_v the_o democracy_n they_o speak_v of_o speak_v not_o of_o the_o power_n of_o single_a person_n as_o to_o matter_n of_o government_n but_o of_o single_a or_o particular_a church_n singulae_fw-la enim_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la say_v they_o parem_fw-la habebant_fw-la potestatem_fw-la etc._n 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numerous_a the_o christian_n in_o rome_n be_v become_v ere_o that_o time_n add_v to_o these_o thing_n that_o these_o same_o author_n cent._n 3._o c._n 7._o p._n 151._o say_v express_o that_o jus_o tractandi_fw-la de_fw-la excommunicandis_fw-la aut_fw-la recipiendis_fw-la publicae_fw-la lapsis_fw-la penes_fw-la seniores_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la erat_fw-la and_o cite_v tertul._n apolog._n for_o it_o read_v also_o c._n 6._o ejusdem_fw-la cent._n pag._n 129_o l._n 30._o
de_fw-la ritibus_fw-la circa_fw-la clave_n and_o you_o will_v find_v that_o the_o judicial_a power_n of_o discipline_n be_v not_o common_a to_o the_o people_n but_o proper_a to_o the_o minister_n only_o some_o interest_n therein_o be_v for_o honour_n sake_n give_v to_o martyr_n 2_o as_o to_o that_o cite_v from_o whittaker_n that_o learned_a theologue_n himself_o in_o the_o word_n immediate_o go_v before_o these_o cite_v clear_v in_o what_o respect_n it_o be_v that_o he_o say_v the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v always_o in_o part_n democraticall_a when_o he_o say_v si_fw-mi totum_fw-la corpus_fw-la ecclesiae_fw-la n._n volumus_fw-la respicere_fw-la quatenus_fw-la in_fw-la electione_n episcoporum_fw-la &_o presbyterorum_fw-la suffragia_fw-la serebat_fw-la ita_fw-la tamen_fw-la ●t_z 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d semper_fw-la à_fw-la presbyteris_fw-la servaretur_fw-la democraticum_fw-la so_o then_o he_o call_v it_o partly_o democraticall_a in_o this_o respect_n that_o the_o 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