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A26943 Mr. Baxter's judgment and reasons against communicating with the parish-assemblies, as by law required, impartially stated and proposed Baxter, Richard, 1615-1691. 1684 (1684) Wing B1289; ESTC R14325 19,788 40

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church_n unhapy_o of_o late_o reject_v all_o that_o own_o not_o the_o antiquity_n of_o the_o hebrew_n point_v i_o can_v have_v local_a communion_n with_o that_o church_n say_v he_o for_o they_o will_v not_o receive_v i_o unless_o i_o subscribe_v either_o a_o falsehood_n or_o that_o which_o i_o judge_v false_a but_o yet_o i_o high_o honour_n and_o love_v they_o and_o have_v mental_a catholic_n communion_n with_o they_o when_o perhaps_o necessity_n make_v i_o join_v with_o a_o church_n of_o far_o worse_a man_n and_o order_n that_o will_v impose_v no_o sin_n on_o i_o mr._n baxter_n schism_n detect_v pag._n 56._o in_o pursuance_n of_o this_o principle_n mr._n baxter_n lay_v down_o his_o brethren_n separate_v from_o the_o church_n of_o england_n for_o there_o be_v several_a thing_n which_o they_o judge_v unsound_a that_o be_v make_v necessary_a to_o their_o communion_n with_o they_o by_o cannon_n 27._o no_o minister_n when_o he_o celebrate_v the_o communion_n shall_v witting_o administer_v the_o same_o to_o any_o but_o such_o as_o kneel_v under_o pain_n of_o suspension_n nor_o under_o the_o like_a pain_n to_o any_o that_o refuse_v to_o be_v present_a at_o public_a prayer_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n that_o it_o be_v according_a to_o the_o 18_o the_o canon_n the_o communion_n must_v not_o be_v administer_v to_o he_o that_o will_v cover_v his_o head_n in_o the_o church_n or_o chappel_n in_o time_n of_o divine_a service_n or_o that_o do_v not_o reverent_o kneel_v when_o the_o general_a confession_n lettany_n and_o other_o prayer_n be_v read_v and_o shall_v not_o stand_v up_o at_o the_o say_n of_o the_o belief_n or_o refuse_v to_o make_v due_a and_o lowly_a reverence_n when_o the_o name_n of_o the_o lord_n jesus_n shall_v be_v mention_v in_o time_n of_o divine_a service_n or_o refuse_v to_o say_v in_o due_a place_n and_o audible_o with_o the_o minister_n the_o confession_n the_o lord_n prayer_n and_o the_o creed_n or_o not_o make_v such_o other_o answer_n to_o the_o public_a prayer_n as_o be_v appoint_v in_o the_o book_n of_o common-prayer_n whoever_o refuse_v these_o thing_n he_o be_v one_o who_o though_o present_v at_o the_o public_a prayer_n yet_o not_o according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n be_v not_o to_o be_v admit_v to_o the_o communion_n that_o be_v all_o those_o thing_n be_v make_v necessary_a to_o the_o communion_n and_o here_o it_o must_v be_v observe_v that_o though_o the_o admit_v notorious_a offender_n to_o the_o comunion_n be_v forbid_v by_o the_o 26_o the_o canon_n yet_o not_o under_o the_o penalty_n of_o suspension_n as_o it_o be_v in_o this_o case_n of_o admit_v those_o who_o refuse_v to_o kneel_v or_o to_o be_v present_a at_o the_o public_a prayer_n according_a to_o the_o order_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n but_o these_o thing_n several_a dissenter_n for_o great_a reason_n refuse_v to_o do_v i_o will_v at_o this_o time_n only_o insist_v on_o the_o ceremony_n of_o kneel_v at_o the_o sacrament_n and_o give_v the_o reason_n of_o some_o learned_a man_n against_o it_o one_a let_v we_o hear_v mr._n baxter_n in_o his_o five_o disput_n p._n 410_o 411._o as_o for_o kneel_v at_o the_o sacrament_n i_o doubt_v not_o at_o all_o but_o the_o impose_v it_o and_o that_o on_o such_o rigorous_a term_n tie_v all_o to_o it_o and_o ea_v all_o out_o