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A50249 A disputation concerning church-members and their children in answer to XXI questions wherein the state of such children when adult, together with their duty towards the church, and the churches duty towards them is discussed by an assembly of divines meeting at Boston in New England, June 4th, 1657 / now published by a lover of truth. Mather, Richard, 1596-1669. 1659 (1659) Wing M1271A; ESTC R3585 21,931 42

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all_o ordinance_n and_o full_a communion_n deut._n 29._o 12_o 14._o 2_o chron._n 15._o 12._o 2_o chron._n 34._o 31_o 32._o where_o it_o be_v mention_v as_o the_o performance_n of_o a_o duty_n whereto_o they_o stand_v oblige_v by_o the_o covenant_n make_v in_o their_o infancy_n propos._n 3._o be_v according_o call_v thereunto_o if_o after_o church-admonition_n and_o other_o due_a mean_n with_o patience_n use_v 7._o they_o shall_v refuse_v the_o performance_n of_o this_o great_a duty_n or_o in_o case_n they_o shall_v notwithstanding_o like_o mean_n apply_v any_o otherwise_o continue_v scandalous_a it_o be_v the_o part_n of_o the_o church_n to_o proceed_v with_o they_o to_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n because_o the_o fact_n mention_v deserve_v excommunication_n 2_o chron._n 15._o 13._o mat._n 18._o 17._o 2_o cor._n 5._o 11._o 2_o thes._n 3._o 6_o 14._o and_o the_o person_n be_v church-member_n be_v confederate_a with_o their_o parent_n and_o the_o church_n as_o the_o matter_n 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therefore_o admit_v not_o of_o magìs_fw-la and_o minùs_fw-la more_o or_o less_o member_n be_v better_a or_o worse_o and_o communion_n be_v more_o or_o less_o but_o membership_n admit_v not_o of_o degree_n benjamin_n a_o infant_n but_o of_o a_o hour_n old_a be_v as_o true_o a_o son_n as_o reuben_n a_o man_n of_o twenty_o two_o year_n of_o age_n the_o child_n be_v baptise_v by_o virtue_n of_o his_o own_o membership_n and_o not_o by_o virtue_n of_o his_o parent_n membership_n the_o parent_n death_n be_v not_o with_o we_o a_o obstacle_n of_o the_o child_n baptism_n propos._n 5._o the_o same_o may_v be_v say_v concerning_o the_o child_n of_o such_o person_n in_o question_n who_o be_v dead_a or_o necessary_o absent_a either_o do_v or_o do_v give_v the_o church_n cause_n in_o judgement_n of_o charity_n to_o look_v at_o they_o as_o thus_o qualify_v and_o such_o as_o have_v they_o be_v call_v thereunto_o will_v so_o act_v for_o in_o charity_n that_o be_v here_o do_v interpretative_o which_o 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because_o the_o foundation_n of_o the_o covenant_n membership_n of_o the_o child_n be_v divine_a institution_n which_o impute_v the_o covenant_n act_n only_o and_o not_o any_o other_o act_n of_o the_o parent_n to_o the_o child_n quest_n 13._o whether_o a_o member_n child_n unfitness_n for_o seal_n disable_v not_o his_o seed_n for_o membership_n or_o baptism_n ans._n this_o question_n agree_v in_o scope_n with_o quest_n 10._o we_o refer_v thither_o for_o answer_n thereunto_o quest_n 14._o whether_o a_o member_n child_n be_v censurable_a for_o any_o thing_n but_o scandalous_a action_n and_o not_o also_o for_o ignorance_n and_o inexperience_n ans._n a_o member_n child_n like_o as_o it_o be_v with_o all_o other_o member_n be_v censurable_a only_o for_o scandalous_a sin_n mat._n 18._o 15_o 