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A55393 Quo warranto, or, A moderate enquiry into the warrantablenesse of the preaching of gifted and unordained persons where also some other questions are discussed : viz. concerning [brace] ministerial relation, election, ordination : being a vindication of the late Jus divinum ministerii evangeliei ... from the exceptions of Mr. John Martin, Mr. Sam. Pette, Mr. Frederick Woodal ... in their late book, intituled The preacher sent / by Matthew Poole ... Poole, Matthew, 1624-1679. 1659 (1659) Wing P2850; ESTC R33938 110,108 175

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the_o effect_n of_o such_o a_o revelation_n that_o it_o give_v a_o stop_n to_o the_o other_o discourse_n 4._o that_o this_o revelation_n be_v not_o common_a to_o all_o the_o church_n but_o peculiar_a to_o these_o prophet_n and_o not_o common_a to_o all_o the_o prophet_n neither_o but_o peculiar_a to_o one_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d some_o one_o that_o sit_v by_o and_o therefore_o sure_o it_o can_v be_v the_o revelation_n by_o the_o word_n which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o prophet_n yea_o all_o the_o church_n nor_o be_v there_o any_o weight_n in_o what_o be_v further_o object_v by_o our_o brethren_n that_o if_o this_o revelation_n shall_v command_v silence_n to_o a_o prophet_n speak_v by_o immediate_a revelation_n than_o the_o same_o spirit_n shall_v clash_v with_o itself_o for_o though_o these_o prophet_n do_v speak_v
there_o be_v none_o but_o those_o who_o be_v to_o be_v make_v disciple_n who_o be_v to_o be_v convert_v so_o that_o one_o of_o these_o two_o must_v necessary_o be_v grant_v either_o that_o the_o apostolical_a relation_n want_v a_o correlatum_fw-la which_o to_o say_v be_v gross_o absurd_a or_o that_o the_o heathen_n and_o jew_n to_o be_v convert_v be_v the_o correlatum_fw-la to_o they_o there_o be_v but_o one_o thing_n that_o can_v be_v say_v to_o wit_n that_o at_o that_o time_n there_o be_v divers_a already_o convert_v christian_n who_o be_v a_o sufficient_a correlatum_fw-la to_o the_o apostolical_a office_n to_o which_o i_o answer_v if_o we_o suppose_v that_o all_o such_o christian_n have_v die_v or_o forsake_v the_o profession_n of_o the_o faith_n which_o may_v have_v fall_v out_o without_o any_o detriment_n to_o the_o perpetuity_n of_o the_o church_n see_v the_o essence_n of_o the_o church_n have_v be_v preserve_v in_o the_o apostle_n if_o they_o only_o have_v continue_v in_o the_o faith_n i_o say_v suppose_v they_o all_o have_v thus_o fall_v away_o yet_o have_v the_o apostle_n be_v officer_n and_o therefore_o the_o heathen_n have_v be_v their_o correlatum_fw-la 2._o and_o such_o indeed_o be_v clear_o express_v matth._n 28._o 19_o 20._o to_o be_v the_o primary_n and_o immediate_a object_n of_o the_o apostolical_a office_n and_o relation_n from_o whence_o will_v follow_v that_o a_o minister_n may_v be_v a_o minister_n though_o he_o have_v no_o particular_a church_n to_o which_o he_o stand_v relate_v just_o as_o the_o eunuch_n be_v a_o member_n of_o the_o church_n visible_a though_o there_o be_v no_o particular_a church_n into_o which_o he_o be_v admit_v act_v 8._o the_o only_a probable_a answer_n which_o i_o can_v apprehend_v be_v this_o that_o the_o argument_n no_o way_n hold_v from_o apostle_n to_o ordinary_a minister_n but_o in_o this_o case_n i_o conceive_v it_o do_v for_o 1._o the_o apostle_n as_o well_o as_o pastor_n say_v our_o brethren_n be_v officer_n only_o to_o the_o church_n chap._n 3._o p._n 18._o they_o say_v of_o minister_n that_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o they_o to_o go_v and_o preach_v to_o unbeliever_n and_o they_o instance_n in_o the_o apostle_n preach_v to_o heathen_n act_n 11._o &_o 16._o and_o yet_o say_v they_o they_o be_v no_o officer_n to_o such_o unbeliever_n whereby_o it_o be_v plain_a that_o they_o deny_v not_o only_o ordinary_a pastor_n but_o also_o apostle_n to_o be_v