of_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o church_n or_o from_o the_o participation_n of_o the_o sacrament_n that_o dare_v not_o use_v it_o be_v a_o very_a grievous_a sin_n and_o tend_v to_o persecution_n and_o injustice_n and_o church_n divide_v it_o be_v certain_o in_o a_o doubtful_a case_n the_o safe_a way_n to_o do_v as_o christ_n and_o his_o apostle_n and_o the_o universal_a church_n do_v for_o many_o hundred_o year_n either_o the_o gesture_n be_v indifferent_a in_o itself_o or_o not_o if_o it_o be_v how_o dare_v they_o thus_o divide_v the_o church_n by_o it_o and_o cast_v out_o christian_n that_o scruple_n it_o when_o they_o have_v these_o and_o many_o other_o reason_n of_o their_o scruple_n which_o for_o brevity_n sake_n i_o omit_v if_o they_o say_v that_o kneel_v be_v of_o itself_o necessary_a and_o not_o indifferent_a because_o it_o be_v reverent_a now_o if_o the_o reader_n consider_v the_o rubric_n add_v in_o the_o new_a common-prayer-book_n he_o will_v find_v that_o kneel_v be_v enjoin_v for_o a_o signification_n of_o our_o humble_a and_o grateful_a acknowledgement_n of_o the_o benefit_n of_o christ_n therein_o receive_v and_o for_o avoid_v such_o profanation_n and_o disorder_n in_o the_o holy_a communion_n as_o may_v otherwise_o ensue_v thus_o we_o see_v the_o gesture_n of_o kneel_v be_v make_v a_o reverent_a gesture_n necessary_a to_o avoid_v disorder_n and_o profanation_n but_o say_v mr._n baxter_n if_o kneel_v be_v of_o itself_o necessary_a and_o not_o indifferent_a because_o it_o be_v reverent_a then_o 1_o st_z they_o make_v christ_n a_o imperfect_a lawgiver_n 2_o dly_z they_o make_v himself_o or_o his_o apostle_n or_o both_o to_o have_v be_v sinner_n 3_o dly_z they_o condemn_v the_o catholic_n church_n of_o sin_n 4_o thly_a they_o condemn_v the_o canon_n of_o the_o chief_a general_n council_n all_o which_o be_v consequent_n that_o i_o suppose_v they_o will_v disow_v what_o a_o perverse_a preposterous_a reverence_n be_v this_o when_o they_o have_v leave_v to_o lie_v in_o the_o dust_n before_o and_o after_o the_o very_a act_n of_o receive_v through_o all_o their_o confession_n and_o prayer_n yet_o they_o will_v at_o other_o time_n stand_v and_o many_o of_o they_o sit_v at_o prayer_n and_o sit_v at_o sing_v psalm_n of_o prayer_n and_o praise_n to_o god_n and_o yet_o when_o christ_n do_v invite_v they_o to_o a_o feast_n they_o dare_v not_o imitate_v his_o apostle_n and_o universal_a church_n in_o their_o gesture_n lest_o they_o shall_v be_v sinful_o irreverent_a so_o sar_n mr._n baxter_n now_o though_o mr._n baxter_n be_v accurate_a in_o distinguish_v and_o as_o to_o the_o part_n of_o the_o receiver_n may_v yet_o see_v how_o to_o answer_v all_o these_o argument_n and_o satisfy_v himself_o in_o kneel_v yet_o he_o can_v but_o believe_v that_o godly_a and_o judicious_a man_n may_v be_v so_o far_o under_o the_o powerful_a conviction_n of_o such_o argument_n against_o the_o imposition_n as_o to_o be_v unable_a to_o satisfy_v their_o conscience_n in_o comply_v with_o the_o gesture_n of_o kneel_v sure_o mr._n baxter_n tell_v the_o world_n so_o much_o in_o his_o first_o nonconformist_n plea_n for_o peace_n p._n 150_o 151_o 152._o some_o nonconformist_n say_v he_o lay_v and_o clergy_n judge_n kneel_v as_o thing_n now_o stand_v unlawful_a their_o reason_n be_v 1._o in_o doubtful_a case_n duty_n lie_v on_o the_o sure_a side_n but_o this_o to_o they_o be_v a_o doubtful_a case_n on_o one_o side_n and_o to_o imitate_v christ_n institution_n by_o such_o sit_v as_o man_n use_v to_o do_v at_o meat_n be_v certain_o lawful_a 2._o because_o they_o think_v kneel_v violate_v the_o 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