18._o 1_o cor._n 5._o 11._o consequent_o for_o ignorance_n and_o inexperience_n when_o scandalous_a for_o all_o ignorance_n and_o inexperience_n though_o blameable_a be_v not_o scandalous_a rom._n 14._o 1._o heb_n 5._o 12._o luke_n 9_o 55._o quest_n 15._o whether_o a_o member_n child_n must_v only_o examine_v himself_o and_o may_v not_o be_v examine_v by_o other_o of_o his_o fitness_n for_o seal_n ans._n it_o be_v a_o duty_n of_o a_o member_n child_n to_o examine_v himself_o and_o yet_o he_o be_v also_o subject_a to_o the_o examination_n of_o other_o 1._o because_o the_o elder_n be_v to_o give_v a_o account_n which_o necessary_o presuppose_v that_o god_n have_v give_v they_o power_n in_o some_o respect_n to_o take_v a_o account_n heb._n 13._o 17._o act_n 8._o 37._o 2._o it_o pertain_v to_o they_o to_o see_v that_o the_o holy_a thing_n be_v not_o defile_v by_o the_o access_n of_o any_o unclean_a and_o unworthy_a person_n ezek._n 44._o 23._o mal._n 1._o 6_o 7_o 9_o and_o 2._o 1._o 3._o to_o teach_v by_o question_n and_o answer_v in_o the_o most_o profitable_a way_n for_o the_o instruction_n and_o edification_n of_o the_o young_a sort_n and_o be_v commend_v occasional_o to_o the_o practice_n of_o the_o church_n gal._n 6._o 6._o quest_n 16._o whether_o only_a officer_n must_v examine_v in_o private_a or_o else_o public_a before_o the_o church_n ans._n concerning_o their_o examination_n by_o the_o elder_n in_o private_a the_o former_a reason_n conclude_v affirmative_o whereunto_o may_v be_v add_v occasional_o that_o james_n and_o the_o elder_n contrive_v and_o prepare_v in_o private_a for_o the_o more_o orderly_o and_o quiet_a transaction_n of_o thing_n in_o public_a act_n 21._o 22_o 23._o it_o be_v spiritual_a wisdom_n by_o prepare_v the_o stone_n beforehand_o to_o prevent_v after_o noise_n in_o the_o building_n 1_o kin._n 7._o 6._o public_a examination_n we_o also_o conceive_v to_o be_v regular_a edification_n or_o due_a satisfaction_n of_o the_o church_n call_v thereunto_o yet_o always_o orderly_o that_o be_v by_o approbation_n of_o the_o presbytery_n and_o the_o immediate_a proposal_n of_o the_o question_n by_o they_o to_o the_o examinate_n rev._n 2._o 2._o 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impenitency_n tit._n 1._o 16._o iam._n 2._o 18_o 26._o a_o ingenuous_a and_o solemn_a profession_n of_o repentance_n nothing_o appear_v to_o the_o contrary_a be_v to_o be_v accept_v as_o true_a repentance_n in_o the_o judgement_n of_o charity_n luk._n 17._o 3._o 1_o cor._n 13._o 7._o quest_n 21._o whether_o a_o member_n under_o offence_n and_o not_o censure_v or_o not_o with_o the_o high_a censure_n can_v authoritative_o be_v deny_v the_o lord_n supper_n or_o other_o church-privilege_n ans._n 1._o none_o but_o the_o church_n can_v authoritative_o deny_v to_o the_o member_n his_o access_n unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n because_o the_o power_n thereof_o be_v only_o delegate_a to_o that_o subject_n mat._n 18._o 17._o 2._o the_o church_n can_v deny_v unto_o a_o member_n his_o access_n unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n until_o she_o have_v regular_o judge_v he_o to_o be_v a_o offender_n 3._o the_o censure_n of_o admonition_n be_v the_o first_o act_n whereby_o a_o church_n do_v judicial_o declare_v a_o member_n to_o be_v a_o offender_n therefore_o till_o the_o censure_n of_o admonition_n be_v past_a a_o member_n can_v authoritative_o