officer_n to_o heathen_n which_o also_o further_o appear_v by_o the_o reason_n they_o add_v why_o such_o minister_n be_v no_o officer_n to_o heathen_n which_o be_v common_a to_o apostle_n with_o other_o minister_n viz._n because_o they_o can_v as_o officer_n exercise_v church-government_n towards_o they_o which_o hold_v true_a even_o of_o the_o apostle_n what_o have_v we_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v they_o that_o be_v without_o 1_o cor._n 5._o now_o if_o the_o apostle_n who_o be_v according_a to_o our_o brethren_n only_a church-officer_n yet_o act_v as_o officer_n towards_o such_o as_o be_v whole_o without_o the_o church_n and_o towards_o heathen_n much_o more_o be_v it_o true_a of_o ordinary_a pastor_n that_o albeit_o they_o be_v officer_n in_o special_a to_o their_o particular_a flock_n yet_o they_o be_v officer_n and_o act_n as_o officer_n towards_o other_o church_n 2._o apostle_n and_o pastor_n be_v parallel_v in_o this_o case_n eph._n 4._o 11_o 12._o and_o he_o give_v some_o apostle_n and_o some_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n for_o the_o perfect_a of_o the_o saint_n for_o the_o work_n of_o the_o ministry_n for_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ._n from_o whence_o it_o be_v most_o evident_a that_o the_o object_n of_o the_o apostolical_a and_o pastoral_a office_n be_v one_o and_o the_o same_o both_o of_o they_o be_v by_o office_n relate_v to_o the_o saint_n not_o only_o that_o be_v actual_o bring_v in_o but_o also_o to_o those_o that_o be_v to_o be_v gather_v and_o the_o office_n be_v appoint_v and_o the_o officer_n bestow_v for_o this_o very_a end_n for_o the_o edify_n of_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n by_o which_o body_n of_o christ_n we_o must_v with_o judicious_a interpreter_n necessary_o understand_v the_o whole_a collection_n of_o all_o christ_n member_n in_o all_o age_n of_o the_o church_n all_o which_o in_o scripture_n phrase_n go_v to_o the_o make_v up_o of_o christ_n body_n so_o that_o if_o one_o of_o they_o be_v lack_v jesus_n christ_n shall_v want_v his_o fullness_n as_o he_o be_v please_v to_o express_v himself_o eph._n 1._o 21._o and_o answerable_o to_o this_o the_o word_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d or_o edify_v be_v not_o to_o be_v understand_v as_o in_o some_o other_o place_n for_o build_v up_o of_o such_o as_o be_v bring_v in_o only_a but_o also_o for_o the_o bring_n in_o of_o those_o who_o be_v yet_o without_o for_o that_o indeed_o be_v the_o great_a end_n why_o the_o ministry_n be_v institute_v mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o and_o the_o very_a phrase_n of_o building_n imply_v as_o well_o the_o gather_v together_o of_o stone_n for_o the_o building_n and_o the_o lay_n of_o the_o foundation_n as_o the_o raise_n up_o of_o the_o build_n and_o the_o nature_n of_o the_o body_n as_o we_o have_v now_o explain_v it_o necessary_o require_v that_o this_o edify_n shall_v be_v understand_v extensive_o as_o well_o as_o intensive_o i_o shall_v contract_v all_o this_o into_o a_o short_a syllogism_n the_o body_n of_o christ_n in_o its_o latitude_n be_v the_o correlatum_fw-la or_o the_o object_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n but_o the_o body_n of_o christ_n include_v heathen_n therefore_o heathen_n to_o be_v convert_v be_v the_o object_n and_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n the_o major_n be_v plain_a from_o the_o text_n and_o what_o have_v be_v say_v the_o minor_a also_o be_v no_o less_o evident_a that_o heathen_n be_v a_o part_n of_o christ_n body_n they_o be_v call_v his_o sheep_n john_n 10._o 16._o other_o sheep_n i_o have_v which_o be_v not_o of_o this_o fold_n heathen_n to_o be_v convert_v christ_n lay_v down_o his_o life_n for_o else_o they_o have_v never_o be_v convert_v and_o yet_o he_o lay_v down_o his_o life_n only_o for_o his_o body_n eph._n 5._o and_o therefore_o they_o be_v his_o member_n and_o part_n of_o his_o body_n and_o