the_o order_n of_o church_n affair_n which_o may_v be_v call_v {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o or_o potestas_fw-la a_o power_n which_o many_o time_n in_o common_a speech_n go_v under_o the_o name_n of_o rule_n or_o authority_n but_o in_o proper_a speech_n it_o be_v indeed_o a_o privilege_n or_o liberty_n a_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o or_o power_n rather_o than_o authority_n it_o be_v a_o common_a speech_n usual_a among_o our_o best_a divine_n that_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v mix_v of_o a_o monarchy_n a_o aristocracy_n and_o a_o democracy_n in_o regard_n of_o christ_n the_o head_n the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n be_v sovereign_a and_o monarchical_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o rule_n by_o the_o presbytery_n it_o be_v stewardly_a and_o aristocratical_a in_o regard_n of_o the_o people_n power_n in_o election_n and_o censure_n it_o be_v democratical_a chap._n 3._o touch_v the_o six_o contradiction_n the_o six_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o present_v 6._o examination_n be_v one_o of_o the_o high_a act_n of_o rule_n and_o therefore_o can_v be_v perform_v but_o by_o some_o ruler_n key_n pag._n 16._o the_o church_n can_v excommunicate_v the_o whole_a presbytery_n because_o they_o have_v not_o receive_v from_o christ_n a_o office_n of_o rule_n without_o their_o officer_n ibid._n no_o act_n of_o the_o people_n power_n do_v proper_o bind_v unless_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o presbytery_n join_v with_o it_o ibid._n pag._n 36._o 6._o if_o all_o their_o officer_n be_v find_v culpable_a either_o in_o heretical_a doctrine_n or_o in_o scandalous_a crime_n the_o church_n have_v lawful_a authority_n to_o proceed_v against_o they_o all_o the_o way_n pag._n 45._o in_o case_n of_o offence_n give_v by_o a_o elder_n or_o the_o whole_a eldership_n together_o the_o church_n have_v authority_n to_o require_v satisfaction_n and_o if_o they_o give_v it_o not_o to_o proceed_v to_o censure_v ibid._n page_n 101._o 6._o excommunication_n be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o the_o power_n of_o office_n but_o of_o judgement_n nor_o a_o act_n of_o high_a rule_n but_o of_o supreme_a judgement_n seat_v in_o the_o fraternity_n surv._n part_n 3._o pag._n 45._o as_o a_o church_n of_o brethren_n can_v not_o proceed_v to_o any_o public_a censure_n without_o the_o elder_n so_o nor_o the_o elder_n without_o concurrence_n of_o the_o people_n preface_n to_o the_o key_n pag._n 4._o answer_n 1._o here_o be_v indeed_o a_o discrepance_n in_o expression_n between_o the_o way_n and_o the_o key_n but_o it_o be_v not_o my_o act_n that_o any_o such_o discrepance_n shall_v have_v be_v extant_a the_o truth_n be_v that_o many_o year_n ago_o and_o some_o year_n before_o the_o suppress_n of_o the_o bishop_n in_o england_n i_o be_v serious_o move_v by_o some_o of_o our_o brethren_n and_o fellow_n elder_n here_o to_o draw_v up_o a_o historical_a narration_n of_o our_o churchway_n together_o with_o some_o familiar_a ground_n of_o the_o same_o brief_o in_o short_a time_n as_o god_n help_v i_o dispatch_v it_o which_o when_o our_o brethren_n have_v peruse_v i_o see_v they_o do_v not_o close_o with_o it_o yet_o a_o brother_n go_v for_o england_n get_v somewhere_o a_o copy_n of_o it_o and_o present_v it_o to_o some_o of_o the_o congregational_a way_n there_o and_o i_o afterwards_o hear_v that_o neither_o do_v they_o close_o with_o it_o and_o in_o particular_a not_o with_o that_o passage_n which_o be_v here_o recite_v as_o