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A62668 To receive the Lords Supper, the actual right and duty of all church-members of years not excommunicate made good against Mr. Collins his exceptions against The bar removed, written by the author : and what right the ignorant and scandalous tolerated in the church have to the Lords Supper declared : many thing belonging to that controversie more fully discussed, tending much to the peace and settlement of the church : and also a ful answer to what Mr. Collins hath written in defence of juridical suspension, wherein his pretended arguments from Scripture are examined and confuted : to which is also annexed A brief answer to the Antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders / by John Timson ... Timson, John.; Timson, John. Brief answer to the antidiatribe written by Mr. Saunders. 1655 (1655) Wing T1296; ESTC R1970 185,323 400

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the_o same_o which_o in_o other_o he_o conceive_v unsound_a 2._o what_o shall_v be_v do_v with_o the_o child_n of_o the_o most_o godly_a when_o they_o be_v grow_v up_o if_o profession_n without_o true_a holiness_n do_v not_o continue_v such_o member_n forasmuch_o that_o there_o be_v no_o rule_n leave_v to_o dismember_v for_o ignorance_n or_o want_n of_o the_o work_n of_o true_a holiness_n regeneration_n etc._n etc._n member_n such_o be_v not_o only_o by_o birth_n but_o formal_o by_o the_o church_n approbational_a act_n of_o baptism_n they_o be_v so_o far_o from_o renounce_v or_o forsake_v their_o christian_a profession_n that_o they_o adhere_v to_o the_o external_a part_n of_o it_o and_o be_v not_o scandalous_a they_o neither_o fall_v off_o nor_o be_v cut_v off_o by_o any_o rule_n or_o act_v of_o censure_n what_o hinder_v they_o but_o that_o such_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o church_n and_o have_v a_o true_a right_n to_o all_o the_o external_a privilege_n of_o membership_n 3._o if_o positive_a unbelief_n in_o deny_v the_o person_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n on_o who_o the_o church_n be_v build_v cut_v off_o person_n from_o the_o church_n as_o be_v clear_o speak_v of_o the_o jew_n rom._n 11._o then_o the_o contrary_a to_o that_o infidelity_n which_o be_v a_o real_a own_n and_o profess_v the_o person_n and_o ordinance_n of_o christ_n continue_v those_o that_o be_v member_n bear_v to_o be_v member_n so_o long_o as_o they_o hold_v to_o the_o christian_a profession_n excommunication_n dismember_v but_o conditional_o for_o in_o case_n the_o offender_n external_o reform_v and_o hold_v to_o his_o profession_n and_o promise_v amendment_n he_o ought_v to_o be_v loose_v from_o that_o censure_n but_o i_o hasten_v what_o shall_v minister_n do_v while_o government_n be_v unsettle_a query_n 5_o and_o their_o people_n opposite_a to_o way_n of_o reformation_n 1._o shall_v they_o give_v the_o sacrament_n promiscuous_o to_o all_o 2._o shall_v they_o by_o their_o own_o antiquity_n exclude_v the_o unfit_a 3._o or_o shall_v they_o whole_o desist_v to_o the_o last_o he_o answer_v that_o the_o use_n of_o the_o ordinance_n of_o the_o supper_n be_v so_o necessary_a as_o that_o it_o may_v not_o always_o nor_o long_v be_v discontinue_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n do_v this_o require_v obedience_n this_o he_o say_v be_v well_o prove_v by_o mr._n joane_n but_o yet_o he_o do_v not_o close_o with_o he_o in_o another_o point_n namely_o that_o while_o the_o church_n be_v undisciplined_a the_o sacrament_n may_v be_v administer_v in_o every_o congregation_n without_o any_o separation_n but_o he_o conceive_v that_o the_o lord_n supper_n can_v be_v holy_o transact_v by_o any_o unless_o the_o scandalous_a be_v remove_v etc._n etc._n pag._n 169._o 1._o answ_n it_o be_v a_o question_n whether_o their_o people_n be_v opposite_a to_o true_a reformation_n or_o no_o because_o they_o be_v never_o yet_o try_v with_o it_o and_o therefore_o who_o can_v tell_v whether_o they_o 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