be_v deny_v communion_n in_o the_o lord_n supper_n or_o other_o church-privilege_n because_o of_o offence_n 4._o after_o the_o sentence_n of_o admonition_n be_v past_a the_o offender_n now_o admonish_v may_v be_v yea_o thereby_o be_v authoritative_o deny_v to_o come_v unto_o the_o lord_n supper_n and_o to_o vote_n in_o the_o church_n because_o he_o be_v judicial_o unclean_a lev._n 22._o 3_o 4._o and_o 7._o 20_o 21._o mat._n 5._o 23_o 24._o though_o he_o be_v not_o yet_o censure_v with_o the_o censure_n of_o excommunication_n 5._o all_o which_o notwithstanding_o there_o be_v case_n wherein_o a_o brother_n apparent_o discern_v to_o be_v in_o a_o condition_n render_v he_o shall_v he_o so_o proceed_v to_o the_o lord_n supper_n a_o unworthy_a communicant_n may_v and_o ought_v regular_o to_o be_v advise_v to_o forbear_v and_o it_o be_v his_o duty_n to_o harken_v thereunto_o 6._o yet_o two_o thing_n be_v here_o careful_o to_o be_v attend_v 1._o that_o brethren_n be_v not_o many_o master_n take_v upon_o they_o to_o advise_v and_o to_o admonish_v other_o to_o abstain_v without_o cause_n or_o before_o the_o time_n iam._n 3._o 1._o 2._o that_o none_o forbear_v to_o come_v worthy_o which_o be_v their_o duty_n because_o to_o their_o private_a apprehension_n another_o be_v suppose_v at_o least_o to_o come_v unworthy_o which_o be_v their_o sin_n 7._o in_o case_n the_o church_n shall_v see_v cause_n to_o advise_v a_o member_n to_o forbear_v and_o he_o shall_v refuse_v to_o harken_v thereunto_o his_o refusal_n be_v also_o a_o violation_n of_o church_n order_n add_v contumacy_n to_o his_o offence_n and_o thereby_o ripen_v the_o offender_n for_o censure_n 19_o four_o 1657._o boston_n n._n e._n errata_fw-la pag._n 5._o l._n 1._o read_v act._n 15._o 10._o p._n 6._o l._n 23._o r._n act._n 2._o 47._o p._n 14._o l._n 7._o r._n 2_o cor._n 2._o 6._o l._n 26._o r._n act._n 9_o 19_o p._n 18._o l._n 5._o for_o reason_n r._n season_n p._n 23._o l._n 30._o for_o church-act_n r._n covenant-act_n p._n 24._o l._n 19_o 20._o r._n will_v have_v so_o p._n 26._o l._n 20._o for_o in_o r._n be_v see_v the_o platform_n of_o church_n discipline_n cap_n 12._o §._o 7._o see_v the_o platform_n of_o discipline_n cap._n 12._o §._o 7._o
will_v have_v reduce_v under_o the_o yoke_n of_o circumcision_n they_o be_v some_o of_o those_o who_o the_o apostle_n account_v disciple_n or_o who_o the_o apostle_n have_v disciple_v but_o some_o child_n be_v some_o of_o those_o who_o the_o false_a teacher_n will_v have_v reduce_v under_o the_o yoke_n of_o circumcision_n for_o they_o will_v have_v have_v both_o gentile_a parent_n and_o child_n circumcise_v after_o the_o manner_n of_o moses_n v._n 1_o 5._o with_o exod._n 12._o 48_o 49._o and_o act_n 21._o 21._o and_o that_o the_o apostle_n take_v in_o child_n with_o parent_n when_o they_o be_v conversant_a in_o the_o work_n of_o disciple_a further_o appear_v from_o act_n 2._o 39_o and_o 16._o 15_o 31_o 33._o 1_o cor._n 7._o 14._o 2._o some_o child_n be_v under_o the_o promise_a teach_v of_o god_n isa._n 54._o 13._o and_o the_o word_n there_o use_v be_v render_v disciple_n isa_n 8._o 16._o 3._o some_o child_n do_v visible_o belong_v to_o christ_n mark_n 10._o 14._o iosh._n 22._o 24_o 25._o therefore_o be_v disciple_n compare_v mat._n 10._o 42._o with_o mark_n 9_o 41._o 4._o when_o christ_n say_v disciple_n all_o nation_n he_o bid_v gather_v the_o gentile_n into_o like_o covenant_n and_o