a_o part_n of_o the_o contradiction_n which_o since_o appear_v more_o open_o by_o the_o asterisk_n put_v upon_o that_o passage_n and_o upon_o sundry_a other_o in_o the_o book_n but_o before_o i_o see_v that_o and_o have_v only_o hear_v that_o they_o do_v not_o full_o accord_n i_o hope_v it_o have_v meet_v with_o a_o timely_a suppression_n rather_o than_o a_o impression_n for_o i_o hear_v no_o more_o of_o it_o for_o two_o or_o three_o year_n after_o mean_v while_n perceive_v that_o one_o main_a point_n of_o dissatisfaction_n be_v the_o authority_n give_v to_o the_o fraternity_n i_o consider_v more_o serious_o and_o distinct_o of_o the_o whole_a power_n of_o the_o key_n and_o express_v my_o apprehension_n in_o that_o treatise_n of_o the_o key_n which_o our_o brethren_n here_o do_v well_o accept_v and_o so_o do_v the_o brethren_n of_o like_a judgement_n in_o england_n and_o some_o of_o they_o be_v please_v to_o attest_v it_o with_o the_o preface_n which_o be_v now_o extant_a before_o it_o yea_o i_o have_v hear_v as_o well_o as_o some_o other_o of_o our_o brethren_n here_o by_o some_o letter_n from_o england_n that_o reverend_a mr_n rutherford_n who_o be_v a_o great_a part_n of_o the_o assembly_n at_o westminster_n offer_v to_o the_o dissent_a brethren_n that_o if_o they_o will_v come_v up_o to_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o key_n themselves_o will_v meet_v they_o there_o but_o this_o be_v sundry_a year_n after_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o way_n have_v be_v finish_v and_o carry_v to_o england_n and_o as_o i_o hope_v suppress_v but_o it_o seem_v some_o brother_n there_o have_v get_v a_o copy_n of_o it_o be_v zealous_a of_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o fraternity_n and_o perceive_v that_o their_o authority_n be_v not_o so_o full_o acknowledge_v in_o the_o key_n as_o in_o the_o way_n he_o cause_v his_o copy_n of_o the_o way_n which_o be_v indeed_o abrupt_a in_o the_o entrance_n and_o imperfect_a otherwise_o to_o be_v publish_v in_o print_n which_o when_o i_o see_v it_o trouble_v i_o not_o a_o little_a as_o know_v that_o the_o discrepant_a expression_n in_o the_o one_o and_o in_o the_o other_o may_v trouble_v friend_n and_o give_v advantage_n to_o adversary_n afterwards_o mr_n hooker_n come_v down_o from_o connectiquol_fw-it to_o consult_v with_o the_o elder_n here_o about_o his_o book_n he_o plead_v serious_o for_o the_o place_n of_o all_o church_n power_n primitive_o in_o the_o body_n of_o the_o church_n and_o also_o for_o their_o judiciary_n power_n of_o censure_n over_o the_o presbytery_n suitable_a to_o what_o i_o have_v deliver_v in_o the_o way_n now_o though_o i_o can_v say_v that_o his_o reason_n do_v prevail_v with_o i_o to_o lter_v the_o place_n of_o the_o first_o subject_n of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o key_n from_o what_o i_o have_v deliver_v in_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o key_n yet_o perceive_v that_o some_o man_n judgement_n do_v more_o adhere_v as_o to_o his_o judgement_n so_o to_o the_o former_a course_n of_o the_o way_n other_o to_o that_o of_o the_o key_n i_o suffer_v both_o to_o stand_v as_o they_o do_v especial_o see_v i_o can_v not_o help_v it_o the_o book_n of_o the_o way_n be_v publish_v without_o my_o consent_n and_o both_o the_o way_n and_o the_o key_n be_v disperse_v into_o many_o hand_n past_o my_o revoke_v and_o refute_v by_o some_o so_o that_o if_o the_o replyer_n find_v some_o discrepancy_n in_o one_o of_o these_o book_n from_o the_o other_o let_v he_o know_v that_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o