therefore_o they_o be_v the_o object_n and_o correlate_n of_o the_o pastoral_n office_n and_o as_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o all_o age_n to_o wit_n include_v person_n yet_o uncalled_a aug._n but_o by_o election_n belong_v to_o it_o be_v the_o correlatum_fw-la of_o the_o minister_n and_o ministerial_a office_n in_o all_o age_n so_o the_o whole_a church_n in_o one_o age_n include_v such_o as_o by_o predestination_n though_o not_o yet_o by_o actual_a vocation_n and_o congregation_n belong_v to_o it_o be_v the_o correlate_n of_o the_o minister_n and_o ministerial_a office_n in_o that_o one_o age_n so_o that_o not_o only_o a_o particular_a church_n be_v the_o correlate_n of_o a_o minister_n but_o also_o such_o as_o be_v not_o yet_o member_n of_o any_o particular_a church_n nor_o of_o any_o church_n at_o all_o the_o second_o argument_n may_v be_v take_v from_o 2_o cor._n 5._o 20._o where_o the_o reconcilable_a world_n which_o consist_v of_o such_o as_o be_v yet_o without_o and_o no_o member_n of_o the_o church_n be_v make_v the_o chief_a object_n and_o correlatum_fw-la of_o the_o office_n of_o the_o ministry_n and_o from_o thence_o i_o shall_v thus_o argue_v to_o who_o minister_n act_n as_o ambassador_n to_o they_o they_o act_n as_o officer_n but_o minister_n preach_v as_o ambassador_n to_o heathen_n convertible_a and_o to_o be_v convert_v ergo._fw-la the_o proposition_n be_v evident_a from_o the_o term_n to_o be_v a_o ambassador_n be_v nothing_o else_o but_o to_o be_v a_o officer_n and_o it_o may_v receive_v further_a light_n and_o strength_n from_o this_o consideration_n that_o minister_n be_v not_o ambassador_n a_o pari_fw-la ad_fw-la parem_fw-la from_o one_o king_n to_o another_o as_o equal_a but_o a_o superiori_fw-la ad_fw-la inferiorem_fw-la from_o one_o superior_a in_o authority_n to_o all_o from_o a_o prince_n to_o his_o subject_n who_o he_o be_v call_v in_o from_o one_o who_o may_v and_o do_v require_v all_o heathen_n as_o well_o as_o other_o to_o hear_v and_o obey_v his_o ambassador_n i_o mean_v from_o the_o lord_n christ._n for_o the_o assumption_n that_o minister_n preach_v to_o heathen_n do_v preach_v as_o ambassador_n where_o all_o the_o doubt_n lie_v i_o proceed_v to_o make_v good_a 1._o if_o the_o scripture_n make_v no_o difference_n between_o a_o minister_n preach_v to_o his_o own_o church_n and_o to_o other_o then_o there_o be_v no_o difference_n ubi_fw-la lex_fw-la non_fw-la distinguit_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la distinguendum_fw-la but_o the_o scripture_n make_v no_o difference_n etc._n etc._n wherever_o a_o minister_n preach_v he_o
be_v to_o preach_v with_o all_o authority_n stranger_n be_v as_o well_o oblige_v to_o obey_v he_o as_o his_o own_o people_n 2._o even_o heathen_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v minister_n preach_v to_o they_o and_o that_o not_o only_a ex_fw-la vi_fw-la materiae_fw-la because_o of_o the_o matter_n they_o treat_v of_o but_o virtute_fw-la muneris_fw-la by_o virtue_n of_o their_o office_n he_o that_o hear_v you_o hear_v i_o and_o he_o that_o despise_v you_o despise_v i_o luke_n 10._o 16._o and_o therefore_o as_o the_o jew_n and_o heathen_n be_v bind_v to_o hear_v christ_n not_o only_o in_o regard_n of_o his_o message_n which_o he_o bring_v but_o also_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o office_n as_o he_o be_v the_o mediator_n and_o the_o great_a prophet_n in_o the_o church_n deut._n 18_o 15_o 19_o so_o also_o it_o be_v with_o minister_n who_o act_n as_o in_o christ_n stead_n they_o be_v to_o be_v hear_v even_o by_o heathen_n for_o their_o office_n sake_n as_o well_o as_o for_o their_o doctrine_n and_o those_o jew_n or_o heathen_n which_o disobey_v the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o apostle_n be_v not_o only_o charge_v with_o the_o guilt_n of_o reject_v the_o truth_n but_o also_o of_o contemn_v the_o person_n and_o office_n of_o the_o apostle_n which_o can_v not_o have_v