church-estate_n for_o the_o substance_n thereof_o which_o have_v be_v the_o portion_n of_o the_o jew_n therefore_o he_o bid_v disciple_n some_o child_n arg._n 6._o they_o that_o be_v subject_n of_o the_o lord_n visible_a spiritual_a kingdom_n servant_n and_o child_n of_o the_o lord_n family_n they_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n which_o be_v call_v the_o lord_n kingdom_n and_o house_n and_o family_n in_o the_o scripture_n but_o so_o be_v some_o child_n ezek._n 37._o 25_o 26_o 27._o it_o be_v david_n i_o e._n christ_n spiritual-gospel-kingdom_n that_o he_o there_o speak_v of_o and_o that_o in_o reference_n unto_o visible_a sanctuary_n or_o church-estate_n that_o some_o child_n be_v the_o lord_n servant_n see_v lev._n 25._o 39_o 41_o 42._o and_o that_o not_o by_o common_a right_n of_o creation_n only_o or_o designment_n unto_o some_o particular_a service_n but_o of_o special_a redemption_n and_o conservation_n there_o speak_v of_o and_o sure_o both_o child_n capacity_n so_o to_o be_v and_o the_o lord_n grace_n and_o favour_n so_o to_o accept_v they_o be_v not_o great_a then_o than_o now_o that_o they_o be_v child_n son_n and_o daughter_n of_o god_n see_v rom._n 9_o 4_o 26._o gen._n 6._o 2._o ezek._n 16._o 20_o 21._o and_o 23._o 37._o and_o how_o be_v these_o child_n the_o lord_n child_n proper_o and_o mere_o upon_o the_o account_n of_o internal_a and_o spiritual_a regeneration_n for_o that_o be_v not_o find_v in_o many_o of_o the_o child_n speak_v of_o in_o the_o place_n mention_v nor_o yet_o only_o by_o creation_n for_o so_o other_o be_v god_n child_n as_o well_o as_o the_o child_n of_o the_o jew_n and_o so_o the_o daughter_n of_o man_n be_v his_o daughter_n as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o be_v his_o son_n gen._n 6._o 2._o therefore_o they_o be_v say_v to_o be_v god_n child_n because_o of_o their_o covenant_n and_o church_n relation_n unto_o he_o which_o be_v common_a to_o all_o the_o child_n of_o the_o church_n and_o to_o none_o other_o and_o so_o ezek._n 16_o 8._o show_n be_v compare_v with_o verse_n 20_o 21._o arg._n 7._o if_o no_o child_n be_v member_n of_o the_o visible_a church_n than_o we_o have_v no_o well-grounded_a hope_n according_a to_o ordinary_a course_n of_o dispensation_n of_o the_o salvation_n of_o any_o die_a infant_n and_o the_o reason_n be_v because_o salvation_n pertain_v to_o the_o church_n isa._n 45._o 17._o eph._n 2._o 12._o and_o 5._o 23_o 26._o ioh._n 4._o 22._o act._n 2._o 27._o luke_n 19_o 9_o those_o that_o be_v without_o the_o visible_a kingdom_n of_o god_n be_v visible_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o satan_n for_o he_o be_v the_o god_n of_o the_o world_n 2_o cor._n 4._o 4._o and_o to_o he_o be_v man_n deliver_v when_o they_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o church_n 1_o cor._n 5._o 5._o 1_o tim._n 1._o 20._o so_o if_o child_n live_v and_o die_v out_o of_o the_o visible_a church_n they_o live_v and_o die_v out_o of_o god_n visible_a kingdom_n and_o visible_o in_o the_o kingdom_n of_o satan_n and_o then_o what_o visible_a ground_n of_o hope_n according_a to_o ordinary_a course_n of_o their_o salvation_n but_o to_o account_v the_o estate_n of_o all_o that_o die_v child_n so_o hopeless_a and_o forlorn_a be_v contrary_a to_o the_o tender_a and_o rich_a mercy_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o scripture_n and_o to_o godly_a parent_n most_o