way_n in_o such_o few_o point_n wherein_o it_o differ_v from_o the_o key_n be_v not_o then_o mine_n when_o the_o key_n be_v publish_v much_o less_o when_o the_o way_n be_v publish_v which_o be_v many_o year_n after_o though_o it_o have_v be_v pen_v many_o year_n before_o and_o yet_o take_v all_o the_o discrepancye_n and_o weigh_v they_o i_o will_v not_o say_v with_o candour_n but_o with_o rigour_n and_o i_o do_v not_o yet_o remember_v nor_o can_v i_o yet_o find_v any_o of_o they_o but_o they_o lie_v rather_o in_o difference_n of_o logical_a notion_n then_o in_o doctrine_n of_o divinity_n or_o church_n practice_n as_o i_o say_v before_o answer_n 2._o this_o further_a let_v i_o acquaint_v both_o the_o replier_n and_o the_o reader_n withal_o that_o sometime_o there_o have_v grow_v a_o question_n among_o we_o whether_o all_o excommunication_n be_v a_o act_n of_o officiaria_fw-la potestas_fw-la or_o not_o some_o honoraria_fw-la only_o if_o of_o officiaria_n it_o can_v be_v dispense_v by_o the_o brethren_n only_o as_o the_o first_o column_n have_v it_o if_o of_o honoraria_fw-la it_o may_v and_o so_o the_o second_o column_n have_v it_o and_o then_o the_o contradiction_n be_v not_o ejusdem_fw-la neither_o be_v this_o censure_n dispense_v by_o the_o brethren_n as_o i_o conceive_v one_o of_o the_o high_a act_n of_o rule_n which_o be_v to_o deliver_v unto_o satan_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 5._o but_o reach_v only_o to_o cast_v their_o elder_n out_o of_o administration_n of_o office_n to_o they_o and_o out_o of_o church_n communion_n with_o they_o the_o truth_n be_v ego_fw-la libenter_fw-la in_fw-la eorum_fw-la me_fw-la numero_fw-la esse_fw-la profiteor_fw-la qui_fw-la proficiendo_fw-la scribunt_fw-la and_o scribendo_fw-la proficiunt_fw-la which_o give_v i_o occasion_n to_o add_v the_o three_o answer_n give_v above_o to_o the_o first_o contradiction_n some_o thing_n in_o the_o
according_a to_o the_o several_a relation_n he_o stand_v in_o if_o it_o be_v say_v all_o that_o share_n in_o the_o subject_n to_o who_o the_o key_n be_v give_v in_o these_o word_n to_o thou_o they_o all_o share_n alike_o in_o the_o same_o equal_a power_n of_o the_o key_n because_o they_o have_v all_o the_o same_o commission_n i_o answer_v it_o will_v indeed_o so_o follow_v if_o there_o be_v no_o other_o several_a commission_n grant_v in_o scripture_n else_o where_o but_o only_o here_o but_o clear_v it_o be_v from_o other_o scripture_n that_o power_n of_o authoritative_a preach_v and_o administer_a the_o sacrament_n be_v give_v only_o to_o apostle_n elder_n and_o such_o like_a officer_n but_o power_n of_o privilege_n and_o judgement_n be_v give_v all_o the_o fraternity_n chap._n 6._o touch_v the_o 10_o contradiction_n with_o the_o 11_o 12_o 13_o the_o 10_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o hold_v forth_o 10._o pastor_n and_o flock_n be_v relate_v and_o so_o he_o be_v a_o pastor_n to_o none_o but_o his_o own_o congregation_n this_o be_v the_o common_a tenent_n 10._o the_o member_n of_o any_o church_n we_o admâ—t_v tâ—_z the_o lord_n table_n if_o they_o bring_v letter_n testimonial_a and_o their_o child_n to_o baptism_n the_o way_n p._n 68_o the_o key_n p._n 17._o 10._o administration_n of_o sacrament_n be_v a_o ministerial_a act_n and_o what_o authority_n have_v a_o pastor_n to_o do_v it_o or_o they_o to_o receive_v it_o from_o he_o to_o who_o he_o be_v no_o pastor_n mr._n hocker_n surv._n part._n 2._o 64_o 65._o pastor_n and_o teacher_n may_v pray_v and_o preach_v in_o other_o church_n beside_o their_o own_o but_o not_o administer_v