be_v if_o the_o apostle_n have_v not_o preach_v as_o officer_n to_o such_o and_o sure_o it_o must_v needs_o be_v repute_v strange_a doctrine_n to_o say_v that_o a_o minister_n yea_o a_o apostle_n preach_v to_o heathen_n do_v preach_v no_o more_o authoritative_o than_o any_o woman_n or_o child_n that_o be_v occasional_o discourse_v to_o such_o of_o the_o thing_n of_o god_n the_o apostle_n may_v challenge_v maintenance_n of_o those_o heathen_n to_o who_o they_o preach_v mat._n 10._o 10._o 1_o cor_fw-la 9_o which_o such_o woman_n and_o child_n can_v not_o pretend_v to_o which_o clear_o demonstrate_v that_o the_o apostle_n preach_v not_o as_o gift_v person_n but_o as_o officer_n to_o they_o the_o apostle_n preach_v to_o such_o have_v a_o power_n authoritative_o to_o pronounce_v pardon_n or_o to_o denounce_v wrath_n to_o they_o upon_o their_o believe_v or_o disobey_v which_o be_v the_o two_o act_n of_o the_o key_n and_o which_o to_o do_v require_v a_o office-relation_n to_o they_o if_o it_o be_v object_v that_o this_o may_v be_v true_a of_o the_o apostle_n that_o they_o be_v ambassador_n and_o preach_v as_o ambassador_n to_o heathen_n and_o yet_o not_o true_a of_o ordinary_a pastor_n i_o answer_v either_o ordinary_a minister_n be_v ambassador_n or_o else_o christ_n have_v not_o have_v any_o ambassador_n in_o the_o world_n since_o the_o day_n of_o the_o apostle_n but_o christ_n have_v have_v and_o have_v ambassador_n still_o in_o the_o world_n therefore_o minister_n be_v ordinary_a ambassador_n the_o major_n be_v plain_a for_o if_o only_a extraordinary_a officer_n be_v ambassador_n then_o where_o there_o be_v no_o such_o extraordinary_a officer_n there_o be_v no_o ambassador_n the_o minor_a also_o be_v no_o less_o clear_a that_o the_o office_n of_o gospel_n ambassador_n be_v a_o continue_a ordinance_n and_o it_o be_v most_o ridiculous_a to_o think_v that_o while_o the_o design_n and_o work_v of_o the_o ambassador_n last_v his_o office_n shall_v not_o continue_v and_o beside_o christ_n have_v perpetuate_v the_o office_n mat._n 28._o 19_o 20._o if_o it_o be_v say_v they_o be_v ambassador_n indeed_o but_o it_o be_v to_o their_o own_o people_n not_o to_o heathen_n i_o answer_v yes_o rather_o they_o be_v ambassador_n to_o heathen_n for_o as_o the_o great_a work_n of_o other_o ambassador_n be_v to_o make_v peace_n so_o also_o gospel-ambassador_n their_o great_a business_n be_v to_o beseech_v man_n to_o be_v reconcile_v to_o god_n and_o therefore_o their_o principal_a object_n be_v not_o the_o church_n who_o be_v already_o suppose_v to_o be_v reconcile_v but_o heathen_n and_o stranger_n who_o be_v yet_o unreconciled_a and_o see_v ordinary_a minister_n preach_v to_o heathen_n have_v a_o power_n 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for_o we_o only_o here_o be_v the_o difference_n wherein_o i_o be_o willing_a any_o indifferent_a man_n shall_v be_v umpire_n whether_o it_o be_v a_o precedent_n for_o the_o people_n ordain_v who_o though_o in_o thing_n belong_v to_o they_o they_o do_v act_v distinct_o from_o and_o concurrent_o with_o the_o apostle_n as_o in_o the_o business_n of_o election_n yet_o never_o do_v we_o find_v they_o ordain_v or_o join_v with_o the_o apostle_n in_o the_o work_n of_o ordination_n or_o whether_o it_o be_v not_o rather_o a_o precedent_n for_o minister_n ordain_v who_o be_v the_o undoubted_a successor_n of_o the_o apostel_n and_o who_o do_v act_n with_o they_o in_o such_o work_n 4._o and_o last_o for_o that_o 1_o tim._n 4._o 14._o how_o faint_o and_o impertinent_o do_v they_o speak_v what_o if_o you_o meet_v with_o nothing_o that_o convince_v you_o that_o this_o be_v a_o ordinary_a presbytery_n sure_o i_o be_o you_o meet_v with_o nothing_o that_o convince_v you_o they_o be_v extraordinary_a 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argument_n 2._o they_o argue_v thus_o those_o that_o may_v act_v in_o make_v decree_n in_o a_o synod_n they_o may_v ordain_v but_o believer_n who_o be_v not_o officer_n