uncomfortable_a arg._n 8._o if_o some_o child_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o the_o old_a testament_n than_o some_o child_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o god_n in_o the_o day_n of_o the_o new_a testament_n but_o some_o child_n be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n in_o the_o time_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n which_o though_o a_o truth_n that_o we_o know_v not_o how_o any_o can_v deny_v yet_o we_o may_v brief_o evince_v and_o confirm_v thus_o that_o child_n than_o be_v in_o covenant_n be_v express_o witness_v gen._n 17._o 7._o deut._n 29._o 11_o 12_o 15._o and_o that_o they_o be_v in_o such_o a_o covenant_n or_o so_o in_o covenant_n as_o to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n that_o then_o be_v appear_v because_o 1._o they_o be_v in_o the_o same_o covenant_n that_o their_o parent_n or_o elder_a person_n be_v in_o and_o whereby_o they_o be_v constitute_v member_n of_o the_o church_n gen._n 17._o 7._o deut._n 29._o 10_o 11_o 12_o 14_o 15._o and_o 27._o 9_o and_o 26._o 18._o ier._n 23._o 11._o act_n 7._o 38._o 2._o they_o be_v subject_n of_o a_o church-ordinance_n never_o regular_o apply_v to_o any_o out_o of_o the_o church_n viz._n circumcision_n rom._n 3._o 1_o 2._o they_o be_v israelite_n i_o e._n in_o other_o word_n member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o israel_n to_o who_o pertain_v church_n privilege_n rom_n 9_o 4._o they_o be_v child_n of_o the_o kingdom_n and_o such_o as_o be_v capable_a of_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o church_n estate_n therefore_o in_o it_o mat._n 8._o 12._o rom._n 11._o 20._o ier._n 7._o 15._o 2_o king_n 17._o 20._o 5._o they_o be_v visible_o the_o lord_n people_n by_o covenant_n even_o as_o the_o rest_n of_o the_o people_n be_v the_o lord_n people_n ezek._n 16._o 8_o 20_o 21._o 6._o they_o be_v child_n of_o the_o house_n of_o israel_n as_o oppose_v to_o dog_n i_o e._n person_n out_o of_o the_o church_n mat._n 15._o 24_o 26._o in_o a_o word_n as_o oft_o as_o they_o be_v say_v or_o imply_v to_o be_v a_o part_n of_o the_o holy_a seed_n of_o the_o holy_a people_n of_o the_o lord_n people_n of_o israel_n of_o the_o circumcision_n of_o those_o who_o god_n redeem_v out_o of_o the_o land_n of_o egypt_n to_o make_v they_o his_o peculiar_a treasure_n of_o the_o inheritance_n and_o congregati_fw-la of_o the_o lord_n etc._n etc._n so_o often_o be_v they_o show_v to_o be_v member_n of_o the_o church_n but_o all_o the_o question_n will_v be_v about_o the_o consequence_n of_o the_o proposition_n and_o that_o may_v be_v clear_v thus_o 1._o if_o the_o church_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n and_o the_o church_n of_o the_o gentile_n under_o the_o new_a testament_n be_v for_o kind_n essential_o the_o same_o then_o if_o child_n be_v member_n of_o that_o church_n they_o be_v also_o member_n of_o these_o for_o if_o they_o be_v the_o same_o essential_o and_o the_o same_o for_o kind_n than_o they_o have_v the_o same_o covenant_n or_o general_n from_o therefore_o that_o covenant_n which_o take_v in_o the_o seed_n or_o child_n gen._n 17._o 7._o therefore_o the_o seed_n or_o child_n be_v in_o and_o of_o the_o one_o church_n as_o well_o as_o the_o other_o but_o that_o the_o church_n state_n then_o and_o now_o be_v and_o be_v essential_o the_o same_o be_v evident_a because_o it_o be_v the_o same_o kingdom_n