seal_n and_o censure_n bartlet_n model_n pag._n 63._o answer_n 1._o that_o appearance_n of_o contradiction_n be_v easy_o remove_v if_o our_o doctrine_n and_o practice_n be_v know_v as_o it_o be_v what_o a_o pastor_n do_v in_o his_o own_o congregation_n and_o to_o his_o own_o flock_n he_o do_v it_o by_o pastoral_a power_n and_o authority_n what_o he_o do_v to_o the_o member_n of_o other_o church_n abroad_o or_o out_o of_o his_o own_o congregation_n he_o do_v it_o not_o authoritatiuè_a but_o precariò_fw-la and_o not_o in_o a_o constant_a but_o in_o a_o transient_a way_n which_o the_o communion_n of_o church_n do_v not_o only_o admit_v but_o ready_o as_o occasion_n serve_v desire_v what_o mr_n hooker_n doubt_v of_o in_o this_o point_n he_o answer_v himself_o in_o the_o end_n of_o the_o same_o pag._n 65._o if_o paul_n apollo_n and_o cephas_n thing_n present_a and_o thing_n to_o come_v be_v all_o give_v to_o the_o particular_a church_n of_o corinth_n 1_o cor._n 3._o 22._o who_o yet_o have_v no_o peculiar_a interest_n in_o they_o more_o than_o other_o church_n by_o the_o same_o right_n all_o the_o officer_n and_o all_o their_o gift_n be_v they_o also_o in_o the_o same_o way_n they_o they_o be_v not_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o for_o each_o church_n have_v his_o peculiar_a office_n as_o their_o own_o propriety_n then_o they_o be_v they_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o {non-roman}_o for_o their_o use_n not_o authoritative_o nor_o ordinary_o but_o occasional_o as_o god_n give_v opportunity_n ordinary_o as_o the_o officer_n must_v attend_v to_o their_o own_o flock_n so_o must_v the_o flock_n depend_v upon_o their_o own_o officer_n the_o officer_n have_v no_o authority_n over_o any_o flock_n but_o that_o which_o the_o holy_a ghost_n have_v commit_v to_o they_o neither_o can_v any_o other_o flock_n command_v the_o employment_n of_o any_o of_o their_o gift_n or_o any_o act_n of_o their_o office_n among_o they_o but_o upon_o occasion_n in_o a_o transient_a way_n as_o they_o may_v have_v need_n of_o their_o gift_n so_o they_o may_v have_v need_n of_o some_o act_n of_o their_o office_n and_o according_o may_v desire_v it_o and_o receive_v it_o the_o 11_o contradiction_n which_o be_v thus_o set_v forth_o 11._o we_o receive_v the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o lord_n supper_n say_v the_o same_o of_o of_o baptism_n as_o a_o seâ—le_n of_o communion_n not_o only_o with_o the_o lord_n jesus_n in_o our_o own_o church_n but_o in_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n key_n pag._n 17._o del._n of_o 9_o posit_n pag._n 133_o 134._o 11._o baptism_n and_o so_o the_o other_o sacrament_n seal_v up_o the_o external_a communion_n with_o a_o particular_a church_n etc._n etc._n mr_n h._n surv._n part._n 3._o pag._n 27._o and_o he_o dispute_v against_o it_o as_o to_o the_o catholic_n church_n answer_n when_o we_o say_v that_o the_o sacrament_n be_v seal_n of_o communion_n with_o the_o lord_n jesus_n not_o only_o in_o our_o own_o church_n but_o in_o all_o the_o church_n of_o the_o saint_n we_o do_v not_o mean_v that_o they_o seal_v up_o the_o same_o measure_n of_o external_a communion_n with_o other_o church_n as_o with_o our_o own_o they_o do_v not_o seal_v up_o this_o communion_n that_o their_o officer_n be_v our_o officer_n and_o we_o their_o flock_n or_o that_o we_o have_v the_o same_o power_n over_o they_o which_o we_o have_v over_o our_o own_o member_n this_o be_v to_o seal_v up_o not_o a_o communion_n but_o a_o confusion_n of_o church_n and_o this_o be_v that_o which_o mr_n hooker_n in_o the_o