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A42657 Siniorragia the sifters sieve broken, or a reply to Doctor Boughen's sifting my case of conscience touching the Kings coronation oath : wherein is cleared that bishops are not jure divino, that their sole government without the help of presbyters is an ursurpation and an innovation, that the Kings oath at coronation is not to be extended to preserve bishops, with the ruine of himself and kingdome / by John Geree. Geree, John, 1601?-1649. 1648 (1648) Wing G599; ESTC R26434 102,019 146

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perp_v govern_v chap._n 7._o pag._n 106_o 107._o thesis_n 7._o that_o these_o pastor_n eph._n 4.11_o that_o be_v the_o high_a ordinary_a officer_n be_v successor_n to_o the_o apostle_n in_o all_o that_o power_n and_o authority_n and_o all_o those_o act_n flow_v from_o it_o which_o be_v necessary_a perpetual_a and_o ordinary_a in_o the_o church_n of_o god_n this_o also_o be_v clear_a power_n and_o authority_n require_v a_o subject_n divine_a power_n and_o authority_n a_o subject_n of_o divine_a institution_n now_o no_o other_o remain_v of_o those_o of_o god_n institution_n but_o pastor_n and_o teacher_n which_o if_o they_o be_v not_o the_o same_o pastor_n be_v the_o chief_a the_o other_o as_o temporary_a be_v cease_v therefore_o pastor_n must_v be_v their_o successor_n in_o all_o this_o power_n and_o in_o they_o must_v the_o command_n for_o execution_n be_v keep_v without_o spot_n or_o unrebukable_a until_o the_o appear_a of_o our_o lord_n jesus_n christ_n 1_o tim._n 6.14_o and_o to_o 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