of_o god_n and_o not_o another_o which_o be_v take_v from_o they_o and_o give_v to_o we_o mat._n 21._o 43._o and_o 8._o 11_o 12._o one_o and_o the_o same_o sheepfold_n for_o kind_n under_o one_o and_o the_o same_o shepherd_n in_o which_o be_v the_o jew_n first_o and_o the_o gentile_n afterwards_o john_n 10._o 16._o the_o gentile_n be_v fellow_n heir_n with_o the_o jew_n of_o the_o same_o body_n and_o partaker_n of_o the_o same_o promise_n eph._n 3_o 6._o we_o be_v in_o the_o same_o root_n and_o olive_n from_o which_o some_o of_o they_o be_v break_v off_o in_o which_o the_o godly_a jew_n not_o break_v off_o do_v still_o continue_v and_o into_o which_o the_o rest_n shall_v be_v graft_v in_o again_o in_o time_n rom._n 11._o 17_o 18_o 24._o the_o conversion_n of_o the_o gentile_n be_v express_v in_o such_o
parent_n and_o be_v member_n with_o they_o doubt_v 29._o 14_o 15._o 3._o child_n bear_v before_o their_o parent_n covenant_v yet_o if_o in_o their_o minority_n when_o their_o parent_n enter_v into_o covenant_n do_v covenant_n with_o they_o and_o be_v church-member_n gen._n 17._o 25._o the_o whole_a household_n of_o lydia_n the_o jailor_n and_o other_o be_v baptise_v therefore_o some_o child_n in_o minority_n which_o be_v bear_v before_o except_o we_o shall_v deny_v so_o much_o as_o one_o child_n in_o minority_n then_o alive_a in_o all_o those_o house_n 4._o there_o be_v no_o sufficient_a reason_n at_o least_o ordinary_o to_o conclude_v a_o child_n of_o seven_o ten_o or_o twelve_o year_n old_a to_o be_v incorrigible_a because_o a_o child_n at_o the_o age_n mention_v be_v infans_fw-la in_fw-la foro_fw-la ecclesie_fw-la i_o e._n he_o have_v no_o voice_n nor_o be_v capable_a of_o be_v hear_v in_o a_o church_n way_n therefore_o not_o incorrigible_a as_o to_o the_o church_n their_o obstinacy_n at_o the_o year_n mention_v be_v not_o capital_a by_o god_n law_n deut._n 21._o 18._o there_o be_v still_o place_n for_o hope_n prov._n 19_o 18._o and_o 22._o 15._o 5._o their_o desire_v or_o not_o desire_v in_o their_o own_o person_n during_o the_o age_n forementioned_a be_v not_o to_o be_v attend_v as_o the_o ground_n of_o proceed_v in_o this_o case_n because_o the_o ground_n thereof_o be_v the_o covenant_n found_v upon_o divine_a institution_n and_o in-depending_o upon_o such_o child_n desire_n quest_n 3._o till_o what_o age_n shall_v they_o enter_v into_o covenant_n with_o their_o parent_n whether_o sixteen_o twenty_o one_o or_o sixty_o ans._n as_o long_o as_o in_o respect_n of_o age_n or_o capacity_n they_o can_v according_a to_o ordinary_a account_n be_v suppose_v able_a to_o act_v in_o a_o matter_n of_o this_o nature_n for_o themselves_o so_o long_o they_o shall_v enter_v in_o by_o mean_n of_o their_o parent_n covenant_n because_o whilst_o they_o be_v child_n and_o in_o their_o minority_n they_o be_v not_o otherwise_o capable_a of_o covenant_v when_o adult_a they_o be_v to_o covenant_n in_o their_o own_o person_n if_o a_o precise_a and_o certain_a age_n may_v here_o be_v prescribe_v sure_o it_o be_v safe_a to_o go_v at_o least_o so_o far_o as_o may_v answer_v the_o example_n gen._n 17._o 25._o where_o ishmael_n be_v admit_v to_o the_o seal_n by_o his_o father_n covenant_n at_o thirteen_o year_n of_o age_n howbeit_o the_o bound_n of_o adult_a and_o in-adult_a age_n depend_v upon_o the_o judgement_n of_o prudence_n much_o be_v to_o be_v leave_v unto_o the_o discretion_n of_o officer_n