place_n allege_v do_v deny_v as_o ourselves_o also_o do_v the_o 12_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o declare_v 12._o it_o be_v a_o act_n of_o the_o elder_n power_n and_o authority_n to_o examine_v whether_o officer_n or_o member_n before_o they_o be_v receive_v of_o the_o church_n keyes_n pag_n 21._o 12._o as_o for_o admission_n election_n ordination_n of_o officer_n admission_n or_o shut_v out_o of_o member_n these_o thing_n the_o brethren_n may_v do_v without_o officer_n the_o way_n p._n 45._o 101_o answer_n the_o answer_n be_v obvious_a what_o the_o elder_n do_v in_o this_o kind_n ex_fw-la officio_fw-la the_o church_n may_v do_v the_o like_a in_o the_o want_n of_o elder_n the_o 13_o contradiction_n be_v set_v before_o we_o thus_o 13._o ordination_n be_v then_o complete_a when_o the_o people_n have_v choose_v a_o officer_n and_o the_o presbytery_n have_v lay_v their_o hand_n on_o he_o keyes_n p._n 37._o 13._o but_o if_o the_o church_n want_v a_o presbytery_n for_o want_v of_o elder_n they_o want_v a_o warrant_n to_o repair_v to_o the_o presbytery_n of_o another_o church_n to_o impose_v hand_n upon_o their_o elect_a elder_n way_n p._n 50._o answer_n in_o that_o place_n of_o the_o key_n i_o only_o assert_v and_o prove_v that_o a_o man_n of_o sufficient_a gift_n choose_v by_o the_o people_n of_o the_o church_n and_o ordain_v by_o the_o presbytery_n of_o his_o own_o church_n want_v nothing_o to_o the_o complete_a integrity_n of_o his_o call_n the_o right_a hand_n of_o fellowship_n give_v by_o the_o elder_n of_o other_o church_n express_v their_o approbation_n of_o his_o call_n but_o add_v nothing_o to_o the_o essence_n or_o integrity_n of_o his_o call_n but_o when_o i_o say_v that_o in_o want_n of_o a_o presbytery_n of_o their_o own_o they_o want_v a_o warrant_n to_o repair_v to_o the_o presbytery_n of_o another_o church_n for_o his_o ordination_n i_o nowhere_o say_v that_o the_o officer_n elect_v want_v the_o complete_a integrity_n of_o his_o call_n for_o want_v of_o the_o imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o the_o presbytery_n of_o another_o church_n and_o yet_o that_o have_v be_v requisite_a to_o make_v up_o a_o pretence_n of_o a_o contradiction_n the_o replyer_n know_v that_o a_o church_n want_v a_o presbytery_n of_o their_o own_o to_o lay_v hand_n upon_o a_o elect_a officer_n in_o our_o judgement_n they_o may_v appoint_v some_o of_o the_o elder_n and_o grave_a member_n of_o their_o own_o body_n to_o supply_v the_o defect_n of_o their_o own_o presbytery_n which_o we_o account_v sufficient_a to_o the_o complete_n of_o his_o call_n in_o such_o a_o case_n but_o when_o i_o say_v in_o the_o way_n that_o the_o church_n want_v a_o presbytery_n they_o want_v a_o warrant_n to_o repair_v to_o the_o 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it_o may_v be_v they_o think_v it_o needless_a to_o publish_v further_a declaration_n because_o over_o and_o above_o the_o former_a declaration_n there_o have_v be_v since_o publish_v three_o or_o four_o pithy_a pregnant_a declaration_n of_o the_o same_o argument_n as_o mr_n hooker_n surv_n mr_n nortons_n answer_n to_o apollonius_n the_o synod_n at_o cambridge_n the_o defence_n of_o the_o answer_n to_o the_o nine_o question_n 2._o it_o may_v be_v they_o fear_v if_o they_o shall_v publish_v more_o declaration_n in_o this_o case_n it_o will_v add_v rather_o more_o fuel_n to_o contention_n then_o prevail_v with_o the_o spirit_n of_o man_n contrary_a mind_a to_o receive_v satisfaction_n chap._n 9_o touch_v the_o 20_o contradiction_n and_o 21._o the_o 