may_v act_v in_o a_o synod_n etc._n etc._n act_v 15._o 2_o 22_o 23._o i_o answer_v to_o both_o proposition_n 1._o the_o major_n may_v be_v question_v because_o all_o those_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v regulate_v by_o scripture_n now_o if_o we_o have_v scripture_n precept_n or_o example_n for_o the_o one_o i_o e._n for_o act_v in_o a_o synod_n which_o they_o say_v here_o be_v and_o not_o for_o the_o other_o which_o we_o have_v prove_v there_o be_v not_o than_o believer_n may_v do_v the_o one_o and_o not_o the_o other_o 2._o for_o the_o minor_a i_o deny_v that_o the_o brethren_n may_v act_v in_o make_v decree_n in_o a_o synod_n i_o deny_v they_o do_v so_o in_o this_o place_n we_o read_v not_o a_o word_n of_o it_o all_o that_o we_o read_v be_v that_o the_o whole_a church_n consent_v to_o the_o decree_n and_o resolve_v upon_o 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preach_v to_o if_o he_o preach_v to_o heathen_n such_o as_o will_v not_o receive_v iustruction_n yet_o they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v teach_v though_o they_o stumble_v at_o the_o word_n mat._n 13._o 54._o he_o i._n e._n jesus_n teach_v they_o and_o yet_o v_o 57_o they_o be_v offend_v at_o he_o but_o a_o man_n be_v not_o a_o teacher_n by_o office_n unto_o such_o heathen_n and_o the_o apostle_n according_a to_o they_o be_v no_o officer_n to_o heathen_n for_o they_o thus_o argue_v pag._n 18._o that_o such_o be_v no_o officer_n to_o people_n as_o can_v exercise_v church-government_n over_o they_o but_o say_v i_o the_o apostle_n can_v exercise_v church-government_n over_o heathen_n what_o have_v i_o to_o do_v to_o judge_v they_o that_o be_v without_o 1_o cor._n 5._o 12._o ergo._fw-la 2._o one_o that_o be_v real_o gift_v for_o preach_v for_o aught_o we_o know_v may_v lawful_o preach_v without_o approbation_n from_o a_o church_n or_o other_o p._n o._n 3._o it_o be_v the_o work_n of_o god_n and_o christ_n only_o to_o send_v preacher_n let_v it_o be_v prove_v wherever_o a_o presbytery_n be_v empower_v to_o send_v pag._n 126._o and_o the_o church_n be_v in_o no_o better_a case_n with_o they_o for_o they_o say_v the_o person_n send_v be_v christ_n neither_o a_o church_n nor_o a_o presbytery_n pag._n 125._o and_o afterward_o send_v be_v nothing_o else_o but_o christ_n command_v to_o go_v and_o preach_v not_o by_o a_o presbytery_n but_o by_o the_o word_n and_o how_o a_o presbytery_n can_v send_v but_o by_o exhort_v to_o follow_v the_o command_n of_o christ_n we_o know_v not_o and_o in_o such_o a_o doctrinal_a way_n for_o aught_o we_o see_v a_o private_a christian_a may_v exhort_v to_o go_v and_o teach_v pag._n 130._o so_o that_o now_o both_o presbytery_n and_o church_n be_v thrust_v out_o of_o office_n and_o every_o one_o that_o be_v apt_a to_o teach_v be_v command_v to_o preach_v though_o neither_o presbytery_n nor_o church_n send_v he_o and_o every_o private_a christian_a have_v as_o great_a a_o power_n to_o send_v minister_n as_o either_o church_n or_o presbytery_n which_o who_o can_v read_v without_o wonder_n 4._o if_o the_o major_a part_n of_o a_o congregation_n be_v wicked_a we_o suppose_v than_o it_o be_v no_o true_a church_n and_o if_o once_o it_o be_v a_o true_a church_n yet_o now_o it_o cease_v to_o be_v so_o or_o be_v unchurch_v pag._n 237._o 5._o they_o talk_v of_o pastor_n administer_a the_o sacrament_n not_o as_o pastor_n for_o thus_o they_o say_v if_o pastor_n preach_v and_o give_v the_o sacrament_n to_o their_o own_o flock_n they_o act_n as_o pastor_n but_o if_o they_o perform_v these_o act_n to_o any_o not_o of_o their_o own_o congregation_n they_o do_v it_o not_o as_o pastor_n pag._n 280._o then_o they_o do_v it_o as_o gifted-man_n for_o that_o be_v the_o other_o branch_n of_o the_o distinction_n he_o that_o preach_v to_o stranger_n not_o as_o a_o pastor_n preach_v as_o a_o gifted-brother_n that_o they_o grant_v and_o therefore_o he_o that_o 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