and_o church_n in_o this_o case_n quest_n 4._o what_o discipline_n a_o child_n be_v subject_a to_o from_o seven_o to_o sixteen_o year_n old_a ans_n 1._o church_n discipline_n be_v take_v either_o more_o large_o for_o the_o act_n of_o a_o church-member_n dispense_v to_o a_o church-member_n as_o such_o by_o way_n of_o spiritual_a watch_n rebuke_n etc._n etc._n luke_n 17._o 3_o 4._o mat._n 18._o 15._o or_o more_o strict_o for_o the_o act_n of_o the_o whole_a church_n dispense_v by_o a_o member_n thereof_o as_o in_o case_n of_o public_a rebuke_n admonition_n excommunication_n mat._n 18._o 17._o 2_o cor._n 2._o 3._o 1_o tim._n 1._o 20._o in_o the_o first_o sense_n child_n in_o their_o minority_n be_v subject_a to_o church_n discipline_n immediate_o but_o not_o in_o the_o second_o 2._o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o the_o elder_n and_o church_n to_o call_v upon_o parent_n to_o bring_v up_o their_o child_n in_o the_o narture_n and_o admonition_n of_o the_o lord_n and_o to_o see_v as_o much_o as_o in_o they_o lie_v that_o it_o be_v effectual_o do_v eph._n 6._o 4._o officer_n and_o church_n respective_o succeed_v apostle_n in_o matter_n of_o ordinary_a practice_n 3._o beside_o their_o subjection_n to_o ecclesiastical_a discipline_n they_o be_v also_o subject_a to_o civil_a discipline_n respective_o according_a to_o their_o capacity_n whether_o domestical_a scholastical_a or_o magistratical_a quest_n 5._o whether_o a_o father_n may_v twice_o covenant_n for_o his_o child_n in_o minority_n in_o several_a church_n ans._n 1._o when_o a_o parent_n be_v call_v to_o remove_v from_o one_o church_n to_o another_o he_o be_v also_o call_v to_o enter_v into_o covenant_n in_o that_o church_n to_o which_o he_o remove_v paul_n be_v first_o baptise_v and_o in_o communion_n at_o damascus_n act._n 9_o 29._o afterwards_o remove_v unto_o jerusalem_n and_o join_v to_o the_o church_n there_o v._n 26._o this_o the_o very_a nature_n of_o order_n call_v for_o because_o otherwise_o he_o can_v neither_o do_v all_o the_o duty_n nor_o enjoy_v all_o the_o privilege_n of_o a_o member_n in_o the_o one_o church_n or_o in_o the_o other_o not_o in_o the_o former_a because_o now_o he_o dwell_v not_o with_o they_o nor_o in_o the_o other_o because_o though_o dwell_v among_o they_o he_o join_v not_o with_o they_o in_o covenant_n 2._o when_o the_o parent_n thus_o remove_v enter_v into_o covenant_n his_o child_n then_o in_o minority_n covenant_n in_o he_o the_o child_n and_o the_o power_n of_o government_n over_o the_o child_n must_v go_v together_o prov._n 29._o 15._o 3._o hence_o it_o be_v the_o duty_n of_o church_n when_o they_o give_v letter_n dimissory_n unto_o parent_n to_o insert_v the_o dismission_n of_o the_o child_n then_o in_o minority_n with_o they_o 4._o adult_a child_n yet_o under_o the_o power_n of_o the_o parent_n and_o remove_n with_o they_o be_v to_o give_v their_o personal_a consent_n unto_o this_o translation_n of_o their_o membership_n and_o so_o to_o be_v orderly_o dismiss_v and_o receive_v with_o their_o parent_n otherwise_o they_o remain_v member_n of_o the_o church_n of_o which_o they_o be_v before_o quest_n 6._o whether_o the_o end_n of_o a_o deputy_n covenant_n be_v not_o to_o supply_v personal_a incapacity_n or_o whether_o child_n ripe_a for_o personal_a covenant_n in_o regard_n of_o age_n shall_v covenant_n by_o a_o deputy_n 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