20_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o express_v 20._o it_o be_v general_o assert_v by_o they_o that_o one_o church_n have_v not_o power_n to_o censure_v another_o 20._o a_o synod_n have_v power_n to_o determine_v to_o withdraw_v communion_n from_o 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advise_v by_o they_o then_o it_o be_v also_o that_o they_o walk_v in_o orderly_a subjection_n to_o their_o elder_n heb._n 13._o 17._o but_o the_o latter_a column_n speak_v of_o the_o power_n of_o the_o church_n over_o the_o elder_n chief_o in_o case_n of_o the_o elder_n maladministration_n of_o their_o office_n or_o misgovernment_n of_o themselves_o but_o then_o the_o power_n which_o the_o church_n put_v forth_o it_o be_v not_o office_n power_n which_o be_v proper_o authority_n but_o potestas_fw-la honoraria_fw-la answer_n 2._o in_o column_n the_o second_o when_o it_o be_v say_v the_o people_n have_v some_o stock_n of_o power_n and_o authority_n in_o the_o government_n of_o the_o church_n keyes_n pag._n 36._o they_o be_v the_o word_n of_o a_o objection_n not_o of_o my_o own_o assertion_n and_o though_o somewhere_o i_o speak_v of_o act_n of_o authority_n over_o the_o elder_n i_o do_v clear_o explain_v myself_o in_o the_o key_n pag._n 36._o that_o authority_n be_v take_v in_o a_o large_a 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way_n which_o i_o deliver_v more_o lax_o i_o express_v more_o distinct_o in_o the_o treatise_n of_o the_o key_n which_o follow_v after_o and_o some_o thing_n more_o full_o and_o clear_o in_o the_o way_n clear_v then_o in_o either_o of_o the_o former_a answer_n 3._o when_o i_o say_v no_o act_n of_o the_o people_n part_n do_v proper_o bind_v unless_o the_o authority_n of_o the_o elder_a join_v with_o it_o key_n pag._n 36._o i_o will_v be_v understand_v to_o speak_v it_o as_o i_o mean_v it_o of_o the_o elder_n walk_v without_o offence_n in_o the_o right_a administration_n of_o their_o office_n and_o conversation_n of_o their_o life_n answer_n 4._o when_o mr_n hooker_n say_v excommunication_n be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o office_n power_n nor_o of_o rule_n but_o of_o supreme_a judgement_n seat_v in_o the_o fraternity_n i_o easy_o grant_v that_o the_o excommunication_n dispense_v by_o the_o fraternity_n be_v not_o a_o act_n of_o office-power_n but_o it_o may_v just_o be_v inquire_v whether_o 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labour_v in_o word_n and_o doctrine_n the_o key_n pag._n 16._o 7._o there_o be_v a_o key_n of_o power_n give_v to_o the_o church_n with_o the_o elder_n as_o to_o open_v a_o door_n of_o entrance_n to_o the_o minister_n call_v so_o to_o shut_v the_o door_n of_o entrance_n against_o they_o in_o some_o case_n etc._n etc._n the_o key_n p._n 9_o yea_o to_o censure_n all_o their_o elder_n without_o elder_n the_o way_n p._n 45._o as_o before_o ans._n the_o power_n give_v to_o the_o commissary_n chancellor_n and_o i_o just_o call_v a_o sacrlegious_a breach_n of_o order_n in_o more_o respect_n than_o one_o 1._o in_o that_o be_v no_o minister_n they_o exercise_v more_o than_o ministerial_a authority_n over_o the_o elder_n for_o minister_n do_v not_o exercise_v authority_n over_o elder_n no_o nor_o over_o any_o brother_n but_o with_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n but_o these_o do_v it_o without_o and_o against_o the_o consent_n of_o the_o church_n 2._o in_o that_o they_o exercise_v this_o 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thus_o 8._o we_o be_v so_o far_o from_o allow_v that_o sacrilegious_a usurpation_n of_o the_o minister_n office_n that_o private_a christian_n ordinary_o take_v upon_o they_o to_o preach_v the_o gospel_n public_o the_o key_n pag_n 6._o 8._o this_o be_v ordinary_o practise_v in_o england_n and_o allow_v by_o the_o independent_a brethren_n yea_o they_o be_v but_o in_o the_o notion_n of_o gift_a brethren_n no_o minister_n to_o other_o congregation_n do_v it_o ordinary_o themselves_o ans._n 1._o this_o contradiction_n be_v not_o of_o i_o to_o my_o self_n but_o of_o some_o other_o who_o whether_o they_o be_v independent_n true_o so_o call_v i_o do_v not_o know_v sure_o i_o be_o that_o presbyterian_n and_o independent_n be_v not_o membra_fw-la dividentia_fw-la though_o i_o see_v that_o all_o that_o be_v not_o for_o popery_n or_o episcopacy_n or_o presbytery_n do_v common_o lurk_v under_o the_o style_n of_o independency_n i_o hope_v the_o replyer_n will_v be_v loath_a to_o renounce_v the_o 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p._n 45._o 14._o in_o act._n 13._o 2_o 3._o there_o be_v no_o ordination_n to_o office_n at_o all_o for_o the_o apostle_n have_v their_o office_n before_o mr._n hooker_n surv._n part._n 2._o p._n 83._o this_o be_v not_o to_o put_v a_o new_a office_n upon_o they_o but_o to_o confirm_v their_o send_n to_o the_o gentile_n ib._n p._n 60._o 14._o this_o be_v do_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n key_n p._n 29._o the_o officer_n of_o one_o church_n do_v what_o be_v do_v in_o a_o ordinary_a way_n surv._n parr_n 2._o p._n 83._o then_o it_o follow_v by_o mr._n c._n his_o doctrine_n that_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v officer_n in_o all_o church_n be_v ordain_v in_o a_o particular_a church_n or_o that_o officer_n of_o a_o church_n may_v be_v ordain_v in_o another_o church_n which_o he_o say_v be_v unwarrantable_a ans._n 1._o when_o i_o say_v in_o the_o way_n that_o paul_n and_o barnabas_n be_v ordain_v to_o the_o apostolic_a office_n by_o imposition_n of_o hand_n of_o some_o officer_n of_o the_o 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condemn_v they_o unto_o death_n unless_o they_o become_v blasphemer_n or_o idolator_n or_o seducer_n to_o idolatry_n what_o christ_n and_o moses_n do_v both_o of_o they_o tolerate_v the_o servant_n of_o christ_n need_v not_o to_o be_v ashamed_a of_o such_o toleration_n ans._n 2._o this_o contradiction_n for_o aught_o i_o can_v discern_v labour_v also_o crimine_fw-la falsi_fw-la for_o it_o seem_v a_o manifest_a untruth_n what_o he_o speak_v in_o column_n 2._o that_o the_o brethren_n call_v for_o or_o tolerate_v toleration_n of_o all_o opinion_n and_o deny_v the_o magistrate_n power_n to_o punish_v any_o pretend_v conscience_n mr_n bartlet_n allege_v for_o the_o proof_n hereof_o p._n 128._o say_v no_o such_o thing_n and_o the_o contrary_a he_o prove_v from_o the_o express_a testimony_n of_o mr_n burrough_n mr_n thomas_n goodwin_n and_o other_o of_o that_o way_n the_o 8_o chapt._n touch_v the_o 17_o contradiction_n with_o 18._o 19_o the_o 17_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o set_v forth_o 17._o visible_a saint_n though_o they_o be_v hypocrite_n inward_o be_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o visible_a church_n mr._n hook_n part_n 1._o p._n 14._o 15._o 17._o you_o say_v saint_n in_o outward_a profession_n be_v the_o matter_n of_o a_o congregational_a church_n we_o judge_v that_o real_a saint_n utter_v in_o discourse_n the_o breathe_n of_o the_o holy_a spirit_n and_o experience_n of_o conversion_n interest_v in_o a_o strict_a conversation_n to_o be_v the_o matter_n dr._n holmes_n epistle_n to_o way_n clear_v pag._n 4._o mr._n bartlet_n speak_v something_o this_o language_n can_v there_o be_v ability_n for_o spiritual_a and_o holy_a service_n where_o the_o spirit_n be_v not_o yet_o give_v can_v there_o be_v communion_n between_o light_n and_o darkness_n can_v they_o edify_v one_o another_o in_o the_o faith_n that_o have_v not_o the_o work_n of_o faith_n wrought_v in_o they_o model_n p._n 57_o see_v more_o pag._n 103._o ans._n what_o mr_n hooker_n judgement_n be_v be_v express_v in_o that_o first_o column_n what_o my_o own_o be_v declare_v and_o i_o hope_v clear_v in_o the_o holiness_n of_o church-member_n what_o dr_n holmes_n and_o mr_n bartlet_n do_v further_o require_v in_o it_o they_o declare_v what_o church-member_n ought_v to_o be_v de_fw-fr jure_fw-la especial_o in_o their_o first_o constitution_n rather_o than_o what_o they_o be_v or_o be_v wont_a to_o be_v de_fw-la facto_fw-la especial_o in_o their_o declension_n again_o i_o see_v mr_n bartlet_n speak_v in_o opposition_n to_o the_o member_n of_o the_o parish_n church_n who_o be_v in_o many_o place_n ignorant_a loose_a profane_a and_o scandalous_a liver_n who_o be_v not_o indeed_o visible_a saint_n pag._n 56._o it_o be_v true_a there_o be_v some_o work_n of_o the_o spirit_n where_o ever_o there_o be_v a_o visible_a saint_n but_o the_o spirit_n give_v many_o gift_n to_o the_o edification_n of_o other_o as_o to_o judas_n and_o demas_n which_o often_o do_v not_o reach_v to_o the_o regeneration_n of_o he_o that_o receive_v they_o the_o 18_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o state_v 18._o the_o form_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n be_v the_o covenant_n either_o explicit_a or_o implicit_a and_o the_o latter_a be_v sometime_o full_o sufficient_a mr._n h._n surv._n part_n 1._o pag._n 47._o 48_o and_o other_o 18._o you_o say_v a_o implicit_a unite_n viz._n a_o walk_v and_o communicate_v with_o you_o be_v a_o sufficient_a evidence_n of_o the_o form_n we_o say_v their_o folemne_a confession_n of_o their_o faith_n and_o express_v open_a covenant_n with_o the_o lord_n to_o wake_v with_o such_o a_o body_n of_o saint_n in_o all_o the_o way_n of_o christ_n to_o be_v the_o manifest_a form_n d._n holmes_n ibid._n 18._o it_o be_v not_o general_a profession_n will_v serve_v the_o turn_n but_o there_o must_v be_v a_o peculiar_a engagement_n and_o appropriation_n to_o this_o or_o that_o particular_a body_n mr._n h._n surv._n pag_n 63._o yet_o he_o say_v a_o implicit_a covenant_n be_v sufficient_a ans._n the_o 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form_n of_o the_o church_n though_o not_o so_o manifest_v but_o more_o obscure_a the_o 19_o contradiction_n be_v thus_o delineate_v 19_o we_o crave_v leave_v of_o the_o author_n of_o the_o key_n to_o declare_v that_o we_o assent_n not_o to_o all_o expression_n or_o all_o and_o every_o assertion_n in_o it_o as_o in_o these_o particular_n about_o the_o prothesy_n of_o private_a brethren_n 2._o that_o the_o assembly_n act._n 15._o be_v a_o formal_a syne_v 3._o that_o the_o apostle_n act_v in_o it_o as_o ordinary_a elder_n preface_n to_o key_n pag._n 6._o 19_o we_o do_v in_o this_o epistle_n certify_v our_o assent_n to_o the_o way_n of_o the_o church_n of_o new_a england_n save_v that_o we_o do_v not_o full_o close_a with_o some_o expression_n passim_fw-la in_o the_o bock_n before_o some_o of_o which_o 10_o at_o least_o belike_o there_o be_v more_o we_o mind_v to_o note_n a_o star_n in_o the_o margin_n this_o we_o can_v not_o but_o say_v and_o do_v pace_fw-la authoris